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The Real Reason Bank of America Halts Foreclosure In 50 States – They’re Broke!
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by Doug Eberhardt
Bank of America came out today and announced they are halting foreclosure in 50 states because of potential flaws in foreclosure documents. But its not just Bank of America that is halting foreclosures. More and more banks are joining the list to halt any foreclosure action, including JPMorgan Chase.
Also Friday, PNC Financial Services Group Inc. said it is halting most foreclosures and evictions in 23 states for a month so it can review whether documents it submitted to courts complied with state laws. An official at the Pittsburgh-based bank confirmed the decision on Friday, which was reported earlier by the New York Times. The official requested anonymity because the decision hasn’t been publicly announced.
PNC becomes the fourth major U.S. lender to halt some foreclosures amid evidence that mortgage company employees or their lawyers signed documents in foreclosure cases without verifying the information in them.
In addition to PNC and Bank of America, Ally Financial’s GMAC Mortgage unit and JPMorgan Chase & Co. have announced similar moves in the past two weeks.
This means two of the largest banks in the United States are no longer foreclosing on homes.
Most people reading this news will think the real reason these banks are halting foreclosures is because of the “growing evidence that mortgage company employees or their lawyers signed documents in foreclosure cases without verifying the information in them.”
In fact the article quoted above goes on to say;
A document obtained last week by the Associated Press showed a Bank of America official acknowledging in a legal proceeding that she signed thousands of foreclosure documents a month and typically didn’t read them. The official, Renee Hertzler, said in a February deposition that she signed 7,000 to 8,000 foreclosure documents a month.
Did it slip by the average reader of this article that Bank of America was foreclosing 7,000 to 8,000 house a month? Anyone see a problem here? This should be the real story. And that’s just one bank.
But Wait, Isn’t the Recession Over?
Foreclosures were already hitting record highs in the third quarter of 2009. If foreclosures were hitting record highs in July, August and September of 2009, how is it the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) said the recession ended in June of 2009? I guess the NBER just ignores the fact that foreclosures hit a record high in the 2nd quarter of 2010 and again in August, 2010.
Of course the National Association for Business Economics (NABE) said in October 2009 the recession would be over by January 2010.
So much for relying on NBER and NABE for predictions.
Banks Not Foreclosing
Before getting into the real reason I believe Bank of America, J.P. Morgan and other banks are halting foreclosure, I believe it’s important to point out that banks have in fact not been foreclosing on properties for quite some time.
I pointed this out February, 2010 in The Banking Crisis Is Far From Over Revisited – FDIC Troubles and Bank Shenanigans.
Banks Are Letting Non-Mortgage Paying Homeowners Live In Their House for Free
There are numerous people I know of that are living in the homes they bought and are underwater with their mortgage being worth more than their home. They haven’t paid their mortgage in some cases for over a year.
Does anyone wonder how the homeowner can get away with this? Why aren’t they being kicked to the curb by the banks foreclosure unit?
The answer based on my research is simply that the bank cannot afford to mark that depreciated asset at current market prices for they risk falling under the threshold where the FDIC draws the line of solvency resulting in a take over of operations and the search for a more solvent bank to take them over.
In that article I pointed out the problems with FDIC insolvency and how fractional reserve banking escalated these problems further.
Many folks are trying to do short sales in getting out of their property and the mortgage they took out which is now valued more than the real estate itself. Of course, with a short sale, the buyer of the property has to come to some sort of agreement with the lender (bank). The problem is, the lender is not agreeing to the lower prices offered by the buyer. Why? Because the bank would have to mark to market that asset at a lower price and this in turn would/could cause the bank to need more cash to make sure their balance sheets are in line with Federal minimum requirements.
If that 2006 $500,000 home is worth $300,000 today, a 40% decrease, the bank that has the house listed as an asset of $500,000 would all of a sudden have to be decreased by $200,000. Their balance sheets can’t afford that steep of a decline in valuation, so they don’t foreclose.
What escalates the problem for banks is they work on a fractional reserve basis where they loan out 9 times the money they take in. Multiply this $200,000 number by a few more mortgages and you can readily see the banks balance sheet would soon be in the red if they foreclosed on these homes and the FDIC would be knocking on their door soon after.
The fact that congress allowed banks to loan out at multiples above historic norms is part and parcel why they are in so much trouble today.
Professor George Reisman explains this in an article he wrote Our Financial House of Cards;
If a mortgage lender initially had assets worth $103 and debts of his own of $100 incurred in order to finance the purchase of those assets, a mere 4 percent decline in the value of his assets would wipe out his entire capital and then some. Multiply these numbers by many billions, and the example corresponds exactly to the real-world cases.
So what’s a poor banker supposed to do in keeping the FDIC from knocking on their door? First they stop foreclosing. But as can be seen by the record number of foreclosures, probably from those people who didn’t know they could squat in their house and the bank would not foreclose on them, banks have had to reluctantly foreclose. And since the amount of foreclosures are still in 2010 hitting record numbers, the banks found another way out. They found a way to stop foreclosing altogether.
They not only found a way to stop foreclosing, but they also now have Senator Harry Reid leading the way to call on lenders in all 50 states to halt foreclosures. Talk about your bank holiday! Of course Reid lives in the highest foreclosure state in the country, Nevada.
Some are saying the foreclosure issues they are experiencing could last for years. How convenient would that be for the banks as they hope and pray real estate rebounds and their balance sheets improve accordingly? Keep dreaming bankers.
Banks have already received a reprieve from the Financial Accounting Standards Board (FASB) in April 2009 by not having to market to market their real estate at today’s prices, but keep them listed on their balance sheets at the higher prices they once were. No one seems to ever mention this fact do they?
Even to this very moment, the banks are fighting modification of these rules. If banks had to revert to the old rules, the system would collapse and they know it.
The Banking Crisis Is Much Worse Than People Know
While there may be paperwork problems and fraud associated with banks, there’s much more to this story than meets the public eye.
The following is chart from my book “Buy Gold and Silver Safely” where I reveal just how much trouble the top major banks are in (numbers in thousands).
As you can see from the above chart, Bank of America leads the way with serious debt issues. At the same time, all of the top banks are experiencing deteriorating balance sheets. If the stimulus money they received from the government was used to shore up their balance sheets, it hasn’t worked.
Banks Not Lending
The fact that banks aren’t lending to anyone is another problem. This is how banks are supposed to make money. But if you own a bank right now, are you ready to lock in a 30 year fixed loan under 5% when you know at some point interest rates will shoot back up? The banker would be stuck with a loan that is below market rates for the majority of that 30 years.
I remember 25 years ago clients bragging to me about their 5% mortgages. In 10 years, the homeowners with a fixed rate loan today will be bragging again. Of course their home probably won’t be worth more than it is today.
Bankers aren’t stupid. That is, bankers who didn’t take advantage of congressional nonsense in allowing them to take on a multiple above the normal fractional reserve lending limits aren’t stupid. The others are the ones who have ruined it for everyone else.
The Coming Sub-investment Grade Derivative Problems For Top Banks
Add to this the problems of derivatives held by banks, as seen in the following chart and also discussed in detail in my book, and we have the makings of a perfect storm. Pay close attention to the figures in the column that says “Sub-investment grade maturity 1-5 years.”
Bank of America has 454 billion of sub-investment grade derivatives coming due in the next 1-5 years. JP Morgan over 1.5 trillion. Is it a coincidence these two banks names pop us as wanting to halt foreclosures? How will this effect the balance sheets of these banks that are already in debt if just a few of these sub-investment grade derivatives implode? What would happen if these banks were forced to mark to market their assets?
If any of these things occurred, is it too far out of line to say they’d be broke? And people expect the FDIC to come to their rescue when the FDIC is basically broke?
The data speaks for itself. There is trouble afoot. Many of the top banks in America are experiencing financial difficulties as well as the smaller ones.
Banks, Lenders, Insurers and the FDIC In a Nutshell
Twenty-five banks failed in 2008, 140 in 2009, 130 through October 8, 2010; Fannie and Freddie were delisted from the NYSE and already received bailout money and will need more as PMI, the insurer of many of those mortgages, has had 12 straight quarterly losses stemming from defaults; 120 institutions, mostly small banks missed their TARP payments; and the FDIC itself will eventually need a bailout.
But maybe the FDIC will raise the insured limit from $250,000 to $1 Million and all this will go away! I’m sorry, but I just have to laugh at that one. Might as well make it a cool $1 Billion FDIC coverage!
This is the logic of our current system.
Turning Ignorance Into Enlightenment
Ignorance is simply not knowing what you don’t know. If people just relied on the media for their intelligence, then they are limited to what the media tells them is the truth. One has to dig for themselves if they want to know what’s really going on. I’ve been digging for five straight years. I feel my digging reveals what the truth really is.
There is a reason why I am trying to get the message out about buying gold and silver for one’s portfolio through my book and with the articles I write. There’s a reason I got into the business of selling bullion gold and silver too. To help people one person at a time understand the truth and prepare themselves for what’s to come. And I’m not a chicken little gold bug either. I base everything I say on the facts as I see it.
The Facts
Yes, gold and silver are good for hedging against that portion of your portfolio that is U.S. dollar based (U.S. stocks, U.S. corporate bonds, U.S. government bonds), but its also a hedge against a total collapse of the system, including the banking system. It is insurance that I believe everyone should have.
The Federal Reserve System is at fault for giving us fractional reserve banking to begin with. Congress is at fault for being complicit in allowing banks to loan more than historic norms. And lenders are at fault for thinking real estate prices do nothing but go higher and at the same time loaning to anyone with a pulse.
The situation for banks today will not improve by any further government stimulus. I fully expect another round of bailouts coming to help the banks, even if the Republicans take back the house in November. Hey, they did it when Bush was in office!….to save the system of course. People should realize by now it doesn’t matter who’s in congress. Wake up! All this talk about left vs. right vs. tea party isn’t going to change congress. The system at present is unsustainable.
More bank bailouts will only delay the inevitable collapse. The Fed’s balance sheet is already a mess. Does anyone really think the bright Harvard, Yale and Wharton economists who allowed all this to happen are now going to all of a sudden wave a magic wand and fix the banking system?
The bottom line is it’s our labor and taxing of that labor that will pay for what our government and the banks have done to us. It is always We the People who have to atone for their abuses.
And to think we pay them to abuse us.
You load sixteen tons, what do you get
Another day older and deeper in debt
Saint Peter don’t you call me ‘cause I can’t go
I owe my soul to the company store
—Tennessee Ernie Ford
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Awesome article, Doug! Awesome!
Anyone who has the slightest interest in learning more about the foreclosure game, this is a must read article.
Moreover, Doug explains why every savings portfolio must invest in hard metal, gold and silver NOW!!!
Doug is the real thing. He, like other truthers who write on other critical topics like 911, ther wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan, and Obama’s nativity story cannot afford to ignore Doug’s “financial” truth which is spot on! Thank goodness we have a Doug, who understands and can effectively communicate the financial world on our side.
O/T, sorry but…you know with the difference in time zone I always check Press TV before retiring.
Looks like 30 NATO tankers have been torched by Pakistan. I’m telling you, they are sick of this crap and of having their innocent citizens being slaughtered.
http://www.presstv.com/detail/145846.html
and yes, Prairie, you must tell Doug about Helen and her rare visits to the wine cellar to do inventory. can’t wait to read it
also, we really do have a wine cellar, but right now it’s filled with lawn stuff b/c we may need this space for something entirely different someday? for now it’s used for the lawn.
Helen,
I think you would enjoy the current show on RBN. Talking about Talmud and the rest. If you’re up for it, tune in. I think the program is Rick Adams….I haven’t listened to him before, but…very informative.
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?page_id=3
I’m sorry—but, I haven’t stopped laughing yet~~~
ROFLMAO…now that we, the taxpayers, are more than broke, who’s gonna help you now, folks.
Oh, yeah, you with pensions, 401K, et. al., uhh, I’d be worried.
Sometimes, it’s not bad being dirt poor, living from pay check to pay check!!
I’ve been sending revelations about 9/11 to Helen’s email–not wanting to start a war or damage anyone’s illusion that our nation’s leaders don’t have blood on their hands.
Now, I can breathe better. Doug’s one of us!!
Prairie,
Here’s a couple of good links that may shed some light on this Hawaii land grab/fraud. I haven’t everything yet. The first one is Mike Rivero’s site – he’s in Oahu. The other site seems to be dedicated to a group involved in returning Hawaii to a sovereign nation.
An overview of the Hawaii Kingdom:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/HAWAII/leonsiu/The%20Living%20HawaiianKingdom.pdf
and this one looks like they’re covering the lawsuit that someone on Fourwinds is writing about:
http://www.hawaiiankingdom.info/?p=513
BTW, it looks like the U.S. did annex Hawaii Islands, albeit illegally. One site compared it to the annexation of Texas, though the Republic of Texas was smart enough to give themselves an opt out clause.
They are trying to return to full restoration of Hawaiian Kingdom National Gov’t as an independent, “neutral” nation, just as it existed before. And, based on what I’m reading, Hawaii, all along, has maintained their prior sovereign form of government in some factions it has operated side by side to the imposed form from the U.S.
This is really interesting now that I understand a bit more of the true history of it and more to the point, knowing their original form of government still exists.
After you’ve had a chance to look at these two sites, I’d like to know your thoughts.
Oops….guess it’s still a bit early
I haven’t everything yet.
Should say – I haven’t read everything yet.
Helen,
Add to your list of improvements – we need a “print” button for the articles.
Folks – Judge Napolitano is on at 10 am EST, right now and he’s breaking news about Able Danger and the federal cover up of 911. Col. Anthony Shaffer will be breaking the news the Pentagon believed it got rid of by burning all of those books last week. I’m tuned in. Let me know if anyone else here tunes in. Love to chat about it as he breaks the news.
Lt Col Shaffer, Dir. of Able Danger, and Phil Schauer (sp?), Dir of Bin Laden team for the CIA, spoke of Zelikow and his role in covering up the truth behind 911 to the Commissioners. Zelikow is now tucked away at the Univ of Va in Charlottesville. Looks as though intel ops are coming out and targeting the Commissioners and the Bush cabal.
This from Steady Drip:…..ya think???
Saturday, October 9, 2010
RE: My “out on a limb” prediction from Friday, January 22, 2010:
RE: My “out on a limb” prediction from Friday, January 22, 2010:
“IF this trend of AKA Obama’s approval numbers falling continues, a prominent person (media or political) will endorse the investigation of AKA Obama’s hidden personal history.”
It is beginning to happen!
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=212705
New Mexico candidate ready for ‘fight’ about eligibility…..Congressional contender says Obama raised ‘most significant questions himself’
JustMe,
I had researched the subject of HI being a legal state back when I was chasing my tail on the BC issue. I may have taken for granted that others had been down this same road.
What I believe we are learning now is that the fed government has used the “ceded” land as some sort of colleral. The credit given to the fed was based on faulty ownership of the 1.8 million acres, therefore, all of the contracts linked to this are null and void- and it sounds like a chit load (3/4 of the world economy) is based on these contracts, treaties, ect.).
The native Hawiians are now, with the recent de jure grand jury indictment, have provided evidence to their land rights and evidence of massive mortgage fraud (sound familiar?) Is this the jist you get from it?
FOR THOSE JUST CATCHING UP ON THE HI MYTH:
… “On November 23, 1993, President Clinton signed United States Public Law 103-150, which not only acknowledged the illegal actions committed by the United States in the overthrow of the legitimate government of Hawaii, but also that the Hawaiian people never surrendered their sovereignty. The latter is the most important part of United States Public Law 103-150 for it makes it quite clear that the Hawaiian people never legally ceased to be a sovereign separate independent nation. There is no argument that can change that fact.
United States Public Law 103-150, despite its polite language, is an official admission that the government of the United States illegally occupies the territory of the Hawaiian people.
In 1999, the United Nations confirmed that the plebiscite vote that led to Hawaii’s statehood was in violation of article 73 of the United Nations’ charter. The Hawaii statehood vote, under treaty then in effect, was illegal and non-binding. (The same is true of the Alaska plebiscite).
In a world where nations are as governed by laws as are men, Hawaii is not and has never legally been a part of the United States. Hawaii was stolen from the Hawaiian people, and they want it back.”
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/HAWAII/hawaii.php
collateral.
Helen,
The judge is on what channel or station?
Wow! Is this another pay to play scenario – Hawaii agrees to cover up 0bama’s nativity story in exchange for regaining their sovereignty?
Helen,
I am not sure that there is a pay to play. This sentence is from the fourwinds post…”We had to go find the order, the immigrant clerks here are famous for protecting the crimes which support the State occupancy. ” Remember, the “State of HI” is nothing more than an illegal, faux, usurped form of government “representing” the people. HI is a sovereign Kingdom and the “State of HI” is as phony as a $3 bill. It is the “Minnie Me” of the evil federal government.
I would not conclude obama is trying to recognize the Kingdom of HI until we figure out what he is trying to pull by classifying the sovereign people as “native Americans.” This smells bad.
Helen,
If there is a pay to play, perhaps o is protecting the status of the “State” for secrecy of his records. In other words, o may be in dealings with the “State” not the Kingdom. Think, if HI’s sovereignty becomes known, o is not American.
One more note: HI does not need to regain it’s sovereignty…they never lost it. O, if born there, is not an American citizen nor a dual citizen. He is a subject of the Kingdom of HI, how is that for out there?
got it!!!
Hey, where is the Judge and what is he saying?
Pence: Odds are on Supreme Court striking down healthcare reform
“It’s going to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court’s going to decide whether or not the Constitution of the United States permits the government to order the American people to purchase goods or services, whether they want them or need them or not,” Pence said Friday on WLS radio in Indiana.
“I rather like our chances when this thing gets to the U.S. Supreme Court,” he said. “I think there could be a narrow majority on the court that recognizes that you cannot compel the American people to purchase health insurance just as a function of being an American citizen.”
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/123461-pence-odds-are-on-supreme-court-striking-down-health-reform
(Well,well…since the Michigan courts just ruled the legality of this bill, what does that say about Michigan courts??)
JJ,
I would love to see someone argue the discrimination factor of the health care bill, in light of all the special groups o is letting opt out.
OT,
Saw on Fox this morning that a school in Texas (I believe) is making a whooping cough vaccine MANDATORY due to a recent outbreak.
Prairie,
this is pretty much where I am with it all, too. Interesting to see your post on the b/c issue. I was thinking exactly the same thing. He’s still a damn foreigner any way you slice it. LOL
One thing I thought of in regards to the Monsanto GMO crops after reading about Mr. Dole Pineapple – is it deja vu all over again? Mr. Monsanto (if there is a mister) is taking over and will declare himself ruler of Hawaii…ha!
There is STILL something we’re missing here, as you said above. WHY does he want to put Hawaiians in the same category as native Indians? What’s the rush? And how does that relate to this Executive Order 13549, Aug 18, 2010, Classified Nat’l Security Information Program. It has something to do with Homeland Security, but hells bells if I can understand it.
Prairie,
Dr. Tenpenny’s site, if you’re concerned, has info on the outbreak of this whooping cough. This was an issue recently in California, I believe.
There are vaccine laws here in Texas that are supposed to prohibit “mandatory” vaccination. Have to check in to that further.
http://www.drtenpenny.com
What does the term “federally recognized” mean?
Only tribes who maintain a legal relationship to the U.S. government through binding treaties, acts of Congress, executive orders, etc., are officially “recognized” by the federal government. Once “recognized” a tribe has a legal relationship with the United States. There are currently more than 550 federally recognized tribes in the United States, including some 200 village groups in Alaska. However, there are still hundreds of tribes undergoing the lengthy and tedious process of applying for federal recognition.
What does “tribal sovereignty” mean and why is it so important to Native Americans?
Tribal sovereignty describes the right of federally recognized tribes to govern themselves and the existence of a government-to-government relationship with the United States. Thus a tribe is not a ward of the government, but an independent nation with the right to form its own government, adjudicate legal cases within its borders, levy taxes within its borders, establish its membership, and decide its own future fate. The federal government has a trust responsibility to protect tribal lands,
assets, resources and treaty rights.
http://www.narf.org/pubs/misc/faqs.html
Once “recognized” a tribe has a legal relationship with the United States. I believe this is a key sentence.
If o can get them recognized as Native Americans, can he clean up the land mess with the creation of reservations?
What is a reservation?
In the U.S., there are only two kinds of reserved lands that are well-known — military and Indian. An Indian reservation is a landbase that a tribe reserved for itself when it relinquished its other land areas to the U.S. through treaties. More recently, Congressional acts, executive orders and administrative acts have created reservations. Some reservations, today, have non-Indian residents and land owners.
Roberts sells stock to participate in landmark vaccine case…
http://vactruth.com/2010/10/09/chief-justice-john-roberts-cashes-in-pfizer-stocks-to-participate-in-landmark-vaccine-case/
Do you all recall the name of the tribe that adopted Obama just prior to his being sworn into office?
JustMe,
Speaking of deja vu, I just had a thought…o classifies the sovereign Hawiian people as Native Americans, he uses executive order to create reservations (think GMO “non-Indian landowners”), and Mr. Monsanto pays no taxes. Deja vu all over again like Mr. Dole who beat the sugar tax.
Black Eagle family of the Crow tribe. What are you thinking girl?
Obama adopted into Crow Tribe – http://www.reznetnews.org/article/obama-adopted-crow-tribe-13960
I don’t know what I’m thinking yet. But I don’t believe in coinkydinks if you know what I mean. Every move Obama makes is intentional, deliberate and one step ahead of everyone else. I could be grasping at straws here but think about this – America’s first and foremost natural born citizen is a Native American, right? Native Hawiian’s would have the same claim, right? Then we have the slave trade that brought thousands of Kenyan’s to the shores of America, right?
Of course, we’ve also learned that Kenya won it’s freedom from Britian in 1948 and we know America or at least the 10 square miles known as Washington DC remains fully under the control of Britian today. Therefore, how do all of these pieces fit under various treaties signed, amendments passed, etc? Maybe they don’t and maybe they do. Who knows. Like I said, I don’t believe in coinkydinks anymore.
And never before has a Presidential nominee, remember he was adopted by the tribe in May 2008, a full three months before he won the Democrat nomination, been adopted by a Native American tribe. Do you know of any? I don’t.
so, we have one word that keeps coming up that is “native” and what does the 14th amd state -
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
Helen,
I am thinking along the lines of the GMO plantations being the big wigs in HI right now, just like the sugar plantations back when. Did you read the link I posted downstairs about o eliminating the beef industry and farming through the EPA regulation of DUST?
How all these pieces like his Crow adoption and bc are still a mystery.
nope, Prairie, I haven’t read that post. if you have it handy and can repost thanks, if not i’ll go looking for it.
I get the direction you’re heading in. My brain is taking me to this whole “native” thingy b/c somehow they compliment one another in a way that intrigues me.
You keep us focused on the GMO lines you’re travelling down. I find it all fascinating and yet another part of the matrix.
The term Native is definately a repeating theme. Also, let’s remember that HI has been exempted from the Health Care Bill.
http://hoekstra.house.gov/news/email/show.aspx?ID=QYOE3B6PVXEE54GHCEEXZ2H5UQ
Helen,
Here you guy, read up, it’s ugly.
How they plan to take over the cattle industry and literally, steal the farms…
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/beef-industry-us-may-need-strategic-hamb
LOL. Here you go, not guy. My fingers have been failing me all morning. Perhaps because my mind is going a million miles an hour. I woke up at 4 thinking of this damn HI myth and have been up since.
Regarding the Hawaii issue, it would be interesting to see if one of the native Hawaiian’s could try and acquire title to property as “allodial” title.
Technically, to acquire allodial title, one has to prove they are a descendant of royalty (ancestor who originally owned the land).
This may be quite easy to do with native Hawaiians since many have stayed put and not moved to another country like say the British, German and French who moved to America centuries ago.
Here’s a pretty good analysis of the concept; http://activerain.com/blogsview/558294/allodial-title-as-explained-by-thomas-jefferson
You don’t find allodial title holding up in mainland courts, but I could see it holding up in Hawaii.
The thing with allodial title vs. how title is held in the U.S., is one never owns their home in the U.S. under current title, even if they have their property paid in full and possess the title to the property. This is because non-payment of taxes on the property can cause the state to take it from you.
Talk about your scam.
Which begs the question, why does the state have a right to tax what you own outright? Where in the Constitution does it give them the right to do this?
Control is what the state is always after. How property is titled is just one way of grabbing more control. The state will always want more. Witness the recent eminent domain laws enacted. Little by little the state takes.
So find the Duke’s and Duchesses in your family tree and take your property back!
“All the problems we face in the United States today can be traced to an unenlightened immigration policy on the part of the American Indian.” Pat Paulsen
I always liked Pat Paulsen…good clean humor. Now I’ve aged myself!
Doug,
Thank you for weighing in. Facinating and maddening isn’t it. Here may be a relavant clause to your arguement:
“Prior to the occupant Supreme Court deciding for Ben Cayetano and Linda Lingle (their plan), we successfully implanted correct and true facts regarding the 1,619 private probate Royal Patented Estates, with facts, affidavits and substantial records exhibiting the judicial devisee’s ad income beneficiaries were still very much alive and have never executed any such transfer of their 1,619 privately held probate Royal Patented Estates Assets to the “state of Hawaii, Inc. nor any of its/their predecessors. In short, that court and upon advice from others who received the information – threw it back without making a decision, saying such “ceded” lands cannot be sold… now.”
Well, here we go…
Royal Patents hold a Allodial title. Kamehameha III by the Great Mahele granted the lands of Hawaii in Allodial title. The legal term for the word Allodial is “Allodial” or “Allodium”, which is defined as free, absolute, and non holding of any lord or superior. Own without obligation, property tax, and land held absolutely in one’s own right. As such his majesty and his konohiki (Headman of an ahupua’a land division under the chief) had the absolute title.
Read more: http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupprofile&groupID=103825275#ixzz11tHImVaX
Here is a link to a video series on the Royal Proclamation of 1763 scribed by King George, III vs the Declaration of Independence 1776.
http://history.kosmix.com/topic/Royal_Proclamation,_1763/Video
Hi Helen…..I lurk here a lot but usually don’t post….I like Doug’s information too….I was wondering if any of you have heard of Damon Vrabel….he has some great lessons on the financial system and then finally what we need to do…….please go to the below link if you are interested…..
http://www.csper.org/renaissance-20.html
hey Jacqlyn – nice to see ya. will check out the link and info. hope all of life is treating you and yours well.
this is way off topic but thought it’d be helpful info for ATM users –
The recent tragedy of a young woman being kidnapped and eventually killed after she had repeatedly given the kidnapper a wrong PIN to her ATM card. If she knew the method below, she might have been saved. So I think it isimportant enough to let you know. Here you go.
If you should ever be forced by a robber to withdraw money from an ATM machine, you can notify the police by entering your Pin # in reverse.
For example if your pin number is 1234 then you would put in 4321. The ATM recognizes that your pin number is backwards from the ATM card you placed in the machine. The machine will still give you the money you requested, but
unknown to the robber, the police will be immediately dispatched to help you. This information was recently broadcasted on FOX TV and it states that it is seldom used because people don’t know it exists. Please pass this along.
Hey Helen….I hope you enjoy the information from Damon….I knew a lot of it but it never hurts to review the reality of what we are facing….my family is doing fine….I am still fighting my lawsuit and my husband started a new job last week with Southwest Airlines…..I wish we could become more self sufficient as Damon says we need to but right now we have to continue to play the game in order to survive…..have a good one helen….I will return later….BTW…I like your T-room….lots of great information…keep up the great job!
h/t to JJ – Dr Finklestein, a Jew, speaks out against Palestinian genocide perpetrated by the Khazar’s in Israel –
HEADS UP – Wayne Madsen will be on RBN @6:00 Central
Dr. Heshem Tillawi is on now. I just tuned in, he’s going over Rick Sanchez and the domination and control of the Jewish media.
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?page_id=3
Nice stuff Prarie and Helen…I think I’ll find me a Hawaiian girl, lol.
I love that state anyway…
Jacqly, thanks for the link. Looks interesting, especially “the left vs. right political framework is not the place to find solutions” and what their solutions might be.
As we all know, politics as usual gets us nowhere. Breaking through the media bias is what I’m trying to do behind the scenes. I also came close to testifying before congress, so I know I’m doing something right. I still have a few tricks up my sleeve!
Thanks again…it looks like their mission is to “free humanity from imperial control.” Can’t go wrong with that!
I posted this before, worth posting again…
I did it! I finally got it to play JustMe! Hot damn.
WOO HOO, PRAIRIE!!!!
Are you believing what you’re hearing? No wonder we can’t get folks to wake the hell up. UGH!
Government website for the Kingdom of HI. No kidding. This is wild. Now to dig into Alaska.
http://www.hawaiiankingdom.org/
anytime y’all want me to embed a video just let me know. I’ll add this to the list of upgrades coming soon. woo hoo. keep growing your lists on what you would like to see The T-Room to add to the site. I will have an open thread inviting all to pipe in and tell me what upgrades you’d like us to make. so start those lists.
Prairie,
I will take a look at it later, doing laundry.
I read something a few months ago about Alaska that surprised me. Seems like it was leased from Russia for a long while, then some man decided HE wanted it and put the wheels in motion. I wished I could remember more details. I BELIEVE??? he was the first governor.
Prairie – just for background information only – Virginia and the original 13 colonies were under British rule until the Revolutionary War. King George granted land titles all up and down the east coast to individuals who are known as “First Families”. You may want to delve into these land grants, King George III 1763 Resolution AND the Declaration of Independence to get an idea as to whether such grants fell under the Alloidial title. I’ll betcha they do!
http://mirror.uncyc.org/wiki/Old_Alaska – here is a link to ‘uncyclopedia’ that provides good background. You’re on a roll girl. Keep it up and keep us informed. Woo hoo!!
“After being explored by Russian explorers, Czar Peter I declared Alaska open for settlement. Many Russian and English settlers began to flock to the gold rich country. When the population boomed, Alaska became an administrative district of the Russian empire. But in order to make some more money in the Russian Treasury, the Rus. Government put a high tariff on Alaskan gold. With there market shrinking, the Alaskan miners declared their independence from Russia on November 12, 1855. In order to quell the rebellion, Czar Nicholas the I sent troops across the Bering Straight. The Alaskan War Of Independence (1855-1857) had begun. In two years, and 2,000 lives later, Russia recognized its former colony. In 1881, it ceded the Kamchatka Peninsula and the modern day Yukon.”
http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Alaska_%28Failed_CC%29
General Assembly Resolution 637, 16 December, 1952, (VII), considering the Right of people’s for self- Determination and a basic Human Right makes it clear: “3. The States Members of the United Nations responsible for the administration of Non-Self-Governing and Trust Territories shall take the practical steps, pending the realization of the right of self-determination and in preparation thereof, to ensure the direct participation of the indigenous populations in the legislative and executive organs of government of those territories, and to prepare them for complete self-government or independence”.
The U.S. Government completely neglected its responsibilities to the people of Alaska, which UN considered to be a Non-Self-Governing Territory, and did nothing to inform Alaskans about their Rights under that resolution. By allowing the U.S. Military Personnel and their of age dependents to vote on Alaska statehood on August 26, 1958, the U.S. Government forced its will on Alaskans. We believe that all these actions of the U.S. Government make the “statehood vote” of 1958 illegal and Alaska should retain the status of Non-Self-Governing Territory.
here is a scribd post that may be worth culling through – http://www.scribd.com/doc/4425269/St-Innocent-of-AlaskaThe-Way-Into-the-Kingdom-of-Heaven
Prairie – I strongly urge you to take the time to watch the three-part video series above regarding King George III Proclamation of 1763. It tells us that under British rule, the King had no desire to go into these territories. Further it tells us that the US from the beginning of our Founding Documents e.g., the Declaration of Independence and the 1812 War was to invade other sovereign nations to build an Imperialist Empire, which is what we have today. Britian, through this Proclamation made it clear to all indigenous people, that they were not interested in building the US outside of the East Coast, 13 colonies. However, our FF did want to conquer and build said nation. Again, please watch the video series, three parts = thirty minutes.
this series provides all of us with the context of what was really happening during said times. from there, one can clearly begin to connect said dots, of which you are elucidating, to current affairs.
Helen, I sure will. Forgot my link for above:
http://nationalexpositor.com/News/1190.html
Helen,
a caller on Tallawi’s show is talking about Scoffield.
Helen, sorry, meant to add this is how they control religion, too. Just like we learned from your posts last week.
There is a commonly held belief across Alaska, that the US Constitution has been set aside, and other then ourselves, there are no protections to the liberty and freedoms we are to have as our continued inheritance since the formation of the Union of the “several States”. Our main “goal” is a legal vote and ballot; one that was not given in 1958 and was in violation of International Law and Treaty. Alaskan were robbed of the choices we were to have as a non-self-governing territory, and steam-rolled into the current classification of a State. The Native population of Alaska, in a large percentage, did not even receive a ballot because of the Federal Voting Rights Act in place, at the time requiring the ability to read and write English, and for the first time in any Statehood vote of a Territory entering this “Union”, the military and their of age dependents, through a special act of the US Congress, were allowed access to the Statehood ballot. Then, as today, corruption abounds. The US government is far and away outside the bounds placed on it by the 9th and 10th amendments and is operating illegally for all .
http://www.akip.org/
What a day, huh, Helen? Aren’t you proud of your country? Just think, the info was there all along, one just needs to find the rabbit hole,the head lamp, and jump.
Indeed, Prairie, and you’ve jumped. The rest of us are like what in the heck is going on, but I’m working like a dog to keep up with you. You’re on fire! Candidly, I hadn’t a clue where you were going with all of this, but now I do, and believe you, my dear friend, are on the right track. Hunt girl, hunt!!! When you’re done though and you’ve got a good handle on all of this, I wish to invite you to write a post for the blog. Please. No one can do it better than you so I’ll be looking for an article from you the early part of next week. No more putting me off. You and JM w/o question, can scribe as well if not much better than me.
the Scofield Bible is absolutely being used as a first source, Jesus Christ, by the BOUGHT AND PAID FOR Christian fundamentalists, Neocons and Zionist/Khazar Christians who then is convinced through this 20th Century Bible written by an admitted shyster and then the Oxford group funded by the Khazar’s out of Israel who promote war and genocide!!! How friggin UNCHRISTIAN is that! Sick I tell you, SICK!!!
I REMEMBER…where I read the bit on Alaska. It was in the Savoie writings on the U.N. I posted a few threads back.
The man’s name was William H. Seward who purchased Alaska. I believe he was a member of the Pilgrims Society. He was a Secretary of State under LIncoln.
Well connected to the usual criminals.
http://www.silver-investor.com/charlessavoie/cs_may05_pilgrims.htm
Helen,
Really? Have you seen all my typos today?! LOL. Here is a great piece providing evidence FDR knew of and provoked the Pearl Harbor attack. Just keeps piling on.
http://www.infowars.com/october-7-1940-the-day-that-should-have-lived-in-infamy/print/
MADSEN IS ON….
JustMe,
That Pilgrim Society keeps coming up.
Honest answer, Prairie, I am appalled and thoroughly disgusted by these Imperialist’s who have been running our country since her Independence. F’ em, I have no patience nor tolerance left for their devilish and devious plans. I said long ago, a Seal Team or Teams have some major cleaning up to do and damn if they won’t do it, then let’s hope the retiree’s will. I am sick to death of Stalin and Hitler’s shadows, legacy, insanity having any influence in my homeland. All who believe and support such an apparatchik must go! Leave we Christians, Jews, Bhuddists, Muslims and all other religious creeds the hell alone! We’re not buying.
girl, I can edit you. No need to worry. Like I said, I want a post from you by the earlier part of this week. Typos and all…i smile
WOW – this is gonna be good tonight…
“O” is becoming a paranoid Schizophrenic and suffering from severe depression.
I’m tuned in JM. Listening to Life Alert now.
Helen,
lol – maybe “O” needs to get one of those gadgets.
what I meant to say is “Leave we [peace loving] Christians, Jews, Bhuddists, Muslims and all other religious creeds the hell alone! We’re not buying.
Bob Woodward, huh?
The common denominator with Watergate and the “O” administration. I remember hearing a McGovern interview over a year ago saying something very similar about same people are there that were around during JFK. This is the interview where McGovern said there were two CIA’s.
Time to start the grill for supper, damn if I won’t miss Madsen. Hubby is home, suppose I should tell him we only have 48 states (I think anyway.) I am thinking this explains the exact wording in o’s executive order in regard to “territories” and “tribes.” Fill me in on Madsen, please.
JustMe, listened to the show.
All I can say is when I write an article, sometimes I will post it on Seeking Alpha.
A year or so ago, I posted some of what they call “instablogs” at Seeking Alpha and that instablog they make a decision on whether or not it is good enough to become an “article.” An article gets all of the recognition/front page/attention that comes with it.
I wrote to them and complained that they were biased because my articles pertained to physical gold which at that time was not a category as their entire site which only dealt with stocks and ETFs. There was no physical gold or silver category. So I quit writing and deleted what I had already written.
They have since added the category of “precious metals.”
So a few weeks ago, I joined Seeking Alpha again, with a book under my belt, and wrote my first instatblog which they made into an article. I notified them I was working on a big article that I wanted them to post the next day. The article was critical of Glenn Beck and Anthony Weiner, D, NY, the person who has been going after Glenn Beck.
They told me to send in the article right away as they told me “please note that many of our editors are based in Israel and it’s a holiday here tomorrow afternoon and Thursday, so there might be some delay in getting articles up.”
I can’t say it’s true or not, but they never posted my instablog as an article. Why didn’t they? I was exposing the bias of congress and the gold industry in ripping people off? Why wouldn’t they want that information out there?
All I can do is speculate that its because I was critical of Anthony Weiner, a Jewish person. This fits in with the “media control” the person was talking about on the show.
Interesting to hear the insight that most of their editors are in Israel. My last name being Eberhardt probably doesn’t help, lol.
Needless to say, I was pissed and quit writing. I can get a lot more readership through Seeking Alpha, but if they are biased, I can’t keep doing it. I decided to test them one more time with my banking article and so far they haven’t made it an article. I’ll know by Sunday night if they do. If they don’t, I’ll be writing them and giving them a piece of my mind….again.
One way or another, I’ll get the truth out to people. But like the guy on the show who has his videos disappear on youtube and elsewhere, they are infringing upon your free speech in doing so. The only thing people can do, is take to the air themselves.
However, I have some things I’m working on for my other site that will shake up their world. Knowledge is power, but putting some pieces of the puzzle together and exposing it, is… well… priceless…
Gee…can you tell I’m a writer? My posts are always so long… lol
did Madsen just suggest that Biden will become Prez b/c Obama is illegal? good GOD tell me I heard this correctly.
Doug – never feel you need to limit your words here. We welcome your thought process written out loud. Works for all of us truthers.
curious question, what is your other blogsite, Doug?
Helen,
Madsen says he and others are predicting they will use the 25th Amendment to relieve O of his duties due to his serious medical condition. Yes, you heard right. Biden, then Piglosi as VP and Hillary will step down, too.
A wild ride for sure.
Doug,
unbelievable story you have to tell. So, you’ve experienced it first hand.
I’ve read they also control a lot – most – of the publishing houses, too.
Keep writing, Doug. Have thoroughly enjoyed everything you’ve shared.
I love this caller from S. Carolina. She’s so “rich” in her wisdom and just a down home type woman – but a very smart down home type woman. I’d love to be her neighbor. LOL
Helen, I get carried away, ha…
Everytime I write an article and look down at the word count, it’s over a 1,000 before I know it..
My other website, which I haven’t had time to write on lately, and was referenced here by someone before, is my Christian/Political site; http://fedupbook.com/blog
It is in preparation for a future book I was going to call “Fed Up!,” but a certain Texas governor is coming out with a book of the same name, albeit he is a hypocrite since he accepted all the stimulus money (Texans know this).
So I will transition this site to the new site which I am keeping secret the name for now.
You’ll find it interesting to know my overall agenda. What I have learned from seeing the treatment by the press of Ron Paul and others who are critical of the government is they are thrown into a category to discredit them. The categories are:
1. racist
2. conspiracy nut
3. Sanchez
If I say anything that is close to conspiracy, as much as I could, then I am labeled as such.
So I decided I will go after the media that shapes people’s minds, while at the same time expose government nonsense from a political, economic and investment point of view (the economic and investment viewpoint coming through my first book).
Now that the first book is finished, to establish credibility, based on my over 20 years of being an investment advisor, my next book is to challenge Christians as to their thinking. For these books, I am keeping everything non-conspiracy oriented. This second book is already written in my head and the thousands of emails I just have to put together into chapters.
My 3rd book will basically say, if you don’t listen to what the first two books say, here’s what’s going to happen. It is a fictional book that will be based on all of the conspiracies in existence today. So in a sense, it is fictional, but based on reality. Meaning, everything I write will be portrayed in such a manner that people will finally visualize that all of these things have been occurring all along.
You wouldn’t believe how much material I have for this third book, which is why I am happy to have found your site to find even more material! Woohoo!
Anyway…now you know a little bit more about me. There’s a method to my madness. I have a dream and a plan, haha. But for now, I am sorry I can’t take part in too many conversations on the “truth” related stuff. Although I’ll bet you’d like to hear what I know from a person I met who blows up buildings for a living, lol.
Awesome questions you posed to Wayne, Helen.
It will no doubt be a wild ride.
We all knew when they “needed” to they would bring the birth certificate issue to the fore. And…here we are, folks! Hard to be excited that *someone* is finally listening and doing something about it – which is what we’ll read ad nauseam on the blogs.
I don’t have any confidence in the alternate line up.
Doug, it was me that wrote about your other site. Somehow I ended up on that site, don’t ask me how. I love rabbit trails. lol
Doug,
have you been introduced to the writings of Eustace Mullins? If not, may find them quite useful. He was summoned by Ezra Pound, who was being held in a mental institution as a political prisoner, to finish what he set out to do. Similar to your task. Check Helen’s archives. Lots of info there.
Well, just finished getting things ready for our Thanksgiving tomorrow. I’ve never heard it said or read any where, but I think ours is so much earlier, because of our Canadian climate.
Harvesting time is earlier, a time for thanks giving.
You’ve all been busy it seems.
Doug,
I’m intrigued by your story regarding Seeking Alpha. As you commented before Neilson strongly supports physical possession of PM, though his articles are usually about mining stocks. Curious.
Thanks JustMe…I’ve taken the last 5 year off for research. I’m ready for the next stage of my life…releasing it….and of course helping people acquire gold and silver at low costs!
You see, the more people who own gold and silver, the more the supply dries up and the price moves higher. The more the price moves higher, the more the Fed’s hand is exposed.
My goal is to End the Fed. I am the David to their Goliath.
BTW,
I got your name at Seeking Alpha after a commenter referred to your site.
Ha JustMe…I was curious how you found it, lol. Yes, Eustace Mullins has been part of my research. I appreciate the reference to more here.
Venice, I would prefer they just post my articles. Have a GREAT Thanksgiving!
See Venice, I wouldn’t have found you all if I didn’t post there!
Doug,
Were you the commenter referring to your site then, because I don’t remember who it was?
Did she just say scrape the cat kibble out of grandma’s mouth? lol
Doug,
got it! Really, really looking forward to your trilogy.
I like the method to your madness. I, too, believe we MUST cut the cord with the Fed. The fact that “O” just gave them even more powers was quite disturbing to me. Of course, it goes without saying the IRS has to go, too.
Venice, yes…I think it was the confiscation article someone else wrote, and I commented on my article, which I could have posted on Seeking Alpha, but was p.o.’d at them.
Turns out I had more than 300 people come to my site because of that comment, lol.
You were one of them, but you must have referenced it from here and that’s how I found Helen!
Venice,
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
Doug,
Just checked. Now I remember. Maybe you’ll consider posting at another time…the word should really get out.
Thanks JustMe and Doug,
Thanksgiving is one of my favourite holidays.
Thanks Venice…but will they make it an article? If it sits as an instablog, no one ever reads it.
Even though I believe its information all should know.
Sometimes I have felt I write just for me. But I keep writing. It’s all I have. But interestingly enough, this last week I decided to write even more and my readership doubled. Google is being kind to me!
I’m hiring a professional SEO company nonetheless.
As Helen knows, it takes a lot of work to put together a good website and blog!
Doug,
If you don’t mind me asking. I first was alerted to the importance of gold in 2008 and in the spring of 2009 heard Peter Schiff on the matter. I know many regard him to be highly bullish on gold, and many were discouraged after losing a considerable amount on their mining stocks in 2008.
Indications are pretty clear from many sources that a crash is imminent. I’ve considered this for a while and have decided in favor a post rather pre-election crash or correction, which ever it may be.
Do you agree with those who say this time mining stocks will not be hit at all as they did in 2008? If you have time I’d appreciate your thoughts.
P.S. I know holding physical precludes having to deal with this question, but for mining stock investors it is a critical question. How these stocks respond to adverse events will give an indication of gold’s robustness in the market.
Jacqly, thanks for the link. Looks interesting, especially “the left vs. right political framework is not the place to find solutions” and what their solutions might be.
As we all know, politics as usual gets us nowhere. Breaking through the media bias is what I’m trying to do behind the scenes. I also came close to testifying before congress, so I know I’m doing something right. I still have a few tricks up my sleeve!
Thanks again…it looks like their mission is to “free humanity from imperial control.” Can’t go wrong with that!
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Hi Doug….I agree and thanks again for your info…..I will look forward to those tricks you have up your sleeve…..GBU!
Biden, then Piglosi as VP and Hillary will step down, too.
A wild ride for sure.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are many who have declared that if ineligibility is the culprit–then Biden isn’t legal either…and the wicked
bitchwitch being part of the cabal creating this mess is also not qualified–in fact, she can be tried for misprision of felony.They even suggest MCCain is to reign but hell, what do we know??
Does anybody think this was a ‘happening’ because the ulterior objective was to really destroy the Dem party and the Republican party said, well, let’s let this pass and when we do destroy the young tart in our own time frame, we can undo all that he and his gang has done…because the callousness of that and the shape our nation is in due to this last abomination of 2 years creates a real quandry for me—
WHICH GUN DO I USE AND WHO DO I SHOOT FIRST[So WTH do we do???]hope you don’t mind my edits, JJ, just thinking you don’t want a black SUV pulling up in the driveway. Looking out for you, girl.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69731820101008?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a49:g43:r2:c0.094477:b38207172:z0
Obama is resisting his masters. I sure hope he has the aide of the international community, because increasingly it will be all that he’ll have.
“The resignation of Jones had been expected as part of a mid-term reshuffle at the White House, although he was thought to be going after the November 2 congressional election.”
Sentences like this are what tell the real story.
Venice,
good morning….
Don’t know if you had a chance to hear Madsen’s show last night, but things are REALLY unraveling on The Hill. I remember your comments on his psychological state along with his outward physical appearance. It was very much as Madsen was describing it.
The fool doesn’t even “get” that folks are not happy with him. Seems his wife had to break *that* revelation to him.
Madsen likened the current situation to the Nixon admin – Bob Woodward was a common denominator. Madsen says Woodward usually keeps a low profile, so the fact he has a new book out about “O” is very telling.
He said, this could well be the October Surprise.
Good Morning JustMe,
I really appreciate you keeping us informed. There is clearly a mission to bury O, and I hope that’s only a figure of speech.
We can expect much more marital turmoil, but that is none of the nation’s business and quite frankly they don’t care.
I know I’ve expressed my position on O’s serious deficits with understanding the world around him, but I’m curious to hear how Madsen phrased it. Do you have any recall of it? If not, not to worry.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6980UH20101009
Good article reporting efforts to control currency wars. As a corollary, gold will be controlled as well. Gold will rise, but in a more or less orderly fashion. I have read that approx. $100.00/ quarter is what is aimed for.
Venice,
most of what Madsen said about “O”, like I mentioned earlier, you wouldn’t have been surprised by. You saw it – and called it – very early on.
But – the surprise is there is serious talk about using a rarely, if ever used, article in the Constitution to relieve “O” of his duties because of his medical condition.
Madsen said a top “O” staffer says he is becoming a paranoid Schizophrenic and suffering from severe depression. He thinks everyone is out to get him; the banks are conspiring against him, he’s being lied to about the jobs numbers, etc…Madsen said probably all is true.
The Biden’s don’t like him or Moochelle and would be thrilled to take over the ship that is quickly being abandoned. I don’t feel like Biden will be any better – maybe worse.
Add to this the marital problems.
Looks like the CIA is *finally* seriously looking at the b/c issue. We knew this would eventually happen according to their time table. And, Madsen fingered Bob Woodward, who is a CIA asset, as being a common denominator in this admin. and Nixon’s admin. If you recall the McGovern interview last summer talking about the JFK book he was reading and the warning his friend gave him about some of the same people being around…well, one of those he was talking about was Woodward. He has just released a book about “O,” too.
The other mentions are the NSA advisor that just stepped down and the man that will replace him. Gates will probably leaving much sooner because of that.
Said the Clintons don’t like “O” and IF they invoke the medical clause to have him step aside he doesn’t believe Hillary will remain in her current position as SOS. He believes she will ready herself for a presidential run. Oh boy….won’t that be fun.
Madsen will write in more detail and post on his site today/tomorrow.
I think I’ve hit most of the points. Helen called in to the show, so she can expound on these points, or fill in some of the things I’ve missed. This is the gist of it – none of which would surprise *you.*
Venice,
He believes she will ready herself for a presidential run.
I meant to say:
*she will step down* and ready herself for a presidential run. Evidently Bill has already been collecting financial promises from supporters.
Venice, et al
thought you may be interested in this Jim Willie (Golden Jackass) Internet radio show, from Oct 7th, about the stair step pattern in gold and the currency/financial breakdown. I think it’s about an hour long, but you have the option to fast forward. I’m listening to it now.
http://www.contraryinvestorscafe.com/jim-willie-radio/
JustMe,
Thankyou so much for that summary. Pray tell what is the “medical condition”. O hasn’t looked well for over a year. Poor man, he is so much his mother’s son. They don’t have to shoot him, sadly, this is much MORE sophisticated.
As for Hillary, I think you can count on her running. She has been sucking it in and storing this one for a very long time. At least since her husband left office.
Ha! I have to laugh at this “rarely” used. You know you can find just about any exception to the rule. That’s what they hire lawyers for. It’s just more smoke and mirrors.
BTW,
O is not schizophrenic, but he has been battling depression for over a year. Remember that outburst with his chief of staff approx. 13 months ago. It started then.
Venice,
Yes, I do remember that outburst. Have to remember the schizophrenic “diagnosis” was made by a staffer. LOL
Moochelle is the one that had to break the news to him of the reality of his popularity with the folks & those surrounding him. That fits with your dx of his Narcissistic personality disorder.
Are you thinking there’s something else physically wrong with his health than just severe depression that Madsen mentioned?
all who have left were dual citizens. they failed their Khazar masters in their mission to destroy America. here’s what i think is really going on – first, I don’t take inside sources serious. why? b/c they are propagandists and simply attempting to frame the story about 0 the way they need to so as to protect their masters criminality. Woodward became his own story with this new release “Obama Wars”. He is looked upon as an ass who lost his journalistic compass long ago.
Gates has already announced his departure. It will be sped up now. I don’t see a loss here. Gate’s reports to his Khazar masters and could give a rip about our servicemen and women.
0 is a CIA asset known as Renegade meaning he is not managable. That simple. What we are seeing is a tired and worn down POTUS who has likely been betrayed by those who departed and mentally beaten up by M. There is a part of me that believes 0 is ridding his inner circle from the nutjob neocons. These are Bushie leftovers who were put into his inner sphere to control him. When 0 insisted on a true peace agreement b/w Palestine and Khazarland he meant it. Read Madsen’s intel on this piece of the puzzle. It is very telling.
Now Khazar Master’s will unleash their hate and destroy 0. They’ve been put on notice that assissination is not an option so they will annhilate him and his family by other means. Remeber, Khazarland is not America’s ally, NO they are our enemy, always have been and always will be. Maybe just maybe it’s through 0 and his administration that American’s of all stripes, cultures and races will awake to this diabolical empire. Time to sever all semblence of a relationship here which is where I believe 0 is heading. Instead of beating him up for it, I might suggest we the people actually support him.
It’s the Khazar’s that are demanding this NWO, it’s the Khazar’s that have stolen our military secrets, national security secrets and nuclear weapons. It’s the Khazar’s that were the mastermind’s behind 911, the Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan and lord knows how many other wars. It’s the Khazar’s that steal our wealth and have kept us on the plantation via the Federal Reserve system. This is our enemy and maybe, just maybe, Renegade along with others have a counter plan to rid us people from this evil scourge.
The one thing I’ve finally learned over the last couple of weeks is that the Khazar’s intentionally infiltrated the Jewish faith in the early 1900s. They have victimized these good people of faith relentlessly and now they are repeating this infiltration here in America with Christian dupes like Falwell, Robertson Hagee to name a few. Its’ so clear to me. Their ultimate goal is to destroy all people of faith and enslave the rest to serve out their sick and twisted agenda.
I concur, venice. Renegade is not schizo or suffering from psychosis – it’s likely AIDS or some other genetic disorder. The only crazy thing about this man as far as I can see is his Narcissism and how he actually believed, at some level, he was bigger than what he truly is. Humility is a beautiful thing and if M finally got through to him well, I applaud her. No one relishes in being brutally honest with those they love. No one.
Helen,
Wow. That was like a hammer coming down out of the blue. LOL
I wonder and wait to see if indeed “O” may have a few cards up his sleeve. Admittedly I vacillate back and forth in does he or doesn’t he.
Can’t forget the influence of the Rothschilds in all of this. The driving force behind the rise of Rothschild’s Empire was THE TALMUD, which, according to author, Mike Piper, *clearly* outlines the age-old Jewish dream of a New World Order. And, as you point out above, Helen, there are many non-Jewish powers that have come to accept the Jewish influence as a reality and actually ‘pedal’ it as gospel.
I’m just starting to read Mike Piper’s book, “The New Babylon.” He describes what we already know, that the United States — a result of the Rothschild influence within — is now the virtual engine of Rothschild power and states the U.S. is “The New Babylon” in the Jewish world view – very critical to achieving the NWO.
Helen,
forgot one thing – the Rothschilds hired Scoffield to write that fraudulent bible.
JM and Helen,
Many have given O the diagnosis of narcissistic personality, but unfortunately I think it’s more complex than that.
This is not a forum to get into details, but suffice it to say, that his propensity for not protecting himself is quite strong. That’s what Michelle is aware of and is constantly advising him about. He reflexively I think trusts his wife, but whether he can take her advice is another matter. Remember he has powerful ideologies
that cannot be challenged easily.
As to the “medical condition” I guess Madsen is including these psychiatric conditions, ie. schizophrenia and depression. Well, as I said the latter fits, but as to others your guess is as good as mine.
Most under very adverse conditions will fall prey to medical illnesses, ranging from mild to severe. So anything is possible.
Helen 11:08,
As JM I too keep wondering what O has up his sleeve and whether it will be enough. This is why the international community may be central to his plans.
Venice 2010 at 9:09 pm and 9:15 pm
As you know, I concentrate on the physical aspect to owning gold and silver. I have given my thoughts in a few articles on the “trading.”
I look at it from a risk vs. reward aspect. I am a believer in patience, lots of patience, (Guns and Roses anyone, – see, I can still hang with the youth…ha)…and waiting for the trade to come to you. There are always pullbacks. Dollar cost averaging into them is the way to play the trades, for that allocation you have set aside.
Any other thoughts, fire away. Just know my crystal ball is full of gold and silver, so its heard to read.
I may turn this reply I just made on Seeking Alpha this morning into an article; http://seekingalpha.com/article/229256-when-will-gold-reach-10-000-an-ounce?source=hp_latest_articles#comment_update_link
It was a way to get my complaints in on Seeking Alpha too. Normally I can edit my comments at anytime, but they have already shut that ability off. I have an email ready to send to them, but maybe I’ll just keep posing good stuff in the comments section, lol.
The author of that article, who seems to have a lot of followers, was trying to use the interest rate angle in saying gold bugs don’t consider it. Hopefully I refuted his argument.
Off to Church!
So the Khazar Rothschild’s had the hateful Talmud written to infiltrate and brainwash the Jew and now we know the Khazar Rothschild’s took the Scoffield Bible and made it fit their sick NWO Babylonian crappola plan. So, now we know as fact the Khazar Rothschild’s infiltrated both Western religions with their venemous spew. Sick I tell you, these people are mentally ill.
Remember following the Democrat nomination of Obama, Lady de Rothschild, who is best friends with the Khazar Hillary, abandoned the D Party and went directly to McCain’s camp. She is the sole money behind the rise of Khazar Palin.
Remember, when the Lady married Amchel they honeymooned at the WH with Billary. Renegade was not their candidate, Hillary was, and if Billary believes we former D’s don’t get where her loyalties lie, which is NOT AMERICA, well then, she’s going to be humbled.
Yeah, it’s a hammer, JM. Anyone who comes here has had to have learned all of this background noise in order to understand what has happened to our Country. The religious piece was the last item we needed to figure out and we have. The Khazar’s are the Jew and Christian’s enemy, period. May 0 have that international support you refer to venice. B/c if this is anywhere close to what we are now witnessing in Act II of this drama, well I will stand behind Renegade. All people deserve nothing less than peace. To many innocents have suffered under these evil freaks rule.
This is the big secret, right here, this is the crux of the world’s challenges. The Rothschild’s are no more Jewish than I am. They are Khazar’s who adopted Judaism and infiltrated these peaceful people to further their own demonic, destructive, pathetic path to world domination. America is not going to be their Babylon!!!
Doug, the link has been corrected.
Helen,
I don’t know who wrote the Talmud. I was saying the Rothschild hired Scoffield to write the bible being used in seminaries and elsewhere (as you brought to our attention) to convince the masses we must stand by Israel.
Piper writes, “the father of the Rothschild brothers, Meyer Amschel’s mindset was guided by the principles of the Talmud. He was a zealous believer in the teachings/philosophy of the Talmud.”
• The grand scheme of the NWO lies in the ancient teachings of the Jewish Talmud
• The intended realization of the Talmudic dream what has been called “the Jewish Utopia” – is a GLOBAL Jewish Imperium, rule of the planet by the Jewish elite
• The Zionist movement to create a Jewish state – Israel – as a geographic and political entity has been integral to the plan for a NWO
• The rise of International Jewish Finance and the consequent emergence of the Rothschild Dynasty as the foremost influence is central to the program for advancing the NWO
• The consolidation of Rothschild power over the British Empire laid the foundation for the framework of the NWO
• The United States today – a result of the Rothschild influence WITHIN – is now the virtual engine of Rothschild power and constitutes “the New Babylon” in the Jewish world view
Piper doesn’t believe the Rothschilds or the Jews or the Zionists are in *complete* control of the mechanism of power in our world today. But, their level of influence is so substantial they can, in a sense, be seen as the fulcrum upon which the balance of modern power rests. They work everyday to make certain that in the end they achieve absolute power.
Above excerpts are from Michael Collins Piper’s book, “The New Babylon; those Who Reign Spreme”
Helen,
their achievements in working towards this global domination is made possible through the the likes of United Nations, WTO, GATT, IMF, etc…
I was just listening to Dr. Wynn Parker’s show – and it is so evident this is the case. I want to gather my thoughts on the content of his program because it was jam packed with info, and he’s always all over the place. I’ll post later.
He said that when “O” went to Berlin – remember that Kodak moment? – he went there to sign letters of intent for a GLOBAL redistribution of wealth. He also talked about the UN now controlling our water and food supply.
He also said be wary of the news the Senators and Representatives plan to vote to “modify” the health care law. He said this is a diversion. The GOP should be voting to REPEAL it. It was written long before “O” took office and is nothing more than a tax law designed to redistribute the wealth. Also will be used to reduce the population, as we know.
I’ll be back later. Have to take a break.
I’ll bet anybody a dollar that the Talmud reads like the Scoffieild Bible. Thus, they are two books marketed to the masses as religious books – one for the Jew and one for the Christian. I’m confident they’ve tried the same with the Muslim faith.
What part of our collective religious/spiritual teaching’s espouse support for war? None. Thus, both books are a propagandistic tool to convince good and decent people that war is christian or jewish…ba humbug! War is neither and support for it is due to fear drummed up by the propagandistic Khazar’s.
JM – language means everything. The word “Zionist” is an invention and serves as cover for the Talmudic Khazar. Kinda like the supposed “federal government” is in no way a government. It is a corporate entity lead by a CEO who has a Board of Director’s to report too. This false language serves no one but the elite so I’m changing my language. Thinking about writing a post on old terms we’ve been brainwashed to believe are one thing when in fact their true meaning is the precise opposite. Hegelian Dialect operating at its optimum, eh?
Looking forward to reading your update on Dr Parker’s show.
Thanks Helen!
Prairie must be writing that article, Helen. lol
Helen,
check your e-mail – quick question for you
Prairie is not writing, she is still learning what it all means. Oh, and chasing ghosts… check this out please.
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1286749601
Look what I found…
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/preemptiran.php
Prairie,
just a little trick to see if you’re near. lol
I am anxious to hear what you’ve discovered. Unfortunately, or fortunately for hubby, I have to prepare dinner.
bbl
I have been in and out today as usual, it is gorgious so I was washing my outside windows. Boys all left to go hunting with Dad, I don’t have to cook, just having cereal and loving it.
Russia Today (RT) & Iran’s Press TV as US Public Enemies according to former CNN head.
http://america-hijacked.com/2010/10/10/russia-today-rt-irans-press-tv-as-us-public-enemies-according-to-former-cnn-head/
I’m reminded of something I heard the other night on Mike Piper’s show:
A man by the name Wes Hooker wanted to set up a 4th network and attracted some big named people who put him in touch with Joseph P. Kennedy. The two of them playing golf, Joseph Kennedy saying “I did everything I could to stop the Jews from getting us into WWII. Well, we lost and they won.” Piper says he couldn’t help support Hooker’s network because he was lining up his son to run for President and he didn’t want to cause problems.
So, here we are today with 6 Jewish companies own 96% of the media – includes all mediums.
Prairie,
glad you enjoyed your day and your alone time. It was gorgeous here, as well. The temps now are so perfectly balanced morning and night here.
Interesting read on both Fourwinds & Rivero’s link you posted.
Enjoy the rest of your evening. Back tomorrow.
U.S. GOVERNMENT EXPERIMENTS ON ITS OWN PEOPLE
a significant timeline of *known* experiments – imagine the ones we don’t know about. Truly sad.
http://www.datelinezero.com/?p=4405
Seems O himself is a victim of the mortgage fraud…
http://4closurefraud.org/2010/10/10/4closurefraud-exclusive-president-obama-falls-victim-to-chase-robo-signer/
Important warning on Coke.
http://www.infowars.com/warning-to-glenn-beck-dont-drink-diet-coke/
I take back what I said about Seeking Alpha. It took them a few days, but they posted my article. I had a letter all ready to go out too, lol.
Interesting thing is they changed the title of the article. They changed it from:
The Real Reason Bank of America Halts Foreclosure In 50 States – They’re Broke!
to:
Gold: Insurance Against Total Collapse of the Banking System
I still think there are some good banks, like the ones that work with farmers in the Midwest, but it is true that if one of the top 5 banks got into trouble, it could start the run on banks I spoke of in my book.
People would first perceive “I need to get my money out of the bank.” But in reality, it calls into question whether that “money” needs to be converted to real wealth.
In the bank runs of the early 30′s, people would run to the bank and get gold for their Federal Reserve Notes. Now they will run to the bank to get their Federal Reserve Notes and find a way to convert them to gold and silver.
I fully believe in the next 1-5 years, when these sub-investments come due for Bank of America, and especially JP Morgan Chase, there will not only be another bailout, but also a much, much, higher price in gold and silver as people will see the cracks in the system (those that don’t already).
The cracks will come when people rush out of treasuries. Why would they rush out of treasuries? Because you can’t take your T-bill down to the grocery store and buy bread.
I’m not an alarmist, but a realist. I view the data and come to conclusions based on my analysis of the data. I wrote an article on the European banks not too long ago and I want to dive into their data further.
But in revealing this info, I don’t want to be viewed as the person who brought down the system. I just want people to diversify into gold and silver to hedge against this potential problem.
Is that so bad? Or do you think I’m an alarmist?
(Disclosure: I do sell gold and silver bullion so people may think I have an incentive to be an alarmist. In reality, all I try to do is supply the missing link that our financial services industry refuses to address; the fact they don’t protect people’s portfolios with their diversification models and Nobel Prize winning Modern Portfolio Theory against U.S. dollar risk. They view the U.S. dollar (and treasuries) as the “risk free” asset. Clearly, to me, it is not.)
BUFFALO, N.Y. (WIVB) – Only 22 days remain until Election Day, and more than 300,000 New York service members and overseas voters still don’t have their absentee ballots.
Fox News reports that Albany has failed to send the ballots to military voters more than one week after the deadline, a violation of the “Move” Act.
http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/new_york/NY-service-members-dont-have-ballots
BEST KEPT SUPREME COURT SECRET EVER
By J.T. Coyote
“In June of 1997 sheriffs Jay Printz of Montana and Richard Mack of Arizona, properly embarrassed the federal government by winning a 5-4 Supreme Court decision finding key provisions of the Brady Law unconstitutional on 10th Amendment grounds. The 10th Amendment reads: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
This landmark victory for state sovereignty by upholding the 10th Amendment, limits federal power within the states to its prescribed constitutional parameters — not just firearms legislation alone, but all federal mandates, funded or unfunded. The court held that the states cannot be coerced into any federal mandate that is not supported directly by constitutional provisions granting that federal power.
There’s a reason why most have not heard of this 1997 decision. It was quickly swept out of the media by Bill Clinton and that inconvenient stain on Monica Lewinski’s blue dress. Only now is the meaning of this decision seeing the light of day.”…
More here:
http://www.boogai.net/headlines/the-best-kept-supreme-court-secret-ever/
Doug,
excellent. Hope this approach works out for you on Seeking Alpha. The main thing is you’re getting the word out, whether as a post or an article.
Prairie,
I can’t believe that Beck didn’t know the ramifications of drinking too many Diet Cokes. It possibly would explain his macular degeneration, too. Depends on how much he was drinking. Rummy (Rumsfeld) should be laying low – have such a celeb with health issues related to aspartame. Maybe Beck will have a report from Popular Mechanics to show us it is perfectly safe to use Aspartame. lol
Prairie,
duh….I hadn’t read the article yet on Beck before I commented. It’s all there in black/white.
My husband heard his radio show this a.m. and his other two guys were yucking it up about “Rumsfeld Plague.” Instead of taking the opportunity to inform or warn folks, they were downplaying it as if it were a conspiracy theory. Another missed opportunity to enlighten and possibly save a few people’s health.
The structure of the Constitution
Scalia refers to the “dual sovereignty” established by the U.S. Constitution that federalism is built upon. His opinion states that the Framers designed the Constitution to allow Federal regulation of international and interstate matters, not internal matters reserved to the State Legislatures. The majority arrives at the conclusion that allowing the Federal government to draft the police officers of the 50 states into its service would increase its powers far beyond what the Constitution intends.
The Court also offered an alternative basis for striking down the provision: it violated the constitutional separation of powers by robbing the president of his power to execute the laws; that is, it contradicted the “unitary executive theory”. The Court explained
We have thus far discussed the effect that federal control of state officers would have upon the first element of the “double security” alluded to by Madison: the division of power between State and Federal Governments. It would also have an effect upon the second element: the separation and equilibration of powers between the three branches of the Federal Government itself. The Constitution does not leave to speculation who is to administer the laws enacted by Congress; the President, it says, “shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” Art. II, §3, personally and through officers whom he appoints (save for such inferior officers as Congress may authorize to be appointed by the “Courts of Law” or by “the Heads of Departments” who with other presidential appointees), Art. II, §2. The Brady Act effectively transfers this responsibility to thousands of CLEOs in the 50 States, who are left to implement the program without meaningful Presidential control (if indeed meaningful Presidential control is possible without the power to appoint and remove). The insistence of the Framers upon unity in the Federal Executive—to insure both vigor and accountability—is well known. See The Federalist No. 70 (A. Hamilton); 2 Documentary History of the Ratification of the Constitution 495 (M. Jensen ed. 1976) (statement of James Wilson); see also Calabresi & Prakash, The President’s Power to Execute the Laws, 104 Yale L. J. 541 (1994). That unity would be shattered, and the power of the President would be subject to reduction, if Congress could act as effectively without the President as with him, by simply requiring state officers to execute its laws.
Finally, the majority cited previous rulings by the Supreme Court in similar situations. They relied on New York v. United States, wherein the Court ruled a Federal bill compelling States to enact legislation to provide for radioactive waste disposal was unconstitutional because it violated the Tenth Amendment; thus, a precedent was set prohibiting the Federal government from compelling a state to enforce a Federal regulatory program.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printz_v._United_States
This is huge.
Thanks JustMe, I have been getting a lot of calls from the article. Helen, please delete the post above about Seeking Alpha, lol.
They have a knack of getting their posts read via Google search engines and elsewhere because of their massive content with over 500,000 people writing articles. If they want to change my titles, then more power to them as you’re right…I’m getting the message out!
Hi folks, sorry I’ve been missing. Have guests in from California. Doing a bunch of research this week. Will be popping in and out.
Prairie,
it is huge, but…This case sets a precedence and yet no one seems to be paying any attention to it. WTH?!
Hi, Helen
okie dokey…
that means i’m working to catch up.
hey, btw, JM, were you going to post a synopsis of Dr. Parker’s show yesterday?
JustMe,
You are right. It would set the states free of so much from Health Care to Head Start.
JM – check your email.
Helen,
I will post Parker’s show notes later. I’m still trying to figure out one thing he said – concerning the United Nations sanction passed/approved this past week about the use and suppression of water here in the U.S. – which is now under UN control. He said it was called Action #20 and that it was a 6 sentence “determination.” I’ve spent a number of hours ferreting it out. I THINK I finally have something I can use. Ugh! Suffice it to say, it isn’t good.
Many times Parker will talk about these things and nothing hits the Internet about it for several days. He’s always ahead with his news.
Excellent! Once you post, I’ll turn it into a post OR send it to me via email. Whichever, we’ll get it up asap!!!!
Helen,
not so fast, Girl! I still need a bit more info to even be able to completely understand what the heck he said. He covered a lot of different things, and he likes to make you work to find out what he’s talking about.
bbl
Prairie,
you may want to tune into Alex – there’s an Am. Indian from S. Dakota on. He’s been on a while, so don’t know how much longer he’ll be on. He’s smart.
http://www.infowars.com
Prairie,
his name is Russell Means (sp?) of The Republic of Lakota.
He just said the United States was incorporated in Puerto Rico. Interesting.
HEADS UP –
next up on Alex’s show is Dr. Rockey (sp?) head of DU (Depleted Uranium) weapons. He was on the show a week ago – back this time for extended period. It was an excellent show.
http://www.infowars.com
JM – may I ask you to post your hydrology question to dk here? I’ve asked her to stop by for a minute to see if she can answer your question. I have no email addresses due to my hard drive crash…getting the hard drive back today, fingers crossed, so can re load all the data. Until then, I do not have email addy’s except for a handful of which is not dk’s. happy to share email addy’s with the two of you if you/she give me permission.
scratch this request JM – dk wrote privately. working to get the two of you hooked up.
Helen,
Thanks!
Gold sets another record high today – $1350
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS – The Southern Poverty Law Center is Now Part of DHS (Homeland Security)
http://dailypaul.com/node/146285
Hmmm… that didn’t take long. Call for impeachment based on the 25th admendment.
http://www.kesharogers.com/content/impeach-obama-now-25th-amendment
Also, the blaze is covering the Oath Keeper story of the stolen infant.
Prairie,
well, well, well….that WAS quick. Let’s roll!
The SPLC is a BIG part of that. The SPLC and the ADL are nothing but ‘spy’ organizations reporting to the FBI and now the DHS. They want to corral us here in the U.S. just as they have corralled the Palestinians. I guess the next thing is they’ll want the U.S. Citizens to take an oath of loyalty to Israel. Wait…maybe that’s already been done. Fascism at its finest right here on our soil with the blessings of the government.
I’ve always heard if you give a person enough rope they’ll hang themselves with it. I’m a waitin for that hangin! Have a feeling it won’t be long.
http://www.presstv.com/detail/146238.html
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/11/soros-i-cant-stop-a-republican-avalanche/?hp
Anybody else find this an ambiguous statement?
Somehow I don’t think O has Soros’ support any longer and that truly spells much trouble.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_10/026075.php
A slightly more fleshed out reasoning on Soros’ stance.
Venice,
IMHO, this is indicative of what we see so clearly – a one party system with one goal. 2 heads/1 snake. No true separation of party lines. All members, with few exceptions, are working toward the same GLOBAL agenda. Perhaps Soros doesn’t *have* to “throw” this support – financial or otherwise – to any particular candidate because we much further along in the grand scheme of things. He can just sit back and relax now….Just throwing it out there for consideration.
Doug,
Congratulations on Seeking Alpha. You’ve created quite a stir as well, revealing the importance of your topic.
One quick question though. Do you anticipate that this foreclosure scam will expose further fraudulence at the Federal Reserve level?
Thanks JustMe,
I was thinking something similar along those lines. But the key point you make is that the endgame is further along in its path, requiring less assistance. Yes, I think you’re right.
Gotta Love Max Keiser – After 9/11 America is finished
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AT5zzFT7sc&feature=player_embedded
Interesting article – thought a long read…those of you that are ADD/ADHD may want to print it out. LOL
America’s China Bashing: A Compendium of Junk Economics
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig11/hudson-m1.1.1.html
ONCE MORE – this is the video that keeps on giving….lol
Foreclosure parody with Hitler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kPCYcBm-C8&feature=player_embedded
ANOTHER AID CONVOY HEADED FOR GAZA – This makes #5
“The convoy is currently in the port city of Latakia in northwestern Syria. It is expected to leave for the Egyptian port of El Arish on Wednesday before heading for the Gaza Strip.
Nicknamed ‘Lifeline 5′ and led by the charity’s director and former British lawmaker George Galloway, the aid mission intends to deliver basic humanitarian supplies to Gaza.
The move defies the all-out land, aerial and naval siege Israel has imposed on the coastal sliver since mid-June 2007. The blockade deprives the enclave’s 1.5 million residents of food, fuel and other necessities.” …
More here on Galloway’s mission:
http://www.presstv.com/detail/146318.html
AND…
INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVISTS PLAN TO SAIL ANOTHER FREEDOM FLOTILLA TO GAZA STRIP
“The Turkey-based Islamic charity IHH, which sponsored the previous convoy’s large lead ship, the Mavi Marmara, said the group is considering sending another ship of the same size.
The humanitarian convoy would depart next February, the campaigners said on Monday, the Associated Press reported.
The activists, who are from over a dozen countries, including Switzerland, Turkey, and the United States, said the next fleet would exceed the size of the first one.”…
More here:
http://www.presstv.com/detail/146316.html
MAMAS, DON’T LET YOUR BABIES GROW UP TO BE A ROTHSCHILD…..this is what bratty, wealthy, bored teens do for fun. Sick!
Rothschild daughter WARNS of bomb attack at U.S. Embassy in Dubai tomorrow to be blamed on U.S. activists? (that was supposed to “happen” on 9/24/10)
Read the texts/twitters threads between this Rothschild brat and an unknown here:
http://www.firetown.com/blog/2010/09/23/rothschild-daughter-warns-of-bomb-attack-at-u-s-embassy-in-dubai-tomorrow-to-be-blamed-on-u-s-activists/
Assasination of Story…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Z39lPXkw4&feature=related
wow! how many damned levels are there to this pyramid. that video is oddly put together IMHO but full of interesting details. So, is Story alive or dead?
10/11/2010
Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis101011: Six North Korean atomic bombs located in Japan, five have been seized by the police
The North Korean government smuggled six nuclear weapons into Japan to use as blackmail against the Japanese government, according to a senior Japanese public security police source. Five of the bombs have been seized by Japanese authorities but the sixth is located in the basement of the headquarters of the General Association of Korean Residents in Japan (Chosen Soren) and police have been warned it will be set off if they try to seize it. The discovery of the bombs by Japanese authorities confirms the original warning about the North Korean plot to attack with Japan that from a KGB agent who claimed to report directly to Russian Prime Minister Putin. The nuclear blackmail is linked to a failed Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate plot to start World War 3 on the Korean peninsula in a bid to stave off bankruptcy.
http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2010/10/weekly-geopolitical-news-and-analysis101011-six-north-korean-atomic-bombs-located-in-japan-five-have-been-seized-by-the-pol.html
Still immersed in the water – actually I’m drowning in it now. LOL
Too many rabbit trails that lead to more rabbit trails. So many trails, so little time.
I have figure out a lot of what Dr. Parker was talking about concerning the UN and control of the water, but I haven’t been able to definitively put my hands on the document he referred to as a “determination.” It’s driving me crazy!
Drip, drip, drop…revealed is obama’s name on socialist conferences honoring Marx during the early 80′s. MSM source.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/249390/obama%E2%80%99s-radical-past-stanley-kurtz?page=1
Hi Helen,
Thanks for posting another informative piece by Doug. Two thumbs up! Have a great week ahead, and all my best to you, JustMe, and all the other fine patriots who post here. Simply enjoy reading the insights/perspectives offered here by the sharp minded group sharing here. Back next week to lurk and learn some more. Long live our Republic…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6n2FgwWg7A&feature=player_embedded
video of the judge on the 9/11 whitewash.
A document obtained last week by the Associated Press showed a Bank of America official acknowledging in a legal proceeding that she signed thousands of foreclosure documents a month and typically didn’t read them. The official, Renee Hertzler, said in a February deposition that she signed 7,000 to 8,000 foreclosure documents a month.
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I liked this part…
a deposition? a legal proceeding?
Purpose?
who were the parties?
where does the case stand as of today?
February 2010?
What was the big secret? Is it not October?
7 to 8k a month??? Good grief that is about 50 to 60 sig’s in an eight hour day. Good grief!!! this is nutsoism.
HEADS UP – MIchael Piper on next on RBN
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?page_id=3
Venice said; “Do you anticipate that this foreclosure scam will expose further fraudulence at the Federal Reserve level?”
Hi Venice,…Good question. I’m still wrapping my head around how everyone still believes Bernanke. I just see things differently that most I guess. Of course time will dictate who’s right.
The Fed minutes came out today and I guess there was “talk” of more QE. No surprise there!
I don’t think this will get to the Federal level unless they are involved in bailing out some banks. At some point I believe this will occur again, with or without congress. They will soon have new powers. These powers, granted by congress, will allow them to cook the books much easier.
That’s why I think this is a tortoise race we are in, not a hare, with gold. The Fed is still relevant.
The fact we can’t audit anything they do means they can do even more and get away with it.
But how can these cats at the Fed do anything right in the future when all they have done is mess things up to get us where we are? In other words, I have no faith they will be able to pull the wool over our eyes for too long. Eventually they will slip up. Eventually their game will be exposed.
I think we are on the cusp of something happening. Either way, its good for gold. It’s good if it goes down so more can get in at better prices. It’s good if it goes up as it exposes the Fed’s hand (good for those that own it anyway).
I sent another article to Seeking Alpha. I updated an old article and made it relevant to today. “What Does the Price Of Gold Do In Deflation?” I never see anyone address this issue, so I put my 2 cents in. The bottom line; it’s good for gold.
Anyone have a target date for WWIII?
I don’t know if any of you have ever played the game of Risk (Ladies, ask your husbands if you haven’t), but the strategy of that game is basically, if you spread yourself too thin, you are vulnerable from attacks from other forces connected to your country.
The U.S. is lucky to be strategically located. That’s all I have to say. If our bordering countries were N. Korea, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, China and Russia, we’d be toast.
I’m sure I’m missing a few, but I would like to hear of anyone who has traveled lately, and had conversations with foreigners…and what those people had to say about our government.
Doug et al.
I thought this article most interesting.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/229283-silver-the-house-always-wins-until-now
Ultimately the Federal Reserve may have to be hit hard through a “derivative” move, ie. through the banks. I guess we’ll see.
Doug,
I don’t know if you would include Mexico, but I was there earlier this year. They all seem to “know” America is going down. They don’t hesitate a bit in saying this.
Doug,
I was listening to a show over the weekend and the host mentioned – didn’t go into any detail – that for the first time since 1942 state budgets will be changed. He connected it with the fact the dollar fell below the yen. He said we would begin to see the effects in approximately 6 weeks particularly in the depressed states.
Doug, can you speak to that? Any ideas elaborating on this…I get that most of the cities in these states – like California – will likely see less city services, probably pensions affected…what else?
Venice,
it seems we’ll be the last ones to know we’re going down and we no longer have to depend on a messenger riding through the countryside on horseback to deliver the news either. lol
I blame the controlled media.
AWESOME STORY – Evicted Family Breaks into Foreclosed Home and Squats.
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=11418
Hi JustMe,
Yes, the controlled media has played a significant role, but look at the good people here. Somehow inquiring minds start searching when what they see doesn’t add up. The media can only be successful with a willing audience.
Hi, Venice,
I’ve been transcribing and digging for further info after listening to Dr. Parker’s Sunday show. I’m telling it’s pure torture, but it is always worth it in the end. I’ve been down so darn many bunny trails, at times I forgot what I was looking for. I’m sure you can relate. lol
We’ve been talking about the currency wars here, and yet there is another war going on. A water war. I hope to gather my thoughts in a cohesive manner and be able to post something soon. Let’s just say that China, once again, comes out on top. My head is spinning with all this info I’ve sifted through, the tough part is where to start.
Hope your Thanksgiving was a memorable one.
Saying goodnight to all.
Venice at 10:04 pm,
Yes, the one issue that plays into this is I think the short covering has started with the changes in the CFTC rules that are forthcoming. Better to start taking losses than be the last one getting out.
The more I write and research, which has been a lot the last week, the more I see just how bad things really are. But I still feel in my gut that the Fed will make some moves against gold and silver. When??? is the question. They can’t have it taking off just yet. It exposes their game.
As far as Mexicans saying we’re going down, I’m not sure where that would leave their country. I lived in Mexico during the beginning of my research. At least we do our corruption through lobbyists, lol.
Interesting observations…
Just Me,
Everything will be effected IMO. Shortfalls in pensions, municipals (problems with muni-bonds), overpaid firemen and police with their bloated retirements that are unsustainable, unions fighting it all the way…this won’t end pretty.
Meanwhile, infrastructure issues will grow, government services will disappear and more and more cities will declare bankruptcy. This will fuel the unemployment numbers and thus the economy, housing etc. all suffer more.
The government will step in to help the states, but the cities who have mismanaged (San Diego comes to mind…Bell Gardens, Vallejo – all California) I don’t think can make it.
So I agree, drastic cuts are needed. Will the unions see the light? No. Unions will fight till the very end.
Wow…am I getting negative or what?
If I were to take the optimist viewpoint, I can’t think of anything to put on that side of the ledger…except “faith in government.” The government won’t let us down, will they?
Nah, the government won’t let us down. lol
Hi all – the research we’re doing is showing promise. spending the day reading tiny words on microfiche. bringing a magnifying glass with me today.
Interesting tidbit, the Virginia General Assembly voted against the Bank of the US back in 1812. Most everyone was against it.
http://sfawbn.com/news/?p=2285 China stakes claim in S Texas gas, oil
Information Clearinghouse – How Israel has taken over foreign policy at state. Now, who do you really think Hillary is working for.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23098.htm
Morning, Helen
That phrase sounds familiar – everyone was against it – like with the bailouts, “O”-Care, etc. These cries have fallen on deaf ears for decades.
What is the promise of that research? What will it change? Curious minds want to know.
I haven’t had a chance to visit my usual old haunts on the web, or read/view what’s been posted here the last couple of days. I’ve just been treading water (lol) with this whole U.N. water issue. Hoping to get caught up soon.
Helen,
You’d think that Hillary would have had her fill of Israel’s antics. Especially knowing that Bill was set up with Mossad agent Lewinsky, and landed a plane on the lawn of the W.H., among other things on a lengthy list. What gives, here?
Food prices to rise globally as energy prices hedge higher http://www.naturalnews.com/029999_food_prices_energy.html
Good morning, all,
This research is the nail in the coffin. It has nothing to do with the vote on renewing the lease to the the Bank of the US. That legislation was being discussed while the work we’re doing was taking place. Just mentioned the central bank piece due to interest.
JM – have you been able to find the determination?
I don’t know the answer to your question about Hill. My guess is that there is much more to Hillary’s background we know little about. Other than that, I remain clueless.
Chinese buying stake in oil/gas fields. It’s amazing what you can get for your money here, especially if you’re one of the largest holders of fiat currency. LOL
There is SOOOOOO much oil all around us. The cry of an oil shortage is garbage. I know someone with a small local oil/gas company and he said he can’t even get the refineries to take the crude. They say they don’t “need” it. Just more lies!
Remember LIndsey Williams’ book, the “Oil non-Crisis” or something to that effect…it’s been posted on the Internet for free. He spills the beans on that conspiracy. This, along with the other lies we’re now being fed about the carbon emissions and greenhouse gases and saying we have to reduce our consumption and output….THAT’S what I’ve been delving in to the past few days. Anything to reduce us to serfs and be beholden to the powerful few. Aaaaaaggghhh…..I’m fired up this morning!
JM – it’s rubbing off on me. I’m anxious to get moving on my end too! Will be checking in t/o the day. You GO GIRL!!!!
new post by Doug – http://buygoldandsilversafely.com/gold/warning-the-gold-dealer-scam-dont-get-ripped-off-when-buying-gold-and-silver/
Helen,
no I haven’t found it, yet. But, I’ve found a bunch of other stuff that will make your blood boil. All related to the determination and the lies about “green energy.”
I finally finished the research to ferret out and understand further what Dr. Parker was saying. I now have a much better handle on it all. Man, he makes you work for the crumbs he throws you!!!! But, that’s good. I now see much more clearly what he’s been trying to say AND so much more. I watched a video interview of Michael Shaw (I’ll post the link later) talking about just how important it is to get to your local authorities to stop this massive wheel that’s been turning for some time now. Started as far back as Reagan. He said it is our only hope. You know the phrase I posted the other day for you “Think Globally – Act Locally” (I may have it reversed) – Remember seeing those on bumper stickers a few years back – maybe as far back as the early 90′s? THAT was Agenda 21 going after the local governing bodies. They knew it would be easier to get them to sign on because they were CLUELESS. And, many of them did and still are. THAT’S where energies need to be concentrated. Our Congress has sold us out. We can forget them doing anything to reverse this mess. And, trust me, this mess is HUGE.
I told you I was fired up this morning. LOL
Yep, take a look at this one….just as we said, Doug.
US Cities Face Half a Trillion Dollars of Pension Deficits
http://www.cnbc.com/id/39626759
The T-Room’s thread is yours. I’m ready to learn and post and educate. You’re scaring the bajeebus out of me!!!
bbl
Helen, et al
I’m going to start crafting my post this morning. It has many legs/tentacles – and as you well know, it’s hard to figure out where to start. Not trying to scare you, just trying to inform. Hell, there’s so many other “scary” things going on, who knows if this one will scare anyone. Know what I mean?
Prairie,
any updates on Hawaii or your bunny trails on Alaska? I had to put that aside for now, but I’m still interested in keeping up with that story.
HEADS UP – looks like Alex’s guest today may be really interesting. Not sure, yet, what segment he’ll be on.
11:00 a.m. – 2:00 p.m. Central
http://www.infowars.com
Helen, you can listen via phone while you’re looking at micro fish films. lol
Guest info:
Alex Abella. Abella is the author of Soldiers of Reason: The Rand Corporation and the American Empire, a study of the world’s most influential think tank, published by Harcourt. Alex was the first journalist to have full access to RAND’s files in Santa Monica, California. Abella’s non-fiction work includes Shadow Enemies, a non-fiction account of a plot by Adolf Hitler to start a wave of terror and destruction in the United States.
512-646-5000
JustMe,
Trying to connect all the dots. Found this that might help you in your watery hole.
http://www.truthquestonline.info/NEWS_VIEWS.html
$1375.00 oz. – GOLD PRICE TODAY- another record!!!!
Thanks for the link Helen. And by the way, isn’t research fun?
JustMe…glad I woke up early today! If you know what I mean…and thanks!
Seeking Alpha did post my article.
The Price of Gold In Deflation
http://seekingalpha.com/article/229731-the-price-of-gold-in-deflation
It was cool to see when you search for the ETF:GLD on yahoo finance, my article appears.
I also posted a reply to another Seeking Alpha article;
Gold vs. Treasuries: Which Do You Believe?
http://seekingalpha.com/article/229733-gold-vs-treasuries-which-do-you-believe
Most of the time I don’t get replies. I’m used to it. I present concepts that most haven’t heard before, so they don’t want to reply back.
Bottom line is, treasuries are stronger because paper proxies to wealth are flowing down the liquidity pyramid to treasuries (perceived wealth) and to gold and silver (real wealth).
Gold up over $20 today.
Prairie, you are too kind!
I’ll have a look. It’s hard to stop searching, as you know. I actually love it! I’m like a sponge. lol There’s just so much out there that is relative and mostly unknown.
What I haven’t completely nailed down is THE document that Parker was referring to. It’s called a “determination.” Similar to an Ex. Order, but I don’t believe it’s as binding. I’ve never heard of one before now. It has to do with Action #20 that was formalized last week. I did finally figure out what that related to, but it wasn’t easy.
tune in to Alex, he has a guy on right now – from general from Pakistan.
I should have said, a General from Pakistan…
Alex’s guest on right now….
Saying that 300,000 gals of fuel per day is being used by the U.S. Gov in M.E. wars.
It’s a bit hard to understand this general from Pakistan, with his accent. It reminds me of friends we have here that we love dearly, but we struggle to understand them. They are so great about it, having to repeat just about everything they say.
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/uss-liberty-issue-proves-to-be-the-silver-bullet-as-powerful-zionist-group-runs-for-cover/
Prairie,
the USS Liberty story is a sad one for this nation. Remember that McCain(s)- John and father – have worked steadfastly to cover this one up!
Thanks for the link. I’ll check it out.
Check this out – propaganda at its finest. This is the brainwashing taking place on a massive scale to help forge the U.N.’s agenda of creating “Smart Growth Cities” for the serfs, allowing them more control over our lives. It never ends.
http://blog.smartgrowthamerica.org/2010/05/04/forget-homes-and-plastic-surgery-new-online-video-series-promotes-an-american-makeover/
Here’s a couple of links to articles on the other war that is going on simultaneously with the currency wars – the water wars.
Dr. Winn Parker spoke about these on his radio show last Sunday. We have heard little about them, but they are huge, especially given the big, big, picture. He said that China is willing to go to war over this.
Evidently there have been rumors “floating” around – sorry couldn’t help myself – about these dams being built for some time now. Finally, China reveals the truth. One of the rivers, the Brahmaputra River is names after an ancient and powerful Budda that existed 3,000 years before Christ. Parker went on to say, China holds 97% of the world’s minerals.
Now, you may wonder why this is important and how does this affect us? Well…water projections for the American dust bowl have been made and will be released soon. By 2020 we’ll spend an estimated $75-$100 BILLION a year worldwide to adapt for water availability. China made it a point last week to say to the U.S. “you CAN’T have this water.”
In the year 2020, China opens the giant dam of Brahmaputra River and tilts the balance of power over the Himalayan water supply from India and Pakistan. China will rule the Himalayan Mountains, which is why they took Taibet in the first place – over water.
This will weave into the other post I’m working on concerning the “determination” finalized in Congress last week on Action Item #20 of the UN Urban Environmental Accord (UEA). This means the U.N. now controls our water. Action Item #20 reads:
“Protect the ecological integrity of the city’s primary drinking water sources (i.e. aquifers, rivers, lakes, wetlands and associated eco-systems)”
They have several tricks up their sleeve as to how to ‘protect’ the water source. This is where it gets crazy.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/24/chinese-hydroengineers-propose-tibet-dam
http://ramkshrestha.wordpress.com/2010/07/21/china-and-india-race-for-dam/
Hmmm… Florida in 2000. Computer programmer testifies to creating software to rig elections.
http://www.wimp.com/votesoftware/
Here’s an article from Forbes on both the American Dust Bowl and the Water Wars….
I DON’T believe this propaganda on the lack of water. It is part of the lie of climate change, and has allowed the U.N. to grab our land and natural resources – your know because it seems our government doesn’t understand how to managed them.
You must remember that Agenda 21′s three primary tools is
• Phoney Environmentalism
• Global Warming (which has been proven to be a lie)
• Water Shortages & the Endangered Species Act that the newly formed National Ocean Council intends to exploit for all of these tools to their fullest extent. This council was formed by way of an executive order. Of course who heads up this newly formed council? John Holdren, the well known Eugenicist.
Remember The Clear Act a couple of threads back? Well, it contains a provision for the federal gov’t to spend $900 million a year to purchase PRIVATE land over the next 30 years – grand total of $27 Billion over 3 decades. You may ask what is this all about, as did I. It is about Agenda 21 Sustainable Development goals. That goal is to make 50% – did you get that? HALF of America will be made into Wildlands. These ‘Wildlands” will be off limits to humans. they will then herd people into “Smart Growth’ cities.
An article I think I posted on that same thread says that Less that 6% of America is considered developed – meaning with roads and buildings. No matter, the federal government is devoted to reducing these developed areas.
Same article indicates during Globalist, Bill Clinton’s, tenure on The Hill he authorized a study called “Gap Analysis” which identified all PRIVATELY owned land in America. This is the intended target for takeover by the federal government and UN Biosphere Reserves.
Keep in mind, NOWHERE in the Constitution does it give the federal government authority to regulate conservationism, forestry and wildlife. It give power to regulate ONLY the ten square miles in Washington, D.C., and places needful for buildings, forts, arsenals and dock yards.
Here’s the link again for the article on the fed land grab. Check out the colored map. The areas in red indicate the % of federally owned land (not necessarily indicating the area per se).
http://www.morphcity.com/home/78-the-clear-act-of-another-federal-land-grab
Then check out pages 18-19 of federally owned land in the U.S. This is from 2004, and I’m sure it’s grown considerably since. Look at pg 18/19 of the report for the power grab figures. Hell, it owns over 45% of the land in California. Astounding.
http://www.gsa.gov/graphics/ogp/Annual_Report__FY2004_Final_R2M-n11_0Z5RDZ-i34K-pR.pdf
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0927/special-report-china-india-dust-bowl-what-happens-next_2.html
Prairie,
yep. And that hearing went nowhere. I can’t remember all the details now, I posted a bit about it on a prior thread with the player’s names. Go figure.
CHINA TO PUT MORE RESERVES INTO GOLD
And so gold takes off, as the CRB index passes 300, with America blissfully unaware $100 oil and 20% U-6 unemployment is next, leading to a total collapse in the economy. The catalyst: Bloomberg reports China to put more reserves in gold. This time gold is flying even as the dollar is not getting crushed, implying that capital flows are not simply “gold on, dollar on.” The surge in gold is once again making relative stock gains for the day priced in gold negative. With nobody daring to actually short stocks on fear of random buy-ins (such as the one in IWM today) Gold continues to be the way to express a negative bias on stocks, and one which on a pair trade basis has been profitable on any historical horizon basis as gold’s “beta” is better than that of stocks.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/gold-surges-fresh-record-spot-136765-crb-passes-300
Don’t worry, I don’t understand everything in my above post either. LOL
I do wonder if the reporting about China being the catalyst is appropriate? Seems they are getting the blame for a lot of things. Didn’t we ship the jobs over there? …just sayin…
Regarding my post @4:32 on the Dust Bowl in America and the lack of water, let’s not forget the lengths they are going to to control the weather via through the use of aerosol spraying – evident from the chemtrails. If the truth be told, they are probably creating the drought – at the very least it’s a by product of their spraying.
I’ll let this sink in for a while. I have much more to post on the water issues.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/13/suppressed-history-hidden-facts-behind-the-wall-street-nazi-plot/
Helen, @Posted October 9, 2010 at 5:11
Video of Finkelstein – awesome!
AND the Video of Griffin – awesome! I remember when I posted an article on another site about the court records of the FBI admitting there was no data record of the call between Barbara Olsen and her husband. The admission in court is on record, yet some still hang on to it as thought it was THE truth. Showing the orange and telling us it’s an apple.
hey fix, nice to see ya. hope all is well.
New 911 film footage of WTC 7 from the FOIA requests of NIST – http://www.prisonplanet.com/new-911-footage-reveals-wtc-7-explosions.html
Because of the presupposed pending water shortage, you’ll be pleased to know that Congress has taken the necessary steps to ward off this crisis.
The document that was formalized this past week is their answer. A “determination” was signed to Action Item #20 on the UN UEA Agenda calls for a 10% reduction in our water usage by the year 2015. That 10% reduction will relegate each person to a mere 26 gals per day per person. This is for drinking, cooking, flushing the toilet, washing the dishes, laundry, bathing/showering, watering the yard/garden, etc.
AND to make sure you will be able to comply they also approved a list of some 26 ‘appliances’ to help achieve this goal. Toilets, faucets, shower heads, washers, dishwashers, etc…They are also advocating the use of RECYCLED water for some tasks. THIS is most concerning from a health perspective. I will post more about this tomorrow. Recycled water is the idea behind the initiative commonly referred to as “Toilet to Tap to Table.” Entire communities have sprung up as a model for the rest of us.
I couldn’t help but wonder who owned these companies, or sat on the boards of these companies that will supply these appliances. You’ll start to see this brand/label more and more “WaterSense.”
More on all of this still to come.
Helen,
thanks for posting that video of Ron Paul’s speech. The more I hear him the more I like him. We have to ask ourselves why he is the only one saying what he is saying.
I sure hope he considers running for president.
And…look NO TELEPROMPTERS!
THE POWER BEHIND SARAH PALIN – Michael Collins Piper video
There’s more than meets the eye to her meteoric rise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nc25zKxVo0&feature=player_embedded
Helen,
Ron Paul, a gifted and honourable person. That video should be posted far and wide.
JustMe,
I guess that video gives substance to what we have all been discussing. For those that promote her, first know what you are promoting.
video of Sarah Palin of course.
The dollar has just plummeted to 76.58. Currency war is escalating.
Of course hold onto your gold and silver, every last bit of it.
Venice @8:08 a.m.
Great words of wisdom, Venice, to all out there endorsing these celebs that spring up seemingly out of nowhere. “Know what you are promoting.”
I had a conversation with an old friend yesterday. I said, “boy I hope you bought some gold and silver.” She was silent, as if to be upset that I would bring it up. To which she replied, “I just can’t be worried with that. We’re debt free, invested in real estate AND….drum roll please…we’re in the market. That’s all we can do.” I did bite my tongue on this one.
Now, this is a long time friend, well educated, with whom I used to talk to about financial dealings & accumulating wealth, neither one of us believing the crap our financial advisors were telling us. Guess that all went out the window when she became a mommie.
It gets better. I find out her husband, who was a top notch salesman was laid off due to a merger, but quickly snatched up by a different company, hasn’t made a sale in close to two years. He sells data storage. My understanding is that it is a business where sales are few and far between and can take years to finalize. But….when you do make a sale it is one hell of a commission. She’s a writer and now back working full time and does quite well for herself. So, currently she is the bread winner of the family.
I said, “I hope someone in your family is ‘worrying’ about this, because it isn’t a matter of IF the dollar collapses, it’s a matter of WHEN.’ She stubbornly maintained she just couldn’t worry herself with that “stuff.” “And, besides I have a strong faith, and whatever happens happens — I know it will carry me through.” I wonder sometimes if folks get faith and sense that they were given mixed up.
Meanwhile, I’ve met a new friend that is shaking things up a bit here in this sleepy town of ours. She is very familiar with Agenda 21 and knows firsthand that our mayor has bought into this agenda. I’m feeding information to her and will assist and accompany her to met with members of the City Council and various other boards. Then we plan to tackle the issue of WATER.
Wow! Denial of reality is strong amongst many smarties, eh? Watch, she’ll wake up and tell you to buy gold b/c the dollar is plummeting as though she is alerting you. lol.
How’s that post coming along, woman?
I think we can put to bed any notion that “O’s” TRUE ideals that would be in the interest of American sovereignty, and the future of this nation are being squashed by those surrounding him. Consider it wishful thinking and nothing else.
I came across an article yesterday written by Tom DeWeese in July 15, 2008, about a bill that was on the fast track to Senate passage introduced by then freshman senator Obama. Get that? It was introduced BEFORE any of us had ever heard of him. This is key. Given his high profile position at the time as the expected Dem presidential nominee, they put this bill that would give away the power of our nation to the U.N. on the fast track!!! As the author said, it was very telling about what folks could expect from him as president.
The bill was called “Global Poverty Act” (S.2433). The bill was directly tied to the United Nations. Not the United States — The United Nations. The bill would have provided the U.N. with 0.7% of the U.S. gross national product. Wait….where have we heard that before?
We heard it a few weeks ago at the U.N. General Assembly. Obama left the White House with a document in hand with that EXACT commitment. Remember? Helen, had a thread up about it. It amounts to $845 BILLION – with a B – of taxpayer money for welfare to third world countries. This is in addition to the billions that, unbeknownst to me, spent for the same thing in 2006. What can I say. I was clueless then.
The Global Poverty Act passed the House by a *unanimous* voice vote on Sept. 25, 2007. The senate version had been passed out of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee by unanimous consent and was ready for a full Senate vote. Again, this was BEFORE he was even nominated to run and Congress was all over it.
Backing up a bit, in 1999 and 2000 non-governmental organizations (NGOs) held meetings around the globe to write what became known as the Charter for Global Democracy. We could probably name the top ten of these NGO’s fairly quickly now. This document was THE blueprint for achieving global governance, read loss of individual freedom, national sovereignty and limited government.
This Charter had 12 principles. Please take the time to read them. Many have come to fruition others are on their way. Read them here:
http://americanpolicy.org/united-nations/barack-obama-and-the-un’s-drive-for-global-governance.html
This Charter would give the UN domain over land, air and seas, which we’ve seen recently with the CLEAR Act and the LOST, a treaty that hung around for years unable to be approved and brought in through backdoor methods.
The name of the charter was changed, fearing it was too overt. At the UN Summit in 2000, then president Bill Clinton announced it would now be called the Millennium Declaration. They toned the language down a bit – but not the basic core of the charter. The 12 principles now became “goals” – Millennium Goals. All of these goals set to be on track for final accomplishment by 2015.
I’ve been focusing on the sustainability issues that include UN control of our water, but reading through the Principles, we should note that Principle Four should have been THE alarm that went off for these yahoos on The Hill and Principle Five and Six are very disturbing and nothing less than TREASONOUS !
• Principle Four – restructures the UN and eliminates the veto power and permanent member status on the Security Council. This would eliminate any U.S. influence and power in the world body. Calls for an “Assembly of the People” to become the new power of the UN – and it isn’t exactly what it sounds like. (you can read more about it)
• Principle Five provides for a standing UN army.
• Principle Six would require UN registration of all arms (this we’ve heard rumblings about for a while now) and the reduction of all national armies “as part of a multinational global security system” under the authority of the UN.
The author ends by saying it’s clear that Obama’s bill was introduced to assure the transfer of power and wealth of the United States of America to the United Nations, and that “Obama wants to be a ‘world leader.’”
We are well on our way of having achieved most of these Millennium Goals.
DeWeese has a number of articles that are well worth the read. Here is his main website.
http://www.americanpolicy.org
Helen,
I’ve been posting it in bits and pieces since yesterday. I decided to handle it that way because it has SO many legs. I wanted to get it out of my head and onto virtual paper. I still have much more to write.
I’ve followed the unfolding of the story. Will be putting all of the pieces together in one piece and posting under your user name.
Helen,
is it making sense? I wanted to make sure to lay the groundwork for it first in some kind of logical manner while at the same time weaving in current issues/happenings. I don’t know if that’s coming across. This last post was a biggie.
Helen,
I won’t hold my breath for her to wake up. We share little in common these days. I’m most sad about that. But, such is life. In many relationships one person grows and the other one doesn’t, or lags behind.
My only hope is that one day she’ll be thankful for the hard work of the patriot movement that will have allowed her to continue on her daily life as usual and not be “worried about that stuff.” It’s kinda like someone living on welfare… i digress…
Helen,
how’s your research going? Any updates on your front?
It does. I’m following it and makes perfect sense to me.
As we know we are not alone in this loss of our national sovereignty to the U.N. We would suspect our neighbors to the north and south of us would also be working toward these same Principles, aka Millennium Development Goals (MDGs). A quick search provided these two sites. Canada and Mexico are, of course, players in the U.N. GLOBAL GOVERNANCE agenda.
Canada’s role in UN Millennium Development Goals:
http://www.8goals.ca/site/canadasrole
Mexico’s role in UN Millennium Development Goals:
http://www.indexmundi.com/mexico/millennium-development-goals.html
I also found this interesting site concerning Mexico. In developing countries, the UN is targeting the youth, given the stats that 85% of the world’s one billion people between 15 and 24 live in developing countries. But, it looks like there was some ill will concerning a statement put forth by the NGOs (non-government orgs) about abortion that Mexico didn’t take a liking to during the August, 2010 World Youth Conference.
EXCERPT frm press release at above link:
Part of the reason for the reluctance of the government of Mexico to listen to NGOs and Governments present in Leon was a strong NGO Statement developed during the two days before the governments met. More than 200 NGO representatives from all continents debated and voted over a statement that was presented to the governments before their negotiations started. “The NGO statement took a stand on abortion and LGBTTIQ issues, which was not very welcomed. One can agree or disagree with the statement and we understand that these are controversial issues in Mexico – but one cannot invite for youth participation and then try to censor the results. One can ask if Mexico was mature enough to actually host a World Youth Conference”, says Grønstad, who has been part of the Social Forum Organising Committee. As a result of the positions in the outcome document, the invitation for NGO delegates to present their conclusions to the Legislators Forum in Mexico City was *cancelled* by the Mexican Parliamentarians.
JM – what a story. fires, the Governor dying midterm due to a fire, the legislative printer being mysteriously replaced in 1812, a new Governor whose home burned down, a war and so much more. lots of intrigue but following the trail. and it’s a fascinating trail to follow.
OOPS – above post should read:
during the August, 2010, World Youth Conference. NOT 2020.
so Mexico’s Parliament disagreed with the conclusion of the “outcome document” and therefore cancellled the Forum? do I have this correct?
PS 2020 has been corrected to 2010
Helen,
they didn’t cancel the forum, they were just not allowed to present their conclusions. Of course, they were accusing them of not being “mature enough” to host this youth forum. I haven’t read the document, but…knowing that Mexico is predominately Catholic and the issue of abortion was brought up, well…..
Helen,
looks like I didn’t include the link for the Mexico youth forum. Here it is.
http://www.youthforum.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=843%3Ayouth-is-key-to-achieve-the-millennium-development-goals&catid=28%3Acurrent-users&Itemid=89&lang=en
Helen, I’m getting to this later, but abortion and sterilization can be achieved easily through other covert means such as vaccines and chemicals put in drinking water.
This has been done and is currently being done to our water. This is why it is important to “get” who is the co-council of the newly formed National Ocean Council by way of Executive Order – John Holdren – a known Eugenicist, who is “O’s” Science and Technology Czar. His advocating sterilization by way of using infertility drugs in the drinking water and food, as well as, forced abortions is described in his book written some time ago titled, “EcoScience.”
REAL TIME – here’s PROOF of what I’m talking about – headline on Drudge
‘DUAL FLUSH’ TOILETS AMONG CONSERVATION PROPOSALS OK’D BY COUNCIL
NEW YORK — Number one, or number two?
Under a LAW passed by the City Council today, new toilets will have to be high water efficient or “dual-flush,” which allow users to choose between a high pressure flush for solid waste, and a low-pressure flush for liquid.
The law, which significantly changes the city plumbing code starting July 2012, applies the same strict water efficiency standards to plumbing fixtures like shower heads, urinals and sink faucets.
http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/10/dual_flush_toilets_among_conse.html
So, you say, okay big deal. This dual flush toilet makes sense, and it does. But…does it make sense to pass laws that will require MORE spending to retrofit buildings/homes to new plumbing codes at a time when the unemployment rate is skyrocketing and people are scrambling to put food on the table?
We ain’t seen nothing yet….
put some of that fire into your next post, woman!
Prairie,
wondering how you are…been a little quiet lately. Of course, I’ve been hogging the blog, too.
bbl and yes, Prairie, how are you doing?
Helen, Prairie, Venice, et al
I finally received Joan Veon’s book titled Prince Charles, The Sustainable Prince, along with 3 other videos of hers. I randomly opened the book, as I so frequently do for the fun of it, and landed on the page about another global endeavor – world religion. I’ve posted here before about his Pagan alliance, believing in the creation – earth – and not the creator.
Of course, this is the driving force behind the sustainability b.s. that is quickly enveloping our nation and eroding our sovereignty.
As I’m reading it struck me….THIS is why “O” made it a point in his acceptance speech to include all religions, and why he appointed a Muslim woman to his “Faith Based Council.” Worrying about Sharia Law should be the least of our worries. The United Nation’s plan is for a “WORLD RELIGION.”
Just keeps getting better and better, doesn’t it?
Watching Veon’s video on the Financial Crisis of 2008 – get this.
We invaded Iraq and guess what they got as a result? A CENTRAL BANK. (a critical part of globalization.)
Enough said.
Because this bill was introduced in a previous session of Congress, no more action can occur on it.
See S. 2433 [110th] on THOMAS for the official source of information on this bill or resolution.
Overview
Sponsor:
Sen. Barack Obama [D-IL]show cosponsors (30)
Cosponsors [as of 2009-01-09]
Sen. Amy Klobuchar [D-MN]
Sen. Robert Menéndez [D-NJ]
Sen. Jeff Bingaman [D-NM]
Sen. Susan Collins [R-ME]
Sen. Richard Lugar [R-IN]
Sen. Benjamin Cardin [D-MD]
Sen. Maria Cantwell [D-WA]
Sen. Barbara Boxer [D-CA]
Sen. Joseph Biden [D-DE]
Sen. Debbie Ann Stabenow [D-MI]
Sen. Russell Feingold [D-WI]
Sen. John Kerry [D-MA]
Sen. Richard Durbin [D-IL]
Sen. Barbara Mikulski [D-MD]
Sen. Charles Schumer [D-NY]
Sen. Herbert Kohl [D-WI]
Sen. Christopher Dodd [D-CT]
Sen. Jim Webb [D-VA]
Sen. Thomas Harkin [D-IA]
Sen. Sherrod Brown [D-OH]
Sen. Hillary Clinton [D-NY]
Sen. Olympia Snowe [R-ME]
Sen. Robert Casey [D-PA]
Sen. Patty Murray [D-WA]
Sen. Charles Hagel [R-NE]
Sen. Dianne Feinstein [D-CA]
Sen. Tim Johnson [D-SD]
Sen. Gordon Smith [R-OR]
Sen. Ron Wyden [D-OR]
Sen. Frank Lautenberg [D-NJ]
Cosponsorship information sometimes is out of date. Why?
Text:
Summary | Full Text
Status:
Not Yet Occurred: Voted on in Senate (did not occur)
Not Yet Occurred: Voted on in House (did not occur)
Not Yet Occurred: Signed by President (did not occur)
This bill never became law. This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven’t passed are CLEARED FROM THE BOOKS. Members often reintroduce bills that did not come up for debate under a new number in the next session.
http://concealed.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/obamas-senate-bill-s2433-global-poverty-act/
JJ,
Thank you so much for clarifying the status of the bill. I left that hanging out there.
The concern is, the need to be alert as to exactly *how* he plans to achieve this goal, AND knowing it is part of the Millennium Declaration Goals to be achieved. We are well on our way to 2015.
We must be on guard!
h/t JS
I find the above interchange on this show enlightening. What is elucidating is Bill O’Reilly and his attempting to convince the masses the old tired 911 meme – the muslims did it. We know the facts tell an entirely different story. Thus, the two women who got up and walked out spoke volumes to the public about this false meme. Would love to interview both women to learn more about their knowledge of all who was truly behind this greatest of tragedies that set all of America on the miserable course we’re on. Folks need to understand, IMHO, that 911 was the beginning of truly implementing the diabolical and tyrannical NWOrder plan. Until good people can accept this horrible undertaking by our government can be understood as part of the bigger plan, we will continue to be divided by the truth. Let’ hope we can all arrive at that painful place and help those who accept it, out of the matrix that has them caught b/w the two worlds. Peace.
The post above is critical to let constituents in those states know what their senators are sponsoring..if this bill resurfaces.
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/DXY/charts?countryCode=US&submitted=true&intflavor=advanced&origurl=%2Ftools%2Fquotes%2Fintchart.asp&time=5&freq=1&comp=Enter%20Symbol%28s%29%3A&compidx=aaaaa~0&compind=aaaaa~0&uf=7168&ma=1&maval=50&lf=1&lf2=4&lf3=0&type=2&size=1&optstyle=1013
Look at this 60 day index of the dollar and tell me it isn’t CONTROLLED demolition just like the twin towers.
Expect the dollar to continue to fall more or less until the elections. After that is anybody’s guess as to the path of its eventual total destruction.
I feel better now, don’t you?
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Breaking News Alert: Federal Reserve prepared to take new action to boost the economy, chairman Bernanke says
October 15, 2010 8:28:16 AM
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The Federal Reserve is prepared to take new action to boost the economy, its chairman, Ben S. Bernanke, said Friday morning, because inflation has been too low of late and unemployment is poised to come down too slowly.
The Fed’s policymaking committee “is prepared to provide additional accommodation if needed to support the economic recovery and to return inflation over time to levels consistent with our mandate,” Bernanke said in prepared remarks.
For more information, visit washingtonpost.com
http://www.infowars.com/u-s-troops-to-deal-with-rioting-americans/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unYGlVeLzcA – baby Cheyenne rushed to the hospital yesterday with vaginal bleeding.
Part 2 of Cheyenne’s update – apparently the police have taken custody away from Child Protective Services http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkSoyHE1brE&NR=1
those two videos were from last night, good news, John Irish’s daughter is returned home! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WciiXVEJvsQ
Helen,
thanks for the updates on John Irish and his newborn daughter. I listened a bit yesterday as it was unfolding. It was harrowing to say the least. I can’t imagine going through something like that. It was encouraging to know he used the power of his Sheriff to gain control of his daughter. The judge that issued that order based on such flimsy information should be removed from the bench!
The Sheriff is probably our last bastion of hope. He answers to NO ONE. He has more power than any police captain or their underlings. My husband just received a copy of Sheriff Mack’s book and video. It looks like it will be a real eye opener.
Sheriff Mack suggests buying his book and video and gifting it to your county Sheriff. I believe he is also touring presenting this info to Sheriffs.
We have to beat them at their game – “think globally – act locally” just took on a whole other meaning!
I find this whole trauma so sad for the Irish’s and their daughter Cheyenne. Did you hear CPS’ excuse? They confused the two different John Irish’s! Give me a break. How stupid are these people and how stupid do they think we are?
JJ,
again, thanks for posting the info on the bill. I doubt it will resurface as a “bill.” As I understand it, all items have been and are being accomplished through other means, i.e. treaties, accords, councils, executive orders, declarations and under the auspices of the “Green” movement; sustainability and GLOBAL whatever.
Additionally, we need to keep our eye on what Bill Clinton’s foundation is doing. Through his foundation he is forging his own GLOBAL INITIATIVE that follows exactly what the U.N. is doing. And, how convenient that his wife, HellCAT, is in the position she is in to help further the agenda of GLOBALIZATION, destroying our nation’s sovereignty and handing it over to the U.N. The Clinton Foundation’s annual meeting with NGOs, CEO’s of corporations and leaders from around the globe gathered in the same city at the same time as the recent United Nations General Assembly. Clinton’s foundation is ALL about redistributing wealth – in its many forms which include natural resources.
Here’s the link to Bill’s website.
http://www.clintonglobalinitiative.org/
Take a look at what he’s doing in Haiti. They already have the “greenies” there rebuilding communities.
CIA declassified document shows the plan to use UFO’s as psychological warfare both in and outside the US http://www.wanttoknow.info/ufos/19520907_flying_saucers_cia_document_declassified
found this comment over at Rumormill News and thought I’d bring it over to see what venice and Doug think-
(Thanks, T.
Reader Tom writes:
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Hobie,
Was piecing some things together with the gold prices and I remember a story some time ago…maybe over a year now that the IMF was dumping all their gold…I think the price was rising and I couldn’t understand why a ‘business’ would dump all their gold.
Never really got any good explanation as to why…well with most things (like when Bush stopped the Oil contracts we had to keep oil prices under $30 a barrel) we learn why years later…and I do think there is a connection why he stopped the contracts and the happenings with gold (About the oil contracts…in or about to start a war…why raise the cost of it by stopping the contracts…I remember it was a blip in the news and NO ONE questioned why)
Ok…so back to the gold issue and the IMF. I will put this out to your readers to see if they see a connection or if they can make sense of it.
Two days ago there was an article that 400 banks want IMF to create or manage a One World Currency so they weren’t pegged to the dollar (which we all know is doomed and worthless). I found this odd and then I remembered that the IMF methodically was selling all their gold.
Simple logic…IF the IMF had a lot of gold and they were to create a One World currency…no one would be able to get the new currency unless they had gold (assuming they peg it to gold).
So I think this is WHY the IMF dumped their gold…THEY knew it was coming back to them when people/companies turned in their gold for the new currency. They knew all along they were going to be the managers of the One World Currency.
The light bulb went off for me when this article hit the internet and I hope I explained my logic well enough and would be curious what the readers think about it who ‘follow the money’.
TEA PARTIERS AND THE KOCH BROTHERS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjWa8hg-Erk&feature=player_embedded#!
Max Keiser on Alex – Gotta love Mad Max – talking about GOLD and a new wrinkle in the currency war, China vs the U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDmMbdJdjTs&feature=player_embedded
*****NEW POST – Deliberately Engineered Economic Collapse in USA Leading to Martial Law****
Hi Helen,
In response to the above post:
http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/facts/gold.htm
and
http://goldnews.bullionvault.com/gold_imf_101520104
It doesn’t look like the IMF is ready to sell any where near the amount of gold it holds.
But note that the U.S. holds the highest percentage of votes, thereby ensuring that it gets its way. Also note that it holds the second largest amount of gold in the world and the U.S. is first. Don’t know if you recall the amounts held by different countries I posted earlier. This is of course on the assumption that there is gold at Fort Knox and/or it isn’t tungsten instead.
So as to the argument upstairs, it appears the facts don’t support it.
Helen,
Check your spam. It holds my reply to the above.
venice and Doug, thank you for your responses. Both make a great deal of sense and answer the question posed well.
I also question whether Ft. Knox holds the gold we once truly owned. Ron Paul I believe is asking for an audit of our gold stock. Don’t forget, we also hold gold at Ft. Hood, TX. Still it would be a good idea to do a complete inventory of what the US has in these vaults AND make sure it is not tungsten.
Hey Doug, your welcome. Thank you.