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The Corbett Report and Episode 156 of ForeclosureGate w/Celente and Chapman

Posted by helen

Happy Sunday Evening, folks. Tonight the Corbett Report talks about RFID chips, oligarchical smart cards for all future banking transactions, Alawaki and the Dead Osama Bin Laden (died in 2001 from complications to liver cancer in Dubai), and Officer Bubbles lawsuit following the G8/G20 convention in Toronto Canada earlier this year. As always, Mr. Corbett is spot on and delivers “REAL” news to you the public. Bother yourselves to watch and learn…puhleeze.

Click below to listen to Episode 156th Episode of Mr. Corbett’s more in-depth interviews w/Gerald Celente and Bob Chapman about the growing ForeclosureGate drama. Mr. Corbett provides unedited airtime to both economists who detail precisely what is happening and what is going to be happening. No. They do not have a crystal ball. They, like many others, know how the WASHINGTON DC CORPORATION is going to treat this MASSIVE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY and if you wish to bother yourselves to listen and learn, you too will know.

 

Listen to more of Corbett Report by clicking here.

Peace,
Helen

312 Comments

  1. Posted October 24, 2010 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    I love Bob Chapman. He is an outstanding and effective teacher. Gerald and Max are great to but Bob explains things in such an easy to understand manner.

  2. JustMe
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    did you remember that Chapman and Eustace Mullins were good friends? I love him for that alone.

    Haven’t listened yet, but will. Trying to cool down from my workout.

  3. Posted October 24, 2010 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    I didn’t know that. This explains why I love Bob so much. Both Eustace and Bob are teacher’s willing to share their intel/info with anyone and everyone if it helps make a difference, which it always did and always does. Thanks for sharing that tidbit with me.

    Now, cool down, drink some of that fresh water of yours and tune in. As always, James has much to report. His podcast – 156 – Foreclosuregate is awesome!!!

  4. Posted October 24, 2010 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    Update of the Gulf of Mexico w/Dr. Riki Ott

  5. JustMe
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    thanks – excellent vid on Riki Ott. I was just wondering what the status was in the Gulf and now I know.

  6. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 7:33 am | Permalink

    MORE ON FORECLOSURE GATE

    Remember the “virtual” shell company — they have no employees and no street address or physical location — that was created to act as a conduit for these securitized mortgages to be run through in order to make them “investor safe?” Well, looks like they owe California a pretty hefty sum of unpaid land recording fees. The scope of this scam is massive, the likes of which we “ain’t seen nothing yet.”

    Snipped:

    “In creating MERS, these institutions actually changed the land-title system that this country – for much of its history – has relied upon to determine legal ownership status of land titleholders.

    Not only did the lenders sidestep (read that to mean avoid) paying billions of dollars in fees to local governments, they paid themselves from the fees that MERS collected.

    MERS is facing class-action lawsuits and civil racketeering suits around the country and their members are being individually named in all these suits. One suit alleges that MERS owes California a potential $60 billion to $120 billion in unpaid land-recording fees.

    If suits against MERS and all its members are successful, unpaid recording fees and fines (that can be as much as $10,000 per incident) would make every one of them insolvent.”

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/10/lawsuit-alleges-that-mers-owes.html

  7. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 8:05 am | Permalink

    MORE TRAGIC STORIES FROM THE GULF OIL DISASTER -

    Found this article on Washingtonsblog with links to yet more articles on the aftermath of the disaster. The CoreExit9500 is literally a killing machine and it’s still rolling. It’s unfathomable to me that this chemical was allowed to be used at all, much less in the quantities reported. WTH????

    This is being covered up and handled in the manner it is being handled because of Prince Charles’ agenda. Knowing his direct ties to BP, it was/is greatly feared that this disaster could bring his global plan to a screeching halt. The timing of it couldn’t have been worse for him either. Just as he was ratcheting up the message of how human beings are destroying this planet and knowing that we will be judged according to our “carbon footprint” as to whether or not we will receive medical care under the new health care bill, this disaster of such a magnitude happens. Doesn’t bode well for him, the U.N. or others. That’s why they HAD to cover it up the way they did. And, by the way, this is all written into the current healthcare bill, just as laws governing your “water footprint” is, which I’ll write more on later. Dr. Parker discussed it on his show yesterday.

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/10/gulf-oil-spill-still-crisis.html

    Each bullet point in the main article (link above) is a link through to the main article covering the point.

    Ongoing coverage here:
    http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com

  8. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    LOVE THIS – I printed this quote out and put it up as a reminder – of many thing…

    “America is being brainwashed by the mainstream media into believing there is a gold bubble. The truth is, the public in 2010 has purchased $2.7 billion worth of gold and $155 billion worth of bonds. Which one do you think is a bubble?” ~ National Inflation Institute

  9. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    Interesting read – I don’t know if this has been posted or not. If so, my apologies for duplication. If not, then enjoy!

    WHY THE IMF MEETINGS FAILED
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig11/hudson-m2.1.1.html

    Jim Willie’s (Golden JackAss) comments about above article:

    “Capital controls are coming to the United States. The QE2 program has frightened a wide spectrum of investors and businesses. Speculative money is leaving the US, not only avoid implosion and currency debasement, but to go where trade friction and hostile policy play less. The USGovt must slow the tide of money exiting.”

  10. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    HERE’S A SMOKING GUN for you…a judge preparing to leave his post a the CFTC (Commodity Futures Trading Comm) admits to a secret agreement with the only other judge working with him to NEVER rule in favor of the pro se complainants.

    “The CFTC oversees trading of the nation’s most important commodities, including oil, gold and cotton. The agency’s administrative law judges handle cases in which investors allege that trading professionals or financial firms violated the rules.”

    Wendy Gramm, then chairwoman of the CFTC, was the recipient of this secret vow. Wendy is the former Texas Senator Phil Gramm’s wife.

    “The CFTC oversees trading of the nation’s most important commodities, including oil, gold and cotton. The agency’s administrative law judges handle cases in which investors allege that trading professionals or financial firms violated the rules.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/19/AR2010101907216.html?referrer=emailarticle

    IMHO, This man should NOT be allowed to retire quietly. He should be prosecuted.

  11. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    Another link to an article on the scandal of the CFTC. Unbelievable corruption at the highest level.

    The Honorable Bruce Levine – hmmmm….that’s a nice sounding Muslim name, hey?

    http://www.thedailybell.com/1461/Retiring-CFTC-Judge-We-Covered-Up-Market-Manipulation.html

  12. Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Good Morning, all,

    go to benjaminfulford.net and read his update. it’s open to the public to read. your thoughts?

  13. Posted October 25, 2010 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    read the first two posts.

  14. Posted October 25, 2010 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    Here we go –

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/insider-selling-buying-surpasses-1400-1

  15. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    HEADS UP – looks like Lindsey Williams is back on Alex’s show today to finish up. Dare we listen? lol

  16. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    More and more information points in the same direction. Appears more and more that many people have been working for a long time to expose the cabal and free us from the fiat system. Looks like our ghost is more than a lone nutjob in his mother’s basement typing about a conspiracy theory. I pray light will beat out darkness.

  17. Posted October 25, 2010 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    I found this interesting comment at Fulford’s blog. Thought I’d bring it over –

    November may be an explosive month. We have the Chinese-German-Russian-Arab billionaire attack on the London Bullion Commodity Exchange forcing them to physically deliver gold they, apparently, don’t have enough of. There are admissions that the exchange has been complicit in suppressing gold prices. Hence, the Fed is scurrying to come up with the gold or default. Meantime China is no longer buying T-Bills and is actively selling them. The Fed is continuing quantitative easing despite complaints by China & other countries who own trillions of US dollars. Bob Woodward (CIA) who helped dispose of tricky Dick Nixon appears to be attempting to do the same to Obama. Meanwhile negative articles are being written about Obama’s depression and poor mental state and disinterest in politics, suggesting some sort of conspiracy to get rid of him, which fits in with what Ben is writing.

    Atop of all that we have 1400-1 insider selling to buying on the stock market and talk that the plunge protection team is holding it up at least until after the election which segueways with Clif High’s prediction of a catastrophic even after the election. Also, we have the highly accurate Lindsey Williams saying oil is going back up to $150-$200/barrel which dovetails with OPECs recent announcement they want oil at $100/barrel now…

  18. Posted October 25, 2010 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    Prairie – I think you are right about our source. He/she is what many refer to as a “mole” a “plant” to expose information that is factually based w/hints of what’s to come. And I cannot begin to tell you how much I hope you and others are spot on when you state “many people have been working for a long time to expose the and free us from the fiat system.” Others, many others are echoing such sentiments. It gives my heart lots of hope. Lots of hope.

  19. Posted October 25, 2010 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    fix posted this over at Fulford’s and thought we’d benefit –

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/24/gordon-duff-gadahn-call-to-attack-americans-comes-from-israel/

    “Israeli terrorist “clones” are responsible for most hard line rhetoric, threats and, if we investigated closely, have actually recruited terrorists and directly inspired, if not planned and executed, attacks on Americans…Gadahn is part of it, so is Wikileaks”

    A call to arms, demanding Muslims in America and elsewhere begin a terror campaign, was spread around the world. The message, we are told, was found on a “secret website” by an Israeli company who put it in a press release.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/24/the-israel-lobby-targeting-democrats-for-election-day-defeat-2/

    By MJ Rosenberg — The fury of the “pro-Israel” lobby lately has truly been something to behold.

    It has abandoned bipartisanship by setting up front organizations like the so-called Emergency Committee for Israel, which is running ads across the country calling on voters to defeat Democratic members of the House and Senate for signing a letter urging President Obama to address the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/25/jeffrey-blankfort-israel-is-the-most-immediate-threat-to-the-future-of-the-planet/
    Jeffrey Blankfort is an American photojournalist, radio producer and Middle East analyst. He currently hosts radio programs on KZYX in Mendocino, CA and KPOO in San Francisco. Blankfort was formerly the editor of the Middle East Labor Bulletin and co-founder of the Labor Committee of the Middle East.
    In February 2002,
    he won a lawsuit against the
    Zionist organization Anti-Defamation League (ADL)
    which was found to have been spying
    on the American citizens critical of Israel and its expansionistic policies.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/25/jim-condit-jr-the-strangest-political-secret/
    My congressional campaign at http://www.TheRestOfTheStory2010.com is devoting our “radio ads campaign” to making known the 1967 attack on USS Liberty. The significance of what happened to the USS Liberty in 1967 holds the key to current attacks against our “Ship of State” in 2010.)

  20. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    Gives me hope as well. Go over to RumorMill and read Poof’s lates update. I have followed her for a while and Casper refers to her. Follow the links she provides. P.S. Both Casper and Poof have always denied being part of RAP…

  21. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Want to hear what my overactive imagination has been thinking? Remember reading from BioSphere about the implant in the heart of the Japanese leader? What about the scar on Barky’s head? Just crazy thougths.

  22. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Lindsey is on Alex’s show right now. He spoke again to Mr. X over the weekend. He has two weeks or less to live. Lindsey has vowed to let it all rip when that happens. Alex is pushing him to do it now. Lindsey is in rare form today. You can tell he is really worried about what’s coming.

    http://www.infowars.com

  23. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Just tuned in, thanks for the heads up.

  24. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    He keeps emphasizing to get CASH out of the bank and keep it in your house. Referred to the total number of banks closed this year and the fact they closed several over this past weekend. He is marrying that with Napolitano’s warning to have 6 mos of food/water stored in your house and the cyberattack that’s planned.

    He is also very upset that after the elections Congress has it on their docket for another bailout $2-$7 trillion for the mortgage back securities. He keeps saying he wants to scream this from the rooftop “Don’t let them do it.”

  25. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    you should be feeling pretty proud of yourself and the fact you have stocked the pantry after hearing what Lindsey is saying.

  26. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Buy a camper is my advise.

  27. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Since my house is not paid for and I don’t have gold, I think I will head to town for more food. The more food, the better I feel. Don’t forget the dog food. We could live in the camper, fish, and eat beans. Peanutbutter by the bucket.

  28. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    Listening. Tell everyone you know to get money out of the bank AND money out of stocks, except mining stocks. The latter might pull back some for a short while but will then soar.

  29. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    Yes, I’m going to get more food, too, this week. Great idea about the camper.

  30. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    I hope many are reading and TAKING IN.

  31. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    Add to this urgent message to get cash, food and water make sure you have b/up of routine meds and stock up on any over the counter things you take routinely, including things you might find in a first aid kit.

  32. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    I have a crazy friend (imagine that) called Preacher Man (he loads his art show in an old Bible camp bus.) He told me to stock up on toilet paper of all things. He said it will be valuable for trading. According to Preacher those who have campers will live like kings. All we have is a small pop up, but it sleeps all 5 of us.

  33. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    Short of water, food and shelter, there is nothing more urgently needed than toilet paper. Of course there are always leaves, but…

  34. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Venice,
    I can’t buy gold…but ammo may be the next best investment, no?

  35. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    no that’s not crazy. TP is exactly what all the survival books say, too, to stock up on.

    I’ll should drag one of the books down and type a list of the barter items they recommend. Another one was cigarettes. But, I would have a really hard time with that one.

    I don’t know why Lindsey can’t see that “respecting” this guy is disrespecting the American people. Mr. X, as far as I’m concerned can burn in hell. Sorry, but who in their right mind would respect an evil doer like this?

  36. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    I’m sick to my stomach, again. And, I had just recovered from Lindsey’s deliverance last week, too. Ugh!

  37. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone remember normal? Get seeds!

  38. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    Take every penny you have and go buy all the silver you can muster. Forget the jewellery for now. It’ll be more valuable in raw form.

    From what I’ve read, ammo is the second best thing, next to precious metals. I’ll be interested to hear what Lindsey says on this.

    You should also consider seeds. Another are batteries. If cyberwar breaks out electricity will be the first to go.

  39. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Ah, you beat me to it.

  40. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    I agree, what the hell does Lindsey know? Mr. X must be holding out a key piece until the end and Lindsey must be between a rock and a hard place…this is how he sounds.

  41. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    Vencice, what about bills? Should I worry about running a balance and stocking up debt or just say screw it and buy more silver?

  42. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    It seems the most imminent threat are for those invested in the market. There will be a repeat of 2008, perhaps more seriously.

    This will be followed by mideast turmoil. This could be cyberspace war. Though few lives will be implicated, the wide reaching effects will be more serious.

    There is time folks to prepare. Do it systematically and thoroughly. While things appear likely, please remember nothing is written in stone. It is what you’re supposed to believe. Remember fear is truly their weapon. As Alex states, not every elite is on board. There are many possibilities here.

  43. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Read up on the anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, and anti-viral properties of coconut oil. It keeps for years, works for hair, skin, and is edible and packed with nutrients. Just sayin’.

  44. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    You will need water, heat, electricity. I would suggest spending the rest on silver, but I don’t know all the particulars of your situation. This is just a guideline.

  45. Posted October 25, 2010 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    JM – print that list please. If anyone has any survival preparation tips please post. I was working with Silvia who posts at WMR, a survior of the Balkans War, and we put together a list. However, she has it and my pc is still being repaired from the hard drive crash. Let me see if I can find her over at WMR’s and have her send me the post. be back in a minute. h

  46. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    Have you seen this….
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=185757

  47. Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    Yes, Prairie, go over to Ben’s site benjaminfulford.net and read the entire post. ignore the second post just focus on the first one. ben is reworking his subscription service and is now posting his full articles to the public. You just can’t comment. Not certain how it’s all going to work but he’s gotta plan. For now, today’s post is up and free to the public. Read the whole thing and let me know your thoughts. thx, h

  48. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    PrairiePosted October 25, 2010 at 1:08 pm | Permalink
    Want to hear what my overactive imagination has been thinking? Remember reading from BioSphere about the implant in the heart of the Japanese leader? What about the scar on Barky’s head? Just crazy thougths.

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I’ve been thinking that way lately about the scar–an implant for control??? his anger outbursts a side effect???..it’s entirely possible with advances in technology we don’t even dream about.

    I also heard Lindsay Williams say two of his acquaintances with cancer used different approaches…one here and one in Mexico…guess which one recovered and which one is dead in two weeks!!!

  49. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    He is also very upset that after the elections Congress has it on their docket for another bailout $2-$7 trillion for the mortgage back securities. He keeps saying he wants to scream this from the rooftop “Don’t let them do it.”

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    What a naive statement from one who should be informed…we screamed from the rooftops about TARP and the fraud healthcare…did it make a difference??

  50. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    venicePosted October 25, 2010 at 1:48 pm | Permalink
    Listening. Tell everyone you know to get money out of the bank AND money out of stocks, except mining stocks. The latter might pull back some for a short while but will then soar
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    They won’t listen…we haven’t kept money in the bank for a few years, for about 3.

    But this has alarmed me so, I just cancelled Netflix, my only splurge, and I’m going to take out the $100 I deposited to take care of that for 5 months.

    I hear what this man is saying and have had food for 2 years…no problem there…what cash we have is in the closet and now I’m adding property taxes to it—they’re not getting paid..

    Like maybe God was sheltering me when I found the Sheriff’s office door locked???

    I feel this is serious enough to say screw the taxes.

  51. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    The entire piece falls into what Casper has been saying…right down to the 6,000 patents. Futhermore, Poof has been posting about free energy. This goes back to Tesla. Who my husband as an RF engineer denies invented anything extraordinary- he is a fool…but I did not argue with him. Black Dragon Society and all is what I have been spinning in my mind trying to figure out for over a year now. Tying this all together is very exciting but scary. I guess it comes down to this…are you ready to make the leap? Makes me wonder about all of the alien, ufo, and et information connected with this. I am very leary do to operation Blue Beam.

  52. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    Just had a thought…I sit around and listen to the BS at Bible study wanting to scream what I know and feel I need to share…

    But??? What if all those old fogies have food stocked and I’m not privy to any info..

    Nahhhh…they don’t even know what a Tea party is!!!! They’re going to starve!!

  53. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    venicePosted October 25, 2010 at 2:06 pm | Permalink
    Prairie,

    Short of water, food and shelter, there is nothing more urgently needed than toilet paper. Of course there are always leaves, but…

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I bet not one of you have extra garbage bags to line your toilets with so not to need to flush??
    Then do you have lime to put over the discarded garbage bags buried in the ground??

    This is one factor that is as important as toothpaste for every house that’s prepared will be using garbage bags and throwing them where??
    Yep, right next door to your yard!!

  54. Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    To be candid Prairie, I don’t know what to make of it all. One minute Benjamin refers to the Black Dragon Society yet in the next breath he refers to a White Dragon Society. Up until a year ago I didn’t even know such societies were real. I always believed them to be college centered clubs not grown men sitting in robes bowing to Madek the Owl. I mean c’mon, this is crazy chit. I’d like to think I’m a pretty normal, sound and mentally stable person and compared to all these secret society folks, I am, so it’s hard for me who finally confesses that I’m NORMAL to the world to believe or accept half of what these secret society yahoo’s have to say. Am I making sense?

    Given all of that, I’ll add that Benjamin was loathed by Christopher and I think I’ve figured out why. Not that I did any analyzing but just gave some thought to oddities b/w these two geopolitical financial investigators.

  55. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    Did you feel Story was for or against the Queen? That has bothered me cause I don’t know?

  56. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    JJ

    I have PLENTY of trash bags for that reason. I even have buckets that fit a toilet seat AND disinfectant for it.

  57. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    JJ,
    I have been saving all of my bags since you mentioned it months ago. Never thought of lime, thank you.

  58. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    I’m behind, looks like you’ve all been busy.

  59. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    . Another are batteries. If cyberwar breaks out electricity will be the first to go.
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I have oil lamps–2 of them and lots of oil.

    Coleman camper and lots of fuel for them.

    Look, we aren’t by survival standards prepared..

    BUT DAMN IT–WE WON’T FREEZE (JUST FILLED THE PROPANE TANK) WE WON’T STARVE (HAVE ENOUGH FOOD FOR ABOUT A YEAR) AND WE HAVE GUNS/AMMO TO DEFEND IT.

    And I can sell the food in the freezer if I have to before it thaws.

    (Dear God, if the SHTF, thank you for not providing the means to get that half beef we ordered)

  60. Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    Story believed and wrote again and again, that the Dollar Refund Programme dollars came from China and the Queen. Right?

    Fulford, Casper Intel and Poofness counter Story’s work by stating it’s the precise opposite and that the Prosperity Packages belong and have always belonged to the American people.

    Who do I believe. Well, I think there are morsels of truth b/w all of what these folks share which is why it is so hard to discern the truth.

    However, Story posted factual documents, letters and provided first source testimony to support his allegations, whereas Fulford, Casper Intel and Poofness share the questionable NESARA legislation. The article you linked us to on the background of NESARA told the entire story w/first source documentation which for the first time made me think, aha, there may very well be some truth to all of this.

    So who knows – I take what makes sense from both and all other sources and attempt to make some sense out of it. Bio Sphere has added to my understanding greatly b/c he sources.

    And you are 100% right, Tesla’s patents were stolen by the PTB. One of those patents was how to make electricity free. Your hubbie is jaded when it comes to Tesla and his brilliance. The man’s mind was of another world. We have rain b/c of his patents. Yes, the Bushie’s and the Schiff’s stole all of his work. This is a fact and has been documented and sourced.

    I guess where I am at is a lot of it makes sense yet it’s from a perspective that I naturally question due to my being NORMAL. LOL.

  61. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    PrairiePosted October 25, 2010 at 2:18 pm | Permalink
    Vencice, what about bills? Should I worry about running a balance and stocking up debt or just say screw it and buy more silver?

    Prairie, I just took the property taxes from the locked glove box(sheriff door was locked Saturday) and I’m buying more food and that $250 Berkey I’ve been puttin off all summer.

    I also used mortgage money to fill the propane tank before the price increases.

    Mortgage company called…I hung up–screw them…I’ve been doing it right for soooo many years and now, my attitude is really changed!!

  62. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    One comment—just my thoughts, but if Napolitano told the activist to stock up and keep it hush hush…that tells me that for her to not be screaming this news means when TSHTF that that will be the last of her worries and ours..ya think??

  63. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    Candid, ok. I don’t know what normal is anymore. I don’t know how sane people go about like we are in a normal political cycle. I don’t know how normal people explain things like the push now for non-citizens to vote. Normal people would be shouting WTF! Guess I’ve never worried about normal, being an artist has always given me the “essentric” title in my small town. When the parents want to fight the school board… they say Prairie, have you heard…what are you gonna do? Everyone expects insanity from me…little do they know, I am the most grounded in reality. My reality. That perhaps is the key. What you accept as reality determines what you see as normal. Once I saw the darkness and evil, the genocide, the false flags, and the propoganda, I can’t go back to “normal.” I am back to my old saying…tinfoil is the new black…and damn, I look good in it!

  64. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    want soe advice??

    My neighbor thinks she’s going to use shopping bags in the toilet—uhhhh..don’t try it unless you want to clean a real mess–grbage bags all the way and don’t scrimp on them–get good ones.

  65. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    JJ,
    Gotcha. I thought grocer bags too. My bad.

  66. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    JustMePosted October 25, 2010 at 3:32 pm | Permalink
    JJ

    I have PLENTY of trash bags for that reason. I even have buckets that fit a toilet seat AND disinfectant for it.

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    One bucket I have too —didn’t use all 5 gallon buckets given to me when filling with sugar, oats, rice, crackers, salt, and other foods…but, if I can put bag inside lid and let lid hold the bag, why not??

  67. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    Yes, Story stated the funds came from the Queen and China. But this leaves more questions than answers about Story knowing what we do about the Queen and D.C. Knowing truth about who owns who. My mind is spinning, the good guys should just always wear white.

  68. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    I am laughing…I have boys and no need for toilets. Bags for one at my house.

  69. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    And you are 100% right, Tesla’s patents were stolen by the PTB. One of those patents was how to make electricity free.

    BINGO–energy from static electricity pulled from the air..

    And another thing..I’m out-thought here, but I will always think the trillions stolen in the last decades have been used to build underground cities for the elites.

  70. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    Venice,

    I think you are right on the money about the cyberattack and the banking system. When you think back on the extreme measures they went through to destroy the records of other investigations into missing billions and trillions (thinking 9/11 and the Pentagon, and the OKC/Murrah Building) this is the perfect way to destroy the virtual records/paper trail of this mortgage fraud. All bank accounts are zeroed out, maybe (?). Certainly funds are inaccessible while these institutions try to get back up to speed. I think this is why Lindsey was saying to get clear ownership of your house if you could or buy a little shanty. I think it’s better to just make friends with the Sheriff. lol First they leak the info of the fraud, got to Congress with their hands out again, more robbing of the American people, then destroy the records – virtual paper trail of home ownership. I wouldn’t use my money to pay off the note – especially knowing the value of the homes are going down down down. I would use it to buy more gold/silver, ammo, food, seeds, etc. I think this was Lindsey inserting his own emotion into the situation. I can’t say that I wouldn’t either if I was in his shoes and was the holder of such information.

    This worm was released to target the water systems, as Dr. Parker reported a couple of weeks ago. It is global, meant to target Iran first. It isn’t finished, yet. The countries that depend on nuclear power will be hard hit because they have to have pristine water for this kind of power. What will this do to our water system? One can only guess, especially knowing water was part of the conversation between Napolitano and her friend.

  71. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Clarification on my statement above:
    The countries that depend on nuclear power will be hard hit because they have to have pristine water for this kind of power

    I should have said – they need pristine water to enrich the uranium for nuclear power.

  72. Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    You just proved my point about normal. Normal for me is when one can clearly understand and comprehend two opposing thoughts yet remain in the middle of those thoughts until they’ve been reconciled. Thus, Story was the Queen’s guy, I feel rather confident about stating this now. She was his “puppet master” so to speak. Now that his voice is no longer in the mix, it’s clearer to see and understand the Casper Intel messages. Allow me to add, I don’t think Story was aware of how the Queen was using him or MI6. I think he went quiet b/c he figured it all out and realized the role he was unwittingly playing. Just a hunch.

  73. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    PrairiePosted October 25, 2010 at 4:00 pm | Permalink
    JJ,
    Gotcha. I thought grocer bags too. My bad.

    Prairie, have you noticed putting away groceries those little round tabs onhte floor??
    Some come from the edges of the bottom of the bags and look closely, you may find holes…won’t hold anyhow if like some as I worked retail and they are really cheap now, why we double bag…but anyhow, a cheap gargage bag is heftier I’d think than a walmart bag, evven doubled.

    I just shudder at the thought of no water in my toilet and having to clean little one’s poop…

    I hope any visitors are learning the basics of survivla here.

    Laugh now, you won’t be laughing if it happens.

  74. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    Time again for my theme song…play loudly, it’s the only way to enjoy it!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8ahFEm7vjg&feature=related

  75. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    PrairiePosted October 25, 2010 at 4:06 pm | Permalink
    I am laughing…I have boys and no need for toilets. Bags for one at my house.

    Niece has three boys—message received!!

  76. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    This worm was released to target the water systems, as Dr. Parker reported a couple of weeks ago. It is global, meant to target Iran first. It isn’t finished, yet. The countries that depend on nuclear power will be hard hit because they have to have pristine water for this kind of power. What will this do to our water system? One can only guess, especially knowing water was part of the conversation between Napolitano and her friend.

    okay–that does it–going to Dander Mountain definitely for Berkey now.

  77. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    JJ,
    Not laughing at the tip, just thinking of how my boys prefer to go anywhere at anytime. You don’t know how many candid shots I have of the entire ball team lined up against a tree grove in full view of the fans. I know this is serious, I’m just getting squirly. I do appreciate how you have helped us prepare and look forward to more of your tips.

  78. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Helen…normal? in these times??
    Is it sitting discussing Berkey purification systems as your neighbors attend to their little homesy tasks??

    Is it talking about bug-out-bags and stocking up on toilet paper as the neighbors go to soccer games and cook outs??

    I haven’t been ‘normal’ for 2 years!!!

  79. Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    JJ – Dander or Gander Mountain? Do they sell Berkey Water systems? Who knew? How much are they going for?

  80. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    Your hunch may be spot on. Although I am leaning in one direction, I have not fully taken the leap. The nagging voice in my head has one unanswered question…what if the Casper group is leading us to and not from, a one world government and one global currency? What if it is the Trojan horse? Then, the little voice whispers. . . but… aren’t we already under a one world government?

  81. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    If you have gas tanks–keep them full–those that say gas gets old–phooey–I’ve used gas for mowing I know was a year old.

  82. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    More Ah ha moments.

    I’m remembering bits and pieces of Dr. Parker’s show this past weekend, which I’m STILL sorting out. He was discussing the bio-terrorism laws/bill and saying how the food, water, supplements and even chewing gum fall under it.

    Okay, think about it. IF the water systems were the target of the worm (cyber attack) then the government taking over control of the food/water supply would fall under this bio-terrorism law. Ah, geezeee, have I gone too far? As Lindsey said, the name of the game is control.

    Here’s a link to info about this bill, courtesy of 9/11, that Bush signed.

    http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/bt/bioprep/news/btlaw.html

  83. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Think I best bug out for groceries right now. bbl.

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=185769

  84. Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    JJ at 4:30 – you got me there. btw, what are the key items for a bug out bag?

  85. Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Prairie – I’ve had similar thoughts which is why I’m going to remain in the middle of these opposing constructs. I feel safer here for some reason.

  86. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    helenPosted October 25, 2010 at 4:31 pm | Permalink
    JJ – Dander or Gander Mountain? Do they sell Berkey Water systems? Who knew? How much are they going for?

    I hope they do–so, I should call before I go to Gander(not dander)Mtn…and the best and top of the line suggested by the gung-ho hikers and campers is $250, Berkey—all reviews leaned toward Berkey.

    I got the camper cooker there and fuel for the camper.and 2 oil lamps and fuel; i’m not a candle person for lighting.

    I wish I lived by you guys; I’m so alone in my SHTF mode here. Seriously, the only two aware are sisters and one has no gun(says it won’t help if we get nuked) and the other has 160,000 in 401 and sister can’t get her to understand what to do with it.. stubborn husband I think.

    Going to phone now….

  87. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    Berkey isn’t at Gander Mtn…so, I’ll search for it.

  88. Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if REI has it.

  89. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    RBN or GCN have ads for the Berkey. I think we ordered ours from Emergency Essentials. Can’t remember

  90. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    helenPosted October 25, 2010 at 4:44 pm | Permalink
    JJ at 4:30 – you got me there. btw, what are the key items for a bug out bag?

    You’d only need a BOB if forced to leave your home quickly…and only essentials needed ….

    Note: our blankets are in my SUV at all times and Gene and I have a designated ‘rally’ point if one of us
    can’t get home!!

    (back to BOB–high calorie bars, peanut butter crackerers, lighters, energy drinks, flashlight with batteries out, a good knife, water purification tablets(walmart), lightweight cord, cable ties, bandaids, baby wipes, hand sanitizer waterless soap, change of clothes, pistol, cash, toilet tissue, can opener, spam, even contact lens, toothpaste/brush, everything possible inside ziplok bags…

    think away from home for 3 days.

  91. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    Call to attack Americans comes from Israel…

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/24/gordon-duff-gadahn-call-to-attack-americans-comes-from-israel/

  92. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    so many of the sites I visit have Berkey ads and I just thought I could get one close to home and not order it–the ‘what really happened’ site has one and alex jones has a call in number..or online.

  93. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    JJ,
    Thanks for the reminder to stock up on contact lenses, my oldest is blind without.

  94. Posted October 25, 2010 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    anybody have anything to add to JJ’s bug out bag?

  95. Posted October 25, 2010 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    bbshortly.

  96. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Just listening to the rest of Lindsey – I missed the latter part of the interview due to a phone call. The cancer treatment he mentioned that one of the two Mr. X received at the Mexico facility – the meds came from Spain reminds me of the story of Joan Veon. I believe the serums her doc in Mexico were coming from Germany. At some point the clinic in Mexico was no longer able to get the meds he needed. Her doc in California tried to recreate them, but as we now know, was unsuccessful in the end.

    You can read about Joan Veon’s experience on her website, if interested.

  97. Posted October 25, 2010 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    JM – would you download the Lindsey podcasts from Alex’s show today? Thanks in advance.

  98. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    http://www.directive21.com/

    ordered my Berkey online here…they were used in Haiti–that sold me on the Berkey.

    $209.00

  99. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    JM, 4;15 and 4:43 pm.

    I’m sure we talked about the high probability of cyberattacks several months ago. Didn’t we?
    Yes, it was when there was suspicion that China was found to have infilitrated the internet on U.S. territory. That would have been sometime early this year. Maybe March.

    In any event, your ideas have a great deal of merit. I think it’s still much too early for any involvement of the water system, though I wouldn’t dismiss it for the future. The banking system on the other hand is fair game.

    Brilliant JM. It certainly would do away with all this messy stuff regarding foreclosures. After all, no one really thought the government would let people stay in their homes for free. Did they?

  100. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    JustMePosted October 25, 2010 at 5:35 pm | Permalink
    Just listening to the rest of Lindsey – I missed the latter part of the interview due to a phone call. The cancer treatment he mentioned that one of the two Mr. X received at the Mexico facility – the meds came from Spain reminds me of the story of Joan Veon. I believe the serums her doc in Mexico were coming from Germany. At some point the clinic in Mexico was no longer able to get the meds he needed. Her doc in California tried to recreate them, but as we now know, was unsuccessful in the end.

    You can read about Joan Veon’s experience on her website, if interested.

    Justme–I heard him give the phone number if anyone listening had friends or loved ones with cancer–I was sooo impressd I called my husband..I knew they were causing cancer so the pharma and inverstors could make billions from it…so sad…what does God think of us at this time??

  101. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    JJ,
    Thanks for the site. Did you get the free sport bottles too? What is the scoop on the filters needed? I am new to this. I was trying to talk my hubby into a system for the fridge and faucet hadn’t thougth of a counter top unit (no installation needed translates into no hubby coorperation needed) He thinks floride is our friend. Then again, he believes in global warming and fair elections. I should tell him about the tooth fairy not being real either.

  102. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    JJ, can you share the phone number?

  103. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    I need to tell you a story…I started getting stinging, biting sensations on the back of my hamstrings as I sat at the computer 2 years ago–they became worse and I investigated online–found some symptoms sounded like what was described as coming from chemtrails and since I had spent the last few years out by a pool for hours each day, I thought maybe that was the problem…exposure.
    I ordered diatomaceous earth..it’s for worms, and such for dogs, and animals from the vet’s perspective..
    I used the powder in my drinks for a few days and the stinging, biting sensation went away and returned only once.

    Again I used it in my drink and a couple days, the sensations stopped>>>

    Why am I telling you this??

    I actually saw it recommended for Gulf victims of Corexit–if you know of any suffering, it wouldn’t hurt to try it–it’s inexpensive and one box/package would serve a lot of people.

  104. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    Nah, Prairie, don’t burst his bubble. It’ll be your secret. lol

    Dr. Parker says the filters you buy at local stores for the tap and fridge are worthless. The nasties you have to filter are serious toxins that sometimes only reverse osmosis and ultraviolet destroys. Having said that, The Berkey, Parker says, is the next best thing. But, just know that it doesn’t take care of everything either. We have one and love it. Sport bottles are awesome. The ultra fine carbon filters last for a very very long time.

    Check out this site for great info on water and toxins/contaminants. I found it to be in line with what Dr. Parker has been discussing. We are considering a system for our home. Still researching though.

    http://www.freedrinkingwater.com/

  105. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    JJ,

    that’s an interesting story on using diatomaceous earth. Dr. Parker, on many occasions, has touted the vet as being a resource for humans. He said the vets have no means of communicating with animals to ask them where it hurts. Thus, his theory was it required harder work on the vet’s part to get to the bottom of things.

  106. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    Bookmarked. I like this sentence…
    “Fits under the sink with no special plumbing.” Hubby is really gonna blow when he sees what I am getting next. Ran into a friend while at the grocery. He has over 100 gords for me. I asked him to grow them at his farm. I saw at a show where a lady made bowls and lanterns with them. I like to carve and do word burning, I am pretty good with the drill and can add paintings to them- I can’t wait to get them home. I am thinking leather trim to string them above my cupboards, kinda a funky western version of Chinese lanterns. Now where to hide them since I have a 50 lbs. of flour, 50 lbs. of beans, and oodles of noodles (thanks JJ) under my steps!

  107. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    Come to think of it, cyberwar will be waged against U.S. citizens, and then China will be blamed.

  108. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    Venice,

    I didn’t mean there would be an actual attack, per se, on our water system. I was thinking more along the lines of they would use this worm to say there was an attack on our water systems. Notice they say systems. It includes waste. The gov’t could then simply claim there was a threat against our water system under this bio-terrorism law and take control. Does that make sense?

  109. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Venice @6:31

    Exactly!

  110. Posted October 25, 2010 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

    Y’all are on a roll tonight. Love it! Keep it up.

    JJ – will order Berkey tonight w/a year’s worth of filters. I was looking at Ecolo Blu but think it wiser to go with Birkey due to it not needing electricity. And the solar panels for Ecolo are cost prohibitive.

    Venice, ditto JM’s comment. Exactly!!!

  111. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    Funny, on Sunday Fox news or some C-Span channel had an long segment on the “under discusses” possiblity of terrorist attack on our water supply. This game is getting too easy to play…

  112. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

    101.
    PrairiePosted October 25, 2010 at 6:12 pm | Permalink
    JJ,
    Thanks for the site. Did you get the free sport bottles too? What is the scoop on the filters needed? I am new to this. I was trying to talk my hubby into a system for the fridge and faucet hadn’t thougth of a counter top unit (no installation needed translates into no hubby coorperation needed) He thinks floride is our friend. Then again, he believes in global warming and fair elections. I should tell him about the tooth fairy not being real either.

    You’re so funny–I think the filter is the reason I chose to purchase this one–don’t remember a lot about it now–but it was super easy and not expensive and they lasted a long time compared to others…yes, I liked the idea of it sitting on my countertop–but they say we get more chemtrails exposure throught our showers than drinking water–so there ya go!!

  113. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    Venice, wondered what you thought of this notion I had.

    This morning I had gone back to the prior thread trying to get caught up reading several of the last articles posted. I revisited the presstv link I posted about China investing in a rail system in Brazil with Colombia. Keep in mind this:

    In August of 2010, a new president was sworn in in Colombia. He *replaces* a US-backed Uribe, who failed in his attempt to change the constitution…” “Santos vowed to continue fighting FARC guerrillas, push economic growth, and manage the country’s strained diplomatic relations with neighboring Venezuela.”

    http://www.presstv.com/detail/137844.html

    Something stuck out for me in that short article about the China investment with Colombia and Brazil — the China Development Bank (CDB). I guess I never noticed the particular nuance/detail of this bank before. I started thinking it was somehow acting in direct competition with the IMF, even though China is a major player in the IMF. I looked the bank up on Wikipedia, and what a surprise. The reason it caught my attention was their ongoing interest in “development” both inside China and investments outside of China, particularly in the Latin Am countries. Then…I reviewed some of the articles you had posted about the G-20 and the IMF.

    Even thought the IMF was the creation of the U.S. as part of the Bretton Woods agreement, China has now surpassed the U.S. as the number one share holder. Another thing was the agreement to the recent restructuring of IMF that happened with this last G-20 meeting – giving these other “developing countries with emerging markets” a bigger voice. So, are these are the same countries the IMF has screwed royally in the past with their austere payback plan (in cahoots with the U.S.) to further bankrupt them that now, it seems, China’s Development Bank is investing in outside of their own country? 

    China is in the driver’s seat because they didn’t follow the damn Keynesian method of economics AND they need the natural resources of other countries for their own development. Their economic model, as we know, is no where near the Keynesian model. And, as you, Venice, have pointed out many times, culturally there is a precedent that China has they have never wavered from – trust and integrity. 

    I believe this bank is key to China’s continued growth. We don’t have a development bank do we? No. They are strictly a development bank. Non-consumer. Originally for the purpose of development of their own country’s infrastructure. Now, they are looking outside of their country to develop other important country’s infrastructure that will in the long run aid them. what a novel idea, hey?

  114. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    JM,

    Thanks for the clarification. I didn’t know of Parker’s work. So, yes I completely agree.

  115. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    Prairie @6:51

    unbelievable. Did you see it?

    You’re right this game is getting too easy to play. Well, I don’t know if it’s easy. All of this info is disseminated from multiple sources and brains. That’s a lot of man hours! lol

  116. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    Yes, I was up early having coffee while the rest of the house slept. It caught my attention because of your recent “plunge” into the water grab and GMO stuff. The perfect bump, set, spike for this kind of attack.

  117. Posted October 25, 2010 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    JM – the info we’re receiving and parsing is better known as the “trickle down” theory. LOL.

  118. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    In a radio interview that aired on Univision on Monday, Mr. Obama sought to assure Hispanics that he would push an immigration overhaul after the midterm elections, despite fierce Republican opposition. “If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, ‘We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us,’ if they don’t see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election, then I think it’s gonna be harder and that’s why I think it’s so important that people focus on voting on November 2.” Referring specifically to Republicans such as Senator John McCain, who are stressing border security and supporting strict immigration laws like Arizona’s anti-illegal immigration measure, Mr. Obama said, “Those aren’t the kinds of folks who represent our core American values.”

    hotair.com …

    He finally said it…we are the enemy.

  119. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Another koom-ba-ya moment as “Barky Does the Blue States”…

    “We don’t mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.”… from the AP.

  120. Posted October 25, 2010 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    yeah, and imagine Prairie, some are actually starting to believe he is on the soveriegn side of the coin. go figure.

  121. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    “Most disheartening about the continuing Wikileaks saga is the inability of our government to mount a counterstrike against the sites dispensing classified information or – worse still – the ineffectiveness of whatever countermeasures the government is employing. The massive leaks certainly don’t inspire confidence in the Defense Department’s ability to protect classified information or defend the nation against cyber-attacks.”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/oct/25/declare-war-on-wikileaks/

  122. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    JM 7:03 pm

    China has the very exquisitely complex task of feeding 1.3 billion people. Think about it, 1.3 billion. Hard to imagine. Canada has a measly 35 million at its last count AND with vast natural resources to boot.

    China could not have played the same game the U.S. has led in the past several decades, destroying its economy, squandering its money on wars, and exhausting its military personnel, all for the purposes of global domination.

    China will gain dominance, but in a very different way. It has exceedingly long tentacles, largely created on the backs of its labouring class, millions of them.

    It seeks to develop and therefore acquire natural resources predominantly, but also technological, medical, and artificial intelligence expertise so that its vast nation can compete in the 21st century.

    They do NOT choose to do this with military tactics. That largely remains the prerogative of the West. But they will excercise that right if necessary.

    The Chinese I believe are trying to look after their own, but not by antagonizing other nations. I think they are trying to do it by negotiating in a fair way with many parts of the world that they are bartering with. Countries like Russia, Iran, South Africa, South America, Europe (remember them buying up Greek bonds) and ultimately the Northern Hemisphere. I can tell you that China has a strong presence in Canada. I expect they will attempt to buy up our oil fields in due time.

    So, yes, it would make absolute sense to have a “development” bank in a country that will benefit greatly by the yuan. That’s the key – it is not exploitive, it is set up to be mutually advantageous.

    Lindsey said the elite control Russia and China as well. Well yes, but as I think I’ve mentioned before, I think the elite also be broken down into separate factions. And I’m not so sure they all have the exact same thing in mind.

  123. Posted October 25, 2010 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    venice stated – “Lindsey said the elite control Russia and China as well. Well yes, but as I think I’ve mentioned before, I think the elite also be broken down into separate factions. And I’m not so sure they all have the exact same thing in mind.”

    Lindsey, the oligarchs, whomever can believe whatever they wish, but the real answer, IMHO, is no one controls these two empires other than those who are in the driver’s seat. China long ago moved away from Mao policies simply b/c they were so restrictive and self serving. Someone within this hierarchical realm convinced those in power that yes, Mao had his worth, much to the demise of the millions of innocent Chinese who died under his reign of terror, but today, how do we make up for this blasephemy and how do we reconcile, code word for guilt, the communistic gov’t w/a well, dare I say, a more democratic form of government.

    China’s wall has served her purpose. I sense it’s readyign to be removed but in good time. The Old World Order must be destroyed before such changes are made. Otherwise, all remain vulnerable to this toxic, controlling, dare I say, f’d up cabal.

  124. Posted October 25, 2010 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    And let me make a point here. Communism is a reaction to the NWO Illuminatist’s vision. Correct me if I’m wrong. But communism is all about the state being in control vs facism being about the corporation being in control – the two are contradictory. Thus, we are now witnessing the stronger form of gov’t – the government rather than the maliable corporate ruling our world. Therefore, it is in the best interest of the US to remove the facist idiot at the WH and all of his cabal, and put in place a functioning government…not a communist governmental model but the simple return to our constitutional form of government. China, like venice pointed out below, has 1.3 billion souls to manage and they know their model of gov’t is failing miserably. These men and women aren’t stupid nor are they truly tied to one ideology over another. Rather, they accept this new superpower role and know their own gov’t must conform to humanistic principles. How can they be or do anything else. Lindsey used the word control – well try controlling 1.3 billion people and all of their needs and services someday…you can’t and you fail…therefore, you migrate to a new form of government which is what China appears to be readying for.

  125. Posted October 25, 2010 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    but I add, China will not remove her control until the Illuminati is defunct. She has no reason too. In simplistic terms, she’s in the driver’s seat and wishes to remain there. Thus, her arch enemy is the Old World Order aka the Illuminati.

  126. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    Interesting point, because the argument has been made for a more “democratic” government in China. In that vein, I found the soon to arrive President in 2012 (on the assumption he’ll be elected) to be an interesting one.

    His father was considered an enemy of the revolution and he himself was sent away to “labour” as he was regarded a reactionary.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/asia-pacific/xi-jinping-a-princeling-and-future-king/article1762993/

  127. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    vain

  128. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 8:51 pm | Permalink

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=185788

  129. Posted October 25, 2010 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    Felt a need to bring this post over from RM –

    With my “second week in November” prediction only 14 days away the veils are falling all around our fraudulent financial system. Dylan Ratigan is helping the Good Guys get the word out that something is VERY, VERY rotten at the heart of Wall Street.

    Here is his latest broadcast:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/39836703#39836703

    I’m starting to doubt that the system can stay intact for another two weeks the speed the word is spreading.

    The Global Financial Tsunami that is about to come crashing down around us and it will WIPE ALL ELECTRONIC AND PAPER FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH!

    Too radical for you?

    Then you don’t understand the game. When Warren Buffett called derivatives “Weapons of Mass Financial Destruction” what did you think he meant by that? Does it matter that Bank of America has $45 Trillion in derivatives? What happens to the counter parties when they fail? Very soon you are going to wake up and the world will have changed over night.

    The banks are totally and completely insolvent. All of them. One day soon you will wake up and your credit cards won’t work. Your ATM won’t work. Your bank will be closed. There will be no gas. No food….and what of transportation, power, water, garbage, phone, tv, internet, newspapers…they ALL REQUIRE people to make them function but there will be no money to pay people because there will be no banks with anything in their vaults.

    The “radical change” will happen. I’m just hoping the extreme lasts only a few weeks and not years but NOBODY KNOWS.

    We will survive this. It will be hard but we will survive and learn from this.

    I can see our future and it is glorious but our present if full of very, very black clouds.

    Sit back and watch how it all unveils over the coming days.

    Bix “from the Bunker”

  130. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=185790

    Both posts fit perfectly our discussions today follow Lindsey warnings.

  131. Posted October 25, 2010 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

  132. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    The Global Financial Tsunami that is about to come crashing down around us and it will WIPE ALL ELECTRONIC AND PAPER FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH!

    ///////////////

    Wow! And this is on mainstream media? This is exactly where my mind went as I posted earlier. It’s so easy for them. Not nearly as messy as the clean up was for the prior methods of destruction. So, everything is just gone – as you say POOF!.

    When I thought back about the virtual company, MERS, that was *intentionally* created as a conduit for the mortgage backed securities it all made sense this is what they’d do to destroy the records.

    I still wouldn’t rush to pay off my house. Squat and make friends with the Sheriff.

  133. Posted October 25, 2010 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    okay, I give up! I do not have a clue how to post let alone find Alex’s podcasts. Help! If anyone here knows how to do this teach me. I need to learn. I’ve spent the last hour in total futility attempting how to download Lindsey’s portion of today’s interview on Jones show. I’m frustrated and I give up!

  134. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    I have them, Helen. I post

  135. Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    JM – I need to learn how to find them and post them. The T-Room is a member and I haven’t a clue how to find them. Daggone it! You have no idea how frustrated I am right now…hubby gave me an hour to educate b/c I’m competing with friggin HAWAII 5 – 0. You have no idea how pizzed I am for not being able to find these daggone podcasts. So, I can’t rely on you or anyone else from here on out. You need to teach me. I smile.

  136. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    PODCASTS FROM TODAY’S INTERVIEW WITH LINDSEY WILLIAMS

    Hour #2 of Alex w/Lindsey Williams

    http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/alex/1025102.mp3

    Hour #3 of Alex w/Lindsey Williams

    http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/alex/1025103.mp3

    Hour #4 (I don’t think he carries over, but just in case)

    http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/alex/1025104.mp3

  137. Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    aaarrrrgggghhhhhh – I’m listening now to Alex but can’t fast forward to Lindsey…shoot me…ROFLMAO…why would this be so hard???? truly, I’m laughing my arse off b/c it’s ridiculous. and I’m semi tech savvy! guess not. laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh.

  138. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    You’re not alone. I find Alex’s podcasts tricky as well.

  139. Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    The God’s in the atmosphere praise you, JM!!! B/c they too want to know what the hell Lindsey said today…how do I know, b/c I have friendly alien sitting next to me right now…LOL. Why is this so hard for me to learn….??? I’m skewed.

  140. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    Don’t need to be a member

    1.) Go to http://www.gcnlive.com

    2.) Then go to the drop down menu (far left) for the show you want – Alex is at the very top of the drop down menu

    3.) Above his mug shot you’ll see “Podcast” on the blue bar. Use this and not the archives.

    4.) His shows are identified by date and segment and appear in blue type. Click on it. A new browser window opens up

    5.) copy and past the link from the browser window

    Note:
    1025103.mp3 translates into the date 10.25.10 and the last digit is the hour of the show. In this case it is hour 3

  141. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    when you open it up in the new browser window is it all black with a grey bar in the middle? If so the “button” to the right of the “Play” symbol slides. Put your mouse cursor on it, hold it down and slide to where you want to go.

  142. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    just to be clear this step is if you want to post on the blog

    5.) copy and past the link from the browser window to the blog

  143. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,

    I think the critical info is going to gnc.live.com rather than infowars to copy and paste.

  144. Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    put me out of my misery, Alex. Why on earth would he be offering podcasts broken down into segments on the GCN link but not on his subscriber Prison Planet link? This makes no sense? Especially when one is a subscriber. You’d think he’d make it easy on us…silly me…NOT!!!

    It would have never occurred to me to go to GCN for a subscriber podcast download. Therefore I’ve spent the last hour on PrisonPlanet listening to his sorry butt telling the listeners what he thinks. painful I tell you, but at least he’s not screeching mode so it’s been bearable. LOL

  145. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Venice,

    yes, most definitely.

    I hope my instructions were clear. I’m half asleep. lol

  146. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    ROCLMAO (I’m on the couch, not the floor…hee hee)

  147. Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    I bow before you, JM. You are the Goddess of Alex…ROFLMAO…REALLY. He needs you badly. Customer relations? huh Subscriber relations, HUH???

    Like Prairie, I’m getting to squirrely!

  148. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    if all else fails, usually by now someone has made a youtube video of his show and posted it.

  149. Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    btw, amen, not the God Amen, but the prayer/faith of amen.

  150. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    You two are a regular Abot and Castello. Hey my last post at 8:54 check out.

  151. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    if you want to change the segment when the one you’re listening to is finished, go up to the top of your browser window and only have to highlight the digit that indicates the “hour” and put in the next one then hit the enter button (return button) on your computer. It changes.

    So for example, here you have this in the browser window (hour 2)
    http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/alex/1025102.mp3

    Just highlight the last digit after the date (2) and change to (3) 1025103.mp3

  152. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    Prairie 10:25pm

    That was precious, lol.

  153. Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    this will make you roll off the couch again, JM. b/c I’m a normal a$$hole, I’m going to wait until 10:45, you know, the time Hawaii 5 – 0 is crescend-O-ing to the end, and say, “honey, I have the podcasts loaded and ready for you to listen to now before you go to bed. He’ll look at me and say something snarky like “but it’s the end of the show” and I’ll say something snarky back like “so the show is more important than our financial wellbeing”. That’ll get him. Of course, he’ll surrender b/c he knows I’m right and that’s when I’ll sweetly smile and say, “I guess it can wait until your stupid show is over.”

    I know you and all others knows how this works; especially when it comes to “his” money…second marriage…what can I say…LOL.

  154. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    amazing what keeps showing up, huh?

    I think I posted a link towards the end of the prior thread about this high speed trading. The average time spent is something like 11 seconds and I BELIEVE approximately 70% of the trading is high speed. All preprogrammed and brokerage fees charge for each 11 second transaction.

  155. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

    Prairie, 8:54pm

    I think this is what really transpired at the IMF meeting this w/e. It also refers to JM’s previous post about the average trading time being 11 seconds. This can only happen with electronic manipulation of the markets.

  156. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    you are so bad!

    Let us know how it turns out. lol

  157. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:34 pm | Permalink

    JM

    You beat me to it.

  158. Prairie
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    Last one and then I finish watching the football game and hit the hay. Yes, tomorrow will be another crazy ride I’m sure. Night all.

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=185798

  159. JustMe
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    MAX KEISER AND SUICIDE BANKERS – lol

    http://maxkeiser.com/

    Other interesting articles, too, on China

  160. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    JM,

    FYI, reponded to you @ 7:39pm.

  161. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    I still wouldn’t rush to pay off my house. Squat and make friends with the Sheriff.

    Shoot…I have to learn his name first—but I pray he’s like the sheriff in Alaska?? that said noone comes in my county to foreclose!!

    And what do we do with those meticulous records we’ve kept for years??

  162. venice
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    JJ,

    Keep those records. They may be the only records left.

  163. JJ
    Posted October 25, 2010 at 11:37 pm | Permalink

    venicePosted October 25, 2010 at 10:47 pm | Permalink
    JJ,

    Keep those records. They may be the only records left
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    We are so screwed!! bought this house in 2007…refinanced in early 2008 for better interest rate…Countrywide sold out to
    BofA in 2009…..we are soooo screwed!!!

  164. Posted October 26, 2010 at 1:53 am | Permalink

    JustMe at 9:09 am,

    Guess what? The three senators involved in the creation of the banking deregulation bill, Charles Schumer (D-NY), Christopher Dodd (D-CT) and Phil Gramm (R-TX).

    Coincidence Gramm’s wife is involved in this? hehe…

    Thanks for posting!

  165. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 7:53 am | Permalink

    Doug,

    Thank you for this tidbit of info. Who knew?! Seems duos of the Bonnie and Clyde type are rampant in D.C.

  166. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 8:18 am | Permalink

    Prairie, Helen

    Here are 3 articles you may want to peruse, based on some of your recent postings about the Vatican and Knights of Malta. Lots of info.

    Popes That Were Jews (you can’t make this stuff up)

    http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/10/is-pope-always-catholic.html

    CIA/Vatican/Knights of Malta

    http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2008/10/cia-vatican-knights-of-malta-fascism.html

    Catholics and the CIA
    http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/04/catholics-and-cia.html

  167. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    Helen,

    are you aware of Cantor’s position on funding Israel? This is unreal – at the risk of creating extreme austerity on this soil, no one wants to cut the damn funding cord with the criminals.

    CUT, CUT, CUT THE BUDGET… Just Don’t Touch Israel

    “If the GOP’s electoral wins next week are enough to take over Congress, one thing they’ve pledged to do is “stop out-of-control spending,” as their “Pledge to America” policy blueprint says. But don’t even think about touching the over $3 billion in annual aid the United States gives to Israel.

    Politico‘s Laura Rozen reports, via the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, that House Republican whip Eric Cantor “would propose separating U.S. aid to Israel from the foreign operations budget, which the GOP may vote to defund”:

    Cantor, of Virginia, said he wants to protect funding for Israel should that situation arise.”

    http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/

  168. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    THIS SHOULD MAKE OUR BLOOD BOIL – remember the 19 year old American citizen (living in Turkey) that was shot execution style on the Gaza Aid Flotilla? Here’s how our *elected* officials about his death:

    “Despite revelations from a detailed investigation by a special commission of the United Nations Human Rights Council confirming that Israel committed war crimes, the overwhelming majority of both Republican and Democratic members of Congress remain on record defending the Israeli attack as legitimate self-defense. This is particularly striking given evidence presented in the report that five of the nine people killed, including a 19-year-old US citizen, were murdered – shot execution-style by Israeli commandos.”

    VOTE ‘EM ALL OUT!!!!!

    http://www.truth-out.org/congress-defends-murder-american-peace-activist-and-other-war-crimes63941

  169. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    CHECK OUT THIS MOVE ON THE GRAND CHESSBOARD -

    U.S. To Build $8 Billion Super Base on Pacific Island of Guam.

    And will spend another $126 million on upgrades at Diego Garcia. One key upgrade – completion date of 2013 – is the capability to repair a nuclear-powered guided-missile submarine capable of carrying 154 cruise missiles.

    All this while China beefs up its navy along with extended naval positioning with a “string of new bases” to secure the sea lanes from the Middle East – assuring their ability to import their oil fearing the U.S. could choke off the lanes in the event of a conflict.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/guam/8085749/US-to-build-8bn-super-base-on-Pacific-island-of-Guam.html

  170. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    New opinion piece by Casper…calling for us to stock up on food and water. Are you detected a recent theme?

    I am going to write and send an e-mail to all of my family. If they chose to delete it, ignore it, or laugh at it… I will be at peace with myself for having warned them. My job is then to provide only for my boys (and puppy Tessa, my little girl.)
    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1288061100

  171. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    that’s all you can do. I have decided to do the same thing. You can warn/advise, but it is up to them to prepare or not. Meanwhile, you may want to stock up on some extra things in case you end up feeding the ones that didn’t listen.

    Who is Casper?

  172. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    Helen and I (I am assuming I can speak for her on this) believe Casper is a mole within the refunding program involving the Queen, Vatican, U.S., and the World Court.

    Personally, I believe he is a White Knight (hence the name). They were stationed in the section of the Pentagon that was hit on 9/11, the morning announcement of the mortgage fraud on forclosed farms was to be announced- revealing mass corruption of government. Girl…where have you been? Off studying the UN while Helen and I have been doing some serioius “Ghost Busting” work? Story, BioSphere, Casper, Poof, and Fulford have all been connecting these dots in slightly different ways. Yes, it seems to be connected to Nesara…this was the 9/11 announcement.

  173. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    Ghost busting – lol.

    I *thought* I remembered conversations about Casper from long ago, but was thinking that you two had disregarded him as not “for real” so to speak. This BioSphere person is a new one. Sorry to say I haven’t completely understood everything the two of you were discussing. I’m just now starting to really understand “fracking.” I do read over it, but I don’t always understand it. I’ll leave the serious ghost busting to you girls.

  174. Posted October 26, 2010 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Hey…the U.S. is actually getting better at something; corruption!

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69P0X620101026

  175. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    JustMe,
    No, we haven’t written him off…we’ve just been riding the fence. Story and Casper seem to have been coming at it from different sides…knowing what we do about the Queen, I am leaning toward Casper’s side of things…thinking Story’s disappearance has to do with revelation regarding the Queen. Deadline today…bbl.

  176. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    Thanks, Venice, for your response.

    Yes, we’ve seen the decorum of the Chinese when the U.S. was trying to push them around. And, as you’ve pointed out before, they are very trustworthy and integrious. I was surprised when I read the article I posted above, about the new base the U.S. is building in Guam, that China isn’t as strong as it probably should be given the deals they are inking with other countries (the ones you’ve pointed out). It looks like, however, they are now thinking about their needs militarily to protect these necessary water routes.

    The description of the development bank was so interesting to me. I don’t follow the macro/micro details of China’s financial system, but after I looked this bank up on Wikipedia I was both surprised and impressed. As I said, it just struck me they would be in competition with the IMF after reading about their “joint venture” with Colombia. Investing in a railway to connect the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans as a means of helping build up the infrastructure to benefit ALL without such austere and arrogant attitudes has to have played a roll in the recent relaxation of the IMF structure.

    Maybe this bank and their banking system isn’t news to others that follow their financial structure/model more closely, but it is for me. One can’t help but see by the way China keeps their banks, thus funding, separate it has helped put them in the place of power they now enjoy. And, as you indicated, by the number of people living in China they have a lot of responsibility riding on their shoulders to be good money managers/stewards. China Development Bank is considered a Policy Bank and used only to fund their import-export and agriculture projects. They have a separate bank for construction (state owned), and the Commercial bank. The Central Bank is the People’s Bank of China.

    The Wikipedia entry used figures from 2004 to express the CDB’s profits — $2 billion. Unbelievable. “During 2004, the bank made a profit of about US $2 billion. The bank is the most profitable bank in China, and the second most profitable bank in Asia.”

    Thanks, again, Venice.

  177. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    Purple cows, flying pigs, hey look… a jack-a-lope!
    Things I thought I’d never see, like aliens and Jewish Popes.

  178. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    you are on a role today. lol

  179. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Helen,
    Can’t get in to Rumor Mills…how about you?

  180. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    Venice, et al

    I apologize for the somewhat incoherent ramblings in the above post. Looks like I’m not awake enough, yet, to be writing such missives.

    I think you can get the gist of it though.

  181. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    I’m not Helen, but I can’t access it either. They could be doing maintenance.

  182. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    The statement made by BioSphere that the Vatican controls the Mossad makes a bit more sense now doesn’t it?

  183. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    yep. Sure does.

  184. venice
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    JM,

    Thanks for your response and offering details of China’s banking system, which I agree is interesting and much more multi-faceted than its western counterpart. But then that’s probably true about many differences in the cultures.

    Which brings me to my next point. I should try to clarify my understanding of the Chinese temperament. I wouldn’t necessarily say they are more honest, although the net effect may end up looking like that. I think their understanding of negotiating principles are more complex and subtle. As we’ve all noticed they do not display “in your face” aggression, like Obama once declared Americans should do. No, no they weigh many factors before making a decision. They are methodical, and very mindful of the other, so that the ultimate effect is one of superior negotiations. And most importantly they are patient, a real virtue.

  185. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    Just reading Devvy Kidd’s latest article calling for the impeachment of “O”. There are dates she shows of upcoming “events.” May want to take a peak. In the meantime here’s an update on this case moving forward.

    “Is there any possibility that Obama/Soetoro can still be removed from office? Yes. There is still one case, Kerchner v Obama, which I have followed from the beginning. The wind has shifted direction since Leo Donofrio’s first case was discussed at the Supreme Court level in December 2008. Mario Apuzzo, attorney for Kerchner, et al, is a real warrior and has fought for his clients in the aforementioned case. It has now gone to the next step:

    “Kerchner et al v Obama/Congress/Pelosi et al Petition for Writ of Certiorari filed 30 Sep 2010 and docketed 04 Oct 2010 with the U.S. Supreme Court – Washington Times National Weekly edition – 18 & 11 Oct 2010 issues, page 5. U.S. Supreme Court Docket Number: 10-446. Response from defendants due to the U.S. Supreme Court by 3 Nov 2010.”

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd488.htm

  186. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    Venice,

    got it! Thanks.

  187. Posted October 26, 2010 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    Prairie – I got in.

    Casper’s update is interesting and it ties into so many other comments made of late.

  188. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    Prairie, et al

    I snipped this from the Fourwinds article you post a link to above.

    Think about this – what a perfect time to bring it all down; while he’s out of ‘harm’s’ way, so to speak?

    * Obama leaves on his longest ever ‘road trip’ overseas immediately after the elections at the same time so many are predicting the collapse of the dollar.

  189. Posted October 26, 2010 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Prairie – take a look at this lawsuit. Others interested in this ghostchasing Prairie and I have bee doing for sometime now, this may be a good place to start –

    MUST READ.. THIS IS THE SILVER BULLET TO STRIKE AT THE HEART OF THE BEAST.. Will the American People Use it?

    Posted By: Seawitch
    Date: Sunday, 24-Oct-2010 22:11:01

    Many of us know that the Federal Reserve is going down and determined to take us all with them.

    Those of us who are awake are confounded with the degree of mass hypnosis, apathy, and straight out laziness of the American people concerning the loss of our Sovereignty through the covert and overt actions of Congress, the Council on Foreign Relations, The Bilderberg Group, the Illuminati, etc. and traitors within the military working at a feverish pace to destroy our great country and insure it’s irreversible demise.

    Well… at the 59th minute of the 11th hour the ‘Silver Bullet’ to strike at the heart of the beast has been laid in the palm of our hand. Will the American people pick it up and use it?

    One thing is for sure, when the truth about the VK DURHAM TRUST gets out and spreads throughout America and the ranks of the Military, and the irrefutable evidence concerning the monetary wealth of America and course of action showing there is no need to follow the NWO down the path to oblivion resonating in the hearts and minds of those in high places of power and authority. We will see or at least sense the cannibalization that will take place within the government and the ranks of the military.

    Once and for all, those who have sworn an Oath to the Constitution will be able to see the TRAITORS for who they are and heads will roll. HEADS WILL ROLL!!

    “The U.S. has never informed the American sovereign of these presumptions which they hold against him, nor the consequences associated therewith. The U.S. has invested 75+ years of propaganda to indoctrinate the American People.”;

    TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS COURT FILING BELOW. THE DOTS ARE CONNECTED. YOU OWE IT TO YOURSELF.

    FEEL FREE TO PASS THIS ALONG TO ANYONE YOU WANT. AMERICANS NEED TO KNOW THIS.

    “THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE”.

    http://www.commonlawgrandjury.com/Articles/Court%20of%20International%20Trade%20Pleading-final%20body%20v%201.1.pdf

    By; Thomas Bradford: Schaults
    c/o 1505 King Charles drive
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania nation
    Non domestic near [15237]
    Presented as a Private Attorney General

  190. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Have you read that o reserved over 800 rooms there? Perhaps he and his criminal possie are all going.

  191. Posted October 26, 2010 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    JM – even more interesting is he is scheduled to go to Indonesia, which is the third time with the first two being cancelled at the last minute, yet we learn today that they have experienced two earthquakes in the matter of hours and their volcano is erupting. Why do I have a feeling this is HAARP and why do I have a feeling he will cancel his trip to Indonesia a third time due to safety concerns. What is it about Indonesia and his travels? Peculiar. Odd.

    He has also booked all 570 rooms at the Taj Mahal Hotel in India. Why? Why 570 room?

  192. venice
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303341904575576203310056046.html

    Almost certain to see silver shoot up.

  193. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    Today’s theme song is….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKbg7CfG7i4&feature=related

  194. Posted October 26, 2010 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Prairie – that’s my hunch. Read this lawsuit I just posted…Heck EVERYBODY READ THIS LAWSUIT I JUST POSTED!!! This is NESARA, the Durham Trusts, the Act of 1871 and more. This was filed in September 2010 which may very well be an answer to the acceleration of the dollar collapsing. Read it and let me know your thoughts.

  195. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    I will, trying to hit a newspaper deadline with my interview pieces of the local candidates. Be back when I can.

  196. JJ
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    http://www.shtfplan.com/emergency-preparedness/survival-guest-post-welcome-to-the-promised-land_10252010

    Oh, boy…send this to your email contacts…I did!!!

    I am sooooo feeling better about all this; let it happen, and then let’s get back to building our nation on the principles WE believe in.

  197. JJ
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    For those who have pools, fill them…you have a Berkey now, clean water available from your pool.

    I know I had an inground of 22,000 gallons and I’d safely drink and use it with a Berkey.

  198. JJ
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    you are are still somehow confident that you will survive because you’ve been responsibly paying the premiums on your Emergency and Disaster Preparedness Insurance Policy.

    You haven’t been paying the premiums? You did not sacrifice what you wanted today for what you might need tomorrow? The bad news is, your prognosis for survival is definitely grim. There is no good news. Read the full article…

    (He’s really good–and kicks us in the guts to wake us—we need that.)

    http://www.shtfplan.com/emergency-preparedness/survival-guest-post-welcome-to-the-promised-land_10252010

  199. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    JJ,
    Just planning to melt snow here in the Dakotas. Kidding…or not.

  200. JJ
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    JustMePosted October 26, 2010 at 11:22 am | Permalink
    Just reading Devvy Kidd’s latest article calling for the impeachment of “O”. There are dates she shows of upcoming “events.” May want to take a peak. In the meantime here’s an update on this case moving forward.

    So very weird–I was just thinking of her writings and going there–very weird!!

  201. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    JJ, Helen, et al

    Here is a link to Ross Perot’s website he put up back in November of 2008 concerning the seizure of 401k. I had to do a search for it because it is gone from his current site. Nonetheless, he references this interview between Theresa Ghilarducci and Mark Levin that was mentioned in the SHTF link JJ provided, which I thank you for posting.

    Thought this might make for some interesting reading. This is what prompted us to cash out of our IRA’s. NO REGRETS.

    Based on what the current article is saying, the bill is already written AND they have been meeting on it while Congress is on recess. No doubt they’ll ram it through before the January fruit basket turnover.

    http://perotcharts.com/2008/11/save_your_401k/

    Audio of Mark Levin and Ghilarducci (she’s a nut, btw!)
    http://citadelcc.vo.llnwd.net/o29/network/Levin/MP3/ShowAudio/PROFGhilarducci.mp3

  202. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    Man, I so wish my hubby wasn’t living in an altered reality. I got him to stop contributions, but he won’t cash out. Our friend/investor is putting a lot into oil stocks. That might not be bad?

  203. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    Ok, Helen,
    Where are the Cliff Notes for that lawsuit? I’m trying to get through it.

  204. JJ
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    Prairie–the neighbor’s sister and husband live like paupers to save–$160,000 last I heard–imagine doing without, sacrificing all your life and not being able to get that when due–he works two jobs now…she sells Avon and every penny is still saved..you just can’t reach some people.

  205. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    those that had a 401k thought they were doing the right thing. It was considered a way to get “free money” when an employer would match your contribution. It isn’t really free because you have to pay taxes on it when you withdraw it. Based on my understanding of the IRS mandates, one could borrow against the balance, but only the amount (50% usually) the employee paid into it. It’s kinda crazy because you pay yourself back with interest. go figure.

    You can continue to contribute to receive the employer’s matching amount but hold it in a cash account within the 401k/IRA. This means it doesn’t get invested, but just sits there like in a savings acct. Until now, that was great – folks were in preservation mode while still receiving the benefit of the free money from the employer (matched amt).. But…looks like that’s coming to a screeching halt.

    I mentioned this the other day. I would consider borrowing against the amt I could and purchasing gold/silver. You’ll make your money back much more quickly than if it was sitting in the acct. It’s all virtual money anyway.

    I would definitely consider quitting the contributions at this point. Use the money to live on – especially given the prices of food and oil on the rise.

    I’ve told both of my boys (men) this day was coming. They put their money into a cash reserve account last year based on my research. One of them is young enough to start over again at some point. The other, maybe not so much. ugh….telling my age! lol

    Prairie, consider printing out the article from Perot’s site and the other article (may have to search for a site that doesn’t say when the SHTF – i smile) and ask he read it. It does, after all, affect your financial future, too. Just a suggestion.

  206. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    It is maddening to know all of this and sit here because my husband is a butt munch!

  207. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    HEADS UP – MIKE RIVERO IS ON NOW

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/?page_id=3

  208. Posted October 26, 2010 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    Prairie – it’s dry reading at the beginning but becomes easier to read in the Appendices. Hey Question for ya, did Casper write something about the packages and Austria? If so, as you read the stuff in the appendices you will understand why I’m asking. Need to go dig that out.

  209. Posted October 26, 2010 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Mine is too. He was asleep when I went up around 10:40ish last night. Being the pain in the derriere that I can be, I asked him “honey, are you awake?” and heard this gggrrrrr. Then I said, “I have the podcast ready to listen to, I guess you want to sleep instead?” ggggrrrrr “Ok, kiss, kiss goodnight”

    First thing this morning, he always kisses me before heading to work, although I’m still snoozing BUT, I said, “Promise me you will listen to the podcast when you get home tonight” and he said “promise”

    So, he will and we will have yet another intense discussion but in the end I know and trust he will do whatever is necessary to protect his/our wealth.

  210. Posted October 26, 2010 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    Which isn’t much btw, but it’s got great potential to grow in the new markets…after the six months.

  211. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    Latest from our friendly ghost. I am getting through it. The newpaper business has been a pain in the a$$ today and has kept me from my real job of ghost busting.

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=185845

  212. Posted October 26, 2010 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Found it – Prairie skip over the legalese and start at page 63 and read from there. You can always go back and read the whole thing but need you to read this last section given what Casper posted yesterday. Here is what he stated –

    This weekend the U.S., China, England, Merkle and the Vatican made a play for the gold backing the new banking system and therefore all programs worldwide, using forged documents.
    Had they succeeded it would have been all over, ‘the wheels would have come off’ as this gold, located in Austria, is an important part of the foundational assets underlying the new metals backed banking system and the programs. This was a coordinated attempt by those mentioned above to kill the new and continue the status quo.

    Those of you with ‘sources’ claiming ‘money movements’ this weekend should especially take note as this is still another example of the ‘cover stories’ put out by ‘the establishment’ to mislead you as to what was really going on this weekend.

    By their own admission ‘the new’ will result in all of the corrupt Ponzi Players being gone so they will try anything, ANYTHING at all to preserve the status quo and themselves in power.

    The above sabotage efforts have been blocked and dealt with, the gold remains in Austria.

    More when possible,

    Casper 10-24-10

    If you start at 63 you’ll quickly see what he was saying in yesterday’s update.

  213. Posted October 26, 2010 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    It’s starting to make so much more sense now, after reading the lawsuit; especially the latter part where the entire global criminal syndicate is exposed. Chapter and verse then sourced and sourced, yada yada yada.

  214. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    Now you tell me to start at 63. Go up, I posted the new casper update.

  215. Posted October 26, 2010 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    One of the chief reasons, I’ll speak for Prairie on this (hope you don’t mind), Prairie and I have been sitting on the fence for two years now is b/c of all of the generated noise circulating around what Christopher Story, WorldReports, Benjamin Fulford, geopolitics, Casper and Poofness, RumorMill and Fourwinds10 and theantechamber and others were all writing about regarding the heist of “gold” from the American people.

    Story, as I wrote yesterday, reported on the Dollar Refund Programme in terms of the Queen’s and Chinese intel sources. Fulford writes from the viewpoint of the Japanese and sometimes the Chinese viewpoints and has always written about the Federal Reserve’s days being numbered. Then we have this character Casper and sidekick Poofness. Yes, they are real. Casper appears to be heading up a group of “good guys” who have been trying to move the VK Durham gold assets into America, safely, in order to shut down the Reserve and all of her financial tentacles, including the IRS.

    The gold assets belonging solely to the VK Durham trust aka the American People were tucked away in Austria during Sr’s rule. After the metals were located, I can only guess, necessary steps were taken to secure these metals into the appropriate hands of the people’s representatives. Casper appears to be the guy leading this transaction and he provides almost daily updates on the lack of progress to move these assets to the US Treasury.

    You see, if we truly have gold then we no longer need the Federal Reserve and her corrupt fiat system, right? This appears to be the crux of the matter.

    I wrote to Jackie Smith to ask her a bit about her impressions of RAP. I am of the opinion that the RAP Elders served as a distraction and misdirected people away from the real story, which is the passage of NESARA and the inniment change to the dollar. We are now hearing language being used that the cabal knows it’s going down, the Federal Reserve is collapsing, Interpol is making arrests, banks being closed, Foreclosuregate, etc. If we were preparing to go to war or for martial law wouldn’t we the people be preparing in a different way? I think we are honestly being prepared for this eminent rather dramatic change which will indeed restore our constitutional form of government issuing her own legal tender backed by the gold and trillions stolen from us by the bankster cabal.

    It is my humble opinion that the six-month preparation of food and water is for three key reasons – first, the changeover from paper to gold – to change a nations currency I’d think at a minimum it would take this long; second, the corrupt, treasonous and criminal cabal will be rounded up and a court of some kind will have to be established to follow through on all criminal charges; remember though, this scheme has players from across the globe, and I’m not convinced the World Court is set up for this; and third, it will take at least six months to hold elections and seat a new and legitimate congress. It’s intrigued me for sometime now that everyone talks of this six month need for preparation. Why six months and not seven or eight or just prepare we’re all doomed?

    No, I think the word “acceleration” applies here b/c the global elite have been outed and people the world over are learning with each new day how deep it goes. Imagine if you were a Brit and you learn for all of the years you’ve been alive paying your taxes to learn that the Queen isn’t a Queen at all, but rather an Illuminati placed in this position of power to betray you, your people and your country. I don’t know about y’all but that’s simply shocking, but this is truth. We in the blogosphere, especially bloggers here at The T-Room have journeyed down so many rabbit holes to get to the truth and boy have we ever learned a ton. Well, maybe, just maybe out of 300 Million American’s only a million or two have learned these truths about our own criminal form of government. That’s not much. But rather than learning on their own and in their own time they will be smacked upside the head when the walls all start tumbling down. Can you imagine 298 Million American’s all experiencing humility at the same time. LOL. Talk about a revolution! Whoa nellie!

    So, I guess I’m suggesting to prepare you and your family for the six months of food and water, but I ask you to remove the “fear”. Just prepare and over prepare if you have the wherewithall but don’t be afraid. This is where I’m at today. Tomorrow it might all change, but today, I’m here. What about you? Your thoughts?

  216. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    Poof and Casper stated during the rise and fall of RAP that there were several groups kinda trying to “ride on their coat-tails.” I too believe RAP was a decoy, much like the BC. Was JS a victim or an accomplice…that was always the question for me. If a victim, peace and goodwill. If an accomplice, then the scarlet letters “BM.”

  217. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    HEADS UP – BOB CHAPMAN on RBN

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/?page_id=3

  218. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    Because there are Nesara knock-offs, imitators, decoys, and wanna-bes, I would recommend this link straight from FourWinds News. Packed full of background and current information.

    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/history/

  219. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    Listening to Chapman – now I understand why Lindsey was saying – to try to pay off your mortgage or buy a shanty so that you own it outright. The dollar amt of this mortgage backed securities fraud could go as high as the quadrillions. Which means it is a redux of taking over the car companies – the gov’t is moving towards nationalizing real estate. So, Lindsey’s comment about the gov’t owning both residential and commercial interests fits perfectly with Chapman’s prediction.

  220. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    “Voters in one Nevada city are complaining that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s name was already checked when they went to cast their ballots in early voting Monday, according to Fox5Vegas.com.

    Voters in Boulder City said they were trying to vote for Republican nominee Sharron Angle, but that Reid’s name was checked when they got to the electronic voting machines.

    “Something’s not right,” voter Joyce Ferrara told the network, saying several people reported the same problem. “One person that’s a fluke. Two, that’s strange. But several within a five-minute period of time — that’s wrong.”

    A Clark County voting official said highly sensitive touch-screens may be to blame and that fraud is not the issue.”

  221. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    Gotta go try to stretch my soup one more time for supper. bbl.

  222. Posted October 26, 2010 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    Hi Helen,

    Hope all is well. Hat tip to Mr. Corbett, to you and to all the sharp, genuine Patriots here on this forum. OT–Is it just me or does Obama’s appearance of late seem like he’s aged at least a decade since 2008? Have a good week–back next week to lurk and learn some more.

  223. Posted October 26, 2010 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    Prairie – I always found JS giving a hundred percent to whatever cause would expose the cabal and take out Obama. This seemed to be the driving force behind her passion. My first encounter with JS was based on D’s being the bad guys and R’s being the good guys. Well, I stopped defending anything D in May 2008 and refused to give any positives to R’s after all bowed at Dubya and Cheney’s criminal feet. We had our tete but neither of us were going to back down from our learned passions.

    I’ve had the pleasure of reading many of her thoughts over this last year and it is obvious she is a warrior fighting for her country NOT a party. I can see why one would wonder if she were a “victim” or “accomplice” b/c of her passionate pleas to anyone and everyone to support RAP. But I am of the opinion ALL of those good patriots, desperately seeking a solution to our country’s woes, were victimized by RAP and their dastardly cabal.

    Some patriots allow their passions to drive them while others allow facts to drive them. We here side with facts, and now that we know what is really going on behind Casper’s updates, I think it is fair to state those that were seeking immediate relief were lead astray by the smooth talking salesmen who made up the elder council.

    Btw, just to be totally open, it was Jackie who sent the lawsuit we are reading and learning from today. She sends such critical items to me from time to time. I don’t always post them but I always thank her for keeping me in the loop.

    She is an ally, and moreover, a rather fierce fighter for our country and her constitution.

  224. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    While my supper burns, I need to reply… peace and goodwill it is. I will trust your instinct regarding JS. P.S. CC is still a butt munch. No compromise there from me!

    Also, the Vatic Project has some info and analysis of this court case I was reading there on…Sunday maybe? I’ll see if I can’t find it. Honestly, without sources I have been hesitant to take this leap, I should have trusted you all to not pass judgement on my sanity- That said, I am not passing judgement or holding grudges against JS. I too have fallen victim to Orly, Donofrio, CW, and many more. Yes, reading there from time to time, I have no doubt it is a decoy. Well, supper should be burnt enough to eat now.

  225. Posted October 26, 2010 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Prairie – don’t burn the supper buns! No need to upset the apple cart, eh?

    Trust us, Prairie. All of us are on the same team. That team is designed by sheer grace to explore the varying rabbit holes and to help each other to figure out a) what’s going on, and b) the truth aka “the bottom line”.

  226. JJ
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    I’m on page 76 of the gold/China pdf…I have read stories of gold stolen by BUSH family and Clintons…never understood…

    but, one story was that Bush incorporated used MKultra with the Hood shooting and while the murders were happening, black op choppers were being filled with gold hidden in the basement…sounds crazy??

    I swear that’s what I read!!! And be damned, pieces are really fitting together and I think I need a drink!@

    My question is if Clintons and Bush family stole this much gold, how will they ever spend it and what is their goal now??

  227. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    Add this to your homework pile. Part 1 and 2 of the silver bullet are included in this. The info and analysis as promised.

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=185828

  228. JJ
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    I think we are honestly being prepared for this eminent rather dramatic change which will indeed restore our constitutional form of government issuing her own legal tender backed by the gold and trillions stolen from us by the bankster cabal.
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If all is well then how do we treat the death bed confession given to a pastor of the intentions of the elitist destruction of many coutries to become rulers over the peasants??

  229. JJ
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    But, Helen, if it’s this nice and peachy…why not tell the Americans so they can prepare—and why Napolitano confide in her activist friend, but not prepare the country??

    Isn’t that her fricking job??

    And why tell staffers and insiders in D.C. but not tell America??

    Wouldn’t telling the public definitely avert riots if they were prepared??

  230. JJ
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    JustMePosted October 26, 2010 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    On this we agree__BINGO!!

  231. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    I would follow Lindsey Williams off a cliff before I followed JS off of one. Passion or stupidity matters not to me. just sayin…..

  232. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    JustMe.
    Lol. The venom was nasty, the passion misplaced, and the logic lacking. This said, I learned my lesson about holding onto anger. Remember I didn’t talk to my sister for a year? To this day she thinks I am racist. If she hadn’t got sick I don’t know if we would be talking still. I believe JS was a victim. What really upset me was that she encouraged others to follow her dangerous pursuit. That was reckless.

  233. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    I will add. I know your statement was not about anger it was about trust. I said anger because JS pi$$ed me off on many occasion with personal attacks.

  234. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    Not holding on to anger. I came here to this site under the promise of not having to deal with her wrath – which, for me had NOTHING to do with Dem or Republic argument, as I am neither. Her behavior was the same on every site she ever posted on, even on Greg’s site.

    We are a victim of our own choosing. And, I chose not to be a victim.

  235. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    You are right. Thank you for being you and not biting your tongue. Regardless of if she was a victim of RAP, she treated me with cruelty in her remarks. You will teach me to stand straight yet. Don’t give up.

  236. JustMe
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    to quote Venice from last night, “you’re precious.”

    need to prepare dinner, hubby is circling. lol

    Jim Jones was passionate.

  237. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    Hey JustMe, when you are done with supper read the above part 2 that I addressed to Helen. You will catch up quickly on the law suit and it is revealed how this is tied to Israel and 9/11 and several other countries.

    Helen and all, after reading the silver bullet part 2 I am going to study up on the GAIA CULT.

  238. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    Well, that didn’t take long. This is the same mother Earth chit Prince Charles is spewing. According to VK this is the same cult worship that has infected our government. These dots are finally forming circles…and making me dizzy.

  239. venice
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/232398-will-the-cftc-actually-act-to-protect-silver-investors?source=dashboard_stocks-sectors

    I agree with the author here. The timing of this silver market manipulation is suspect.

    “As Butler and others have documented, a concentrated group of four to eight traders have been responsible for nearly 70 percent of all short positions in silver on the COMEX. These traders have consistently traded in unison to move prices while collecting large profits along the way. It is suspected that JP Morgan holds the majority of these short positions; however the CTFC has refused to acknowledge this and trading positions are not publicly disclosed.”

    “The apparent choice by the CFTC to act is most likely no choice at all. It is a desperate move to maintain the status quo and a reaction to an eminent emergence of either physical shortages or dollar devaluation instigated by a wave of quantitative easing.”

    This complements your posting JM by Devvy above.

  240. JJ
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    PrairiePosted October 26, 2010 at 7:49 pm | Permalink
    JustMe.
    Lol. The venom was nasty, the passion misplaced, and the logic lacking. This said, I learned my lesson about holding onto anger. Remember I didn’t talk to my sister for a year? To this day she thinks I am racist. If she hadn’t got sick I don’t know if we would be talking still. I believe JS was a victim. What really upset me was that she encouraged others to follow her dangerous pursuit. That was reckless.
    !!!!!!!!!!!!

    I didn’t see it that way–being an ex-teacher and JS professing to be an educator also, I expected very different approaches from her..she didn’t pull you along to her convictions, she pushed you in head first..that is why I rarely commented on her preachings…she belittled all who couldn’t see her ways..there was no middle for her—not a good attribute for a teacher.

  241. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    JJ,
    Thank you for sharing. You have great perspective and instinct. I wish you would be the teacher in my boys class room. I wouldn’t have to worry about the global warming, socialist, brain warping agenda of the public schools. You would make some waves here that is for sure.

  242. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Buckle up here we go!

    . . . NASA, America’s space agency, is being charged with leading the way to protect not only the U.S. but the entire world in the event of such a horrifying scenario. And a top White House science adviser says we have to be prepared.

    In separate 10-page letters to the House Committee on Science and Technology and the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation, John Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, or OSTP, outlines plans for “(A) protecting the United States from a near-Earth object that is expected to collide with Earth; and (B) implementing a deflection campaign, in consultation with international bodies, should one be necessary.”

    . . . Remember Dr. Carol Rosin said that Dr. Wernher Von Braun told her that before the ‘extraterrestrial card’ would be played, there would be the threat of asteroids…

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=185860

  243. Prairie
    Posted October 26, 2010 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Setting the table for something.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101027/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_power_outage_nuclear_missiles

  244. Posted October 26, 2010 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    aaaahhhhh, Devy, if I read her opinion correctly supports criminal charges. Impeachment nor the 20th amd, Section 4 – mental incapacity, apply to Obama. Yes, he may have a programmed chip attached to his brain, but I for one do not care nor give a rip as to why he has a big ass scar on his right temple. Why? B/c the excuses are all smoke and mirrors. That’s why.

    Bottom line, Obama and the DNC elite broke the law. Their actions are criminal. Nothing else will suffice but a criminal indictment forcing all of them to get lawyers to plead their case. Nothing!!! Impeachment, mental defect or whatever excuse one may choose to remove him from office is pure poppycock! The only way he and others must be removed is via criminal indictments for fraud. This way, and only this way, are all of the bills and EO’s he’s signed become null and void. To accept anything less is pure selfishness on whomever’s part. He must be indicted. PERIOD!!!!!!

  245. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 7:33 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    I tried to read the rumormills article and geezee, it reminded me of Dr. Parker’s ramblings and being all over the place. lol

    I don’t know who the author is – it was hard to tell. Do you? You should volunteer to help edit their work. lol

    Nonetheless, here is an article dated 1999 from Cliff Kincaid that may help you in your research on the Gaia Cult. I think it might be easier to understand.

    http://www.usasurvival.org/cultofgaia.html

    Also, Joan Veon has written at length of Prince Charles & the fact he is THE driving force for flipping the globe from “God centered” to “Earth Centered.” In 1991, he hosted a 2 day seminar on his yacht and invited a select group to begin the push of his radical agenda. Al Gore was one of them. Others were heads of nations and corporations. You may also want to look up Prince of Wales Business Leaders Forum. This is a big part of it.

    It is Agenda 21 that sets up the GLOBAL infrastructure needed to manage, count and control all of the world’s assets. That includes people and natural resources. They are achieving this goal rapidly by going straight to the local governments – Mayors particularly – and bypassing the federal gov’t. Their motto – “global to local.”

    Michael Shaw at freedomadvocates.org has been sounding the alarm for years about this agenda. Take a look at his site and read the ICLEI primer. I’m sure I posted it on CW’s site a year or two ago, so you may have already seen it. I got the impression that no one really cared their cities were being taken over. Then again, they were so focused on the b/c issue there.

    Let me know if I can help you further – I have Joan’s book “Prince Charles, The Sustainable Prince.” Be happy to look something up.

  246. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 7:46 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    a PS to my post above – what did you think about the author’s comment concerning the “main problem with the Palestinians” was the fact a strip club and gambling casino was being built and it was against their religion?

  247. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    Nov.1998 Palestinian President Yasser Arafat inaugurated Gaza International Airport.

    PLO leader Yasir Arafat and Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu sign a peace accord at Washington, D.C., October 23 (see 1997); worked out at the Wye River Plantation outside Washington, it calls for withdrawal of Israeli troops from another 13 percent of the West Bank, the release of 750 jailed Palestinians, permission for the construction of a Palestinian airport in Gaza, and other concessions in return for a Palestinian crackdown on terrorism and removal of language in the Palestinian Charter calling for Israel’s destruction, but although a majority of Israelis support the Wye River agreement, which has been negotiated with U.S. help, extremists on both sides oppose it, and it unravels in early December (see 1999).

    Starting to dig on airport. It was important enought to be in the agreement. What I make of the comment…not sure.

  248. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    Watching msm this morning drinking coffee, flipping through the headlines on drudge and fr. Here is my thinking…the election itself will be the false flag needed to bring about the riots, the martial law, the blocking of the Nesara announcements once again. Watch as the msm highlights the vast voter fraud, reveals the machines are serviced by SEIU, pumps the polls showing a Republican landslide, and then flips to the fights breaking out just outside the debates (look up the Rand Paul debate if you haven’t seen this). It is my belief, so many elections will be unsettled, going to recounts and court that our country will fall into crisis. Just my thoughts over coffee.

  249. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    I found it rather amusing. The Palestinians are a mixed bag of religions. I believe the video that Helen posted of the Scoffield Bible talked about the fact there was even a Baptist church there.

    The issue with Arafat, Hamas, Nuttyyahoo and the rest is typical political jockeying. Hamas, if you remember, was democratically elected by the Palestinian people. Nuttyyahoo was a bit shocked and has been scrambling ever sense. He USED Hamas to get elected. He trained them, armed them and staged false flag terror events against their own people that insured his being put into power – the evil Likud party. Arafat, leader of Fatah, is also a foe of the democratically elected Hamas government. They have to fend them off, too. It’s a very involved situation that has been allowed to go on for years, pushing the Palestinians, some 1.5 million of them in a tiny area of Gaza without much hope. I read the other day that Israel has even drilled horizontally to tap into the Palestinian’s water supply – severely limiting availability for basic needs.

    That’s why I’m saying the statement about a strip club and casino was a bit crazy.

  250. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    Nesara announcements? Huh? Wasn’t this was part of that RAP crap? What are you saying?

  251. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    Thanks for the background info I needed to understand it. It is crazy…but nothing is sane anymore.

  252. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    Nesara is not RAP. RAP was a decoy for the real program funds. This is what I am thinking. Nesara stems from the farm morgage crisis and the resulting revelation of the massive bank fraud with government involvement. The announcements (and Nesara) were the result of the Supreme Court decision on the side of the farmers. The gag order, put in place by the supremes, was to be lifted and it was to be announced on the morning of 9/11 by Greenspan. This all has to do with the gold in Austria and the White Knights. I know, I know…scifi, Dan Brown, crazy chit. Throw in a few aliens and put Jesus on a spaceship circling Earth Humans and there you have it in a nut shell. But ya know what…I’m thinking reality may be full of some crazy chit.

  253. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    JustMe,
    Please read this to understand Nesara, don’t confuse it with RAP.

    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/history/news.php?q=1283194852

  254. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    Okay, I’ll have a look. I researched Nesara & the originator Dr. Harvey Barnard & the woman, Shaini Goodwin, that started a website and used the premise of it for personal gain. This was all back when the RAP crap started up, and the talk of it being based on similar principles. I think I may have even posted some of it here on the T-Room in its early start-up. I dismissed it after that.

    Why is this all of a sudden hot news again? What do you see in it that moves you so?

  255. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    found this on Dr. Harvey’s (now deceased) website. I remember he has a friend that was trying to keep his proposal alive and continues to run his website.

    Here is an entry from Oct 25, 2010

    October 25, 2010: The bill has not been enacted into law, has not been introduced into Congress, and has not yet been assigned a tracking number. Please contact the President, representatives and senators, and ask if they support the bill. Send them all a copy of the bill (further contact information is available on our Political Contacts page).

    http://nesara.org/main/status_of_the_bill.htm

  256. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    more from his site:

    Shortly after introducing NESARA to the world wide web, certain people latched onto the NESARA idea and began promoting a different version of this story.

    Supporters of the altered version of the NESARA story believe that NESARA was enacted into law secretly during the Clinton administration, that there are “White Knights” working tirelessly behind the political scenes to inform the world of this secret legislation, and that the altered version of NESARA promises numerous debt forgiveness elements. Originally, the altered story did not dispute the original NESARA acronym used by Dr. Barnard, but as the rumors increased, supporters then also altered the NESARA acronym.

  257. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    OKAY, ANOTHER ONE FLEEING THE U.S. FOR THE ELECTIONS – HellCat gone for 2 weeks. Seeing a pattern here, folks. Hmmm…

    Main Headline on Drudge:
    HILLARY FLEES USA FOR ELECTION

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.9a5f4680a5e1a496e50b5779f8c3ad59.21&show_article=1

  258. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    JustMe,
    It is safe to say I haven’t fully made the leap of faith yet. What has moved me in this direction? The writings of Story, Fulford, Casper, Poof, and BioSphere coming together with recent events. The current mortgage fraud being a reflection of the farm foreclosures. The revelations regarding the Queen and the Vatican, which at one time seemed so far fetched in Casper updates that I often dismissed them…now I know the connection. All of this and my gut. Is it a rabbit hole? Perhaps.

  259. Posted October 27, 2010 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    I would add the lawsuit that I posted yesterday. It’s the lawsuit more than anything else that has tipped me a bit more. It is chock full of detail, code, law and so much more. It’s all of the things we’ve talked about and more.

  260. Posted October 27, 2010 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    JustMe, I submitted this post on 2010/10/25 at 3:39pm which sums up all of this swirling information that resembles the bogus RAP. Prairie uses the word decoy, which all of us in one way or another /suggested back when people were flocking to the cause. Prairie and me however knew something wasn’t right about it all b/c of what we were reading by Story. As Prairie stated, this is not RAP. It’s something, lord knows what, but we are still trying to tie all of the dangling pieces together.

    Here is what I posted -

    Story believed and wrote again and again, that the Dollar Refund Programme dollars came from China and the Queen. Right?

    Fulford, Casper Intel and Poofness counter Story’s work by stating it’s the precise opposite and that the Prosperity Packages belong and have always belonged to the American people.

    Who do I believe. Well, I think there are morsels of truth b/w all of what these folks share which is why it is so hard to discern the truth.

    However, Story posted factual documents, letters and provided first source testimony to support his allegations, whereas Fulford, Casper Intel and Poofness share the questionable NESARA legislation. The article you linked us to on the background of NESARA told the entire story w/first source documentation which for the first time made me think, aha, there may very well be some truth to all of this.

    So who knows – I take what makes sense from both and all other sources and attempt to make some sense out of it. Bio Sphere has added to my understanding greatly b/c he sources.

    And you are 100% right, Tesla’s patents were stolen by the PTB. One of those patents was how to make electricity free. Your hubbie is jaded when it comes to Tesla and his brilliance. The man’s mind was of another world. We have rain b/c of his patents. Yes, the Bushie’s and the Schiff’s stole all of his work. This is a fact and has been documented and sourced.

    I guess where I am at is a lot of it makes sense yet it’s from a perspective that I naturally question due to my being NORMAL. LOL.

  261. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    Helen,
    I agree. The idea of debt forgiveness sends one straight for their tin foil…until you see the arguement laid out in this silver bullet case. Also this:

    “History Behind the National Economic Security And Reformation Act (NESARA): In early 1993, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled on charges by the Farmers� Union that banks in the U.S. were fraudulently foreclosing on farm mortgages and that the U.S. government was in collusion with these banks. The testimony and proof brought into court by a retired CIA agent led to further evidence and proof that the Farmers� Union claims were legitimate. It also led to evidence the income tax amendment was never properly ratified by the required number of states and therefore, income taxes were unlawful.”

    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/history/news.php?q=12967574623ec927811c4dc32c962e0e

    P.S. It took the judges 18 months to draw up an implementation plan…which brings us to 1995 and the Monica scandal.

  262. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Helen,
    I was doing some research on NESARA history and the prosperity packs last night. My impression is that the two were at one time not tied. Once Nesara was passed, the refund program, already in existance, became the vehicle to fund the metal backed money. The two linked forces in other words.

  263. Posted October 27, 2010 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    Prairie – I’m with you “tin foil is the new black” It’s nutty stuff and since you are grounded in “reality” and I am “normal” exactly how do we reconcile all of this?

    JJ – you asked last night how this was going to work and suggested I was being peachy. I tend to spin things in a positive way b/c I don’t like to cause fear or panic unless it’s absolutely necessary. So, that said, I believe the six month changeover is going to be wreak havoc in our nation. Those 298 million people who are going about their day and remaining unengaged will absolutely freak out b/c they aren’t prepared for whatever is going to happen during this six month period (remember, why is it six months and not seven, eight or more. why the definitive six months?) So, yes. It’s going to be painful for everyone but more for those who chose not to listen.

    This thought is fresh and only just now occurred to me BUT what if this is the scenario we are facing -

    - chaos at the polls as Prairie suggested
    - the worm virus being unleashed shutting down the grid, water, pc’s etc and the US literally goes dark
    - and the power struggle b/w the Illuminatist’s and the Casper’s of the world at last comes to a head

  264. Posted October 27, 2010 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    that’s quite interesting, Prairie.

    Hey a couple of week’s ago you posted the long version of Nesara’s history. The one you posted today is the shorter version. Do you still have that link for the longer version? I swear I bookmarked it but can’t seem to put my fingers on it.

  265. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    From the depth of my rabbit holes, I have learned this. Under Nesara a temporary government, appointed, takes over for a 6 month (sound familiar) period until constitutional elections can be held. I have seen it written that the 1% transaction fee is the new fair tax system put in place as IRS and Federal Reserve are flushed. In addition, Casper has stated many times that the dark cabal is going down swinging which is going to cause more chaos and harm than a smooth transition.

  266. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    Posted at 9:51 for JustMe, who for once is getting homework from us! lol.

  267. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    If I am “reality” and you are “normal” JustMe must be “sane.” Don’t that beat all?

  268. Posted October 27, 2010 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    That tidbit about the six months makes sense to me. Are you gaining any confidence that the Casper intel group is going to be victorious rather than the dark Illuminatist cabal? I know you’ve been sitting on the fence as have I, but that lawsuit is a game changer for me. Where are you on the fence today?

  269. Posted October 27, 2010 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    ROFLMAO – I’d lop venice into the grounded “sane” and JJ into the “practical sane” categories.

  270. Posted October 27, 2010 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    btw, Doug has a new article up – http://buygoldandsilversafely.com/gold/call-to-sell-gold-and-silver-mining-stocks-was-timely/

  271. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    “How do we reconcile this?” The answer is simple…we can’t. Our beliefs are rooted in a fiction while our reality has been portrayed as non fiction. When the reverse is true we find ourselves in a state of cognitive disconnect. Once again, fear, the fear of letting go, is the weapon of the elite. Percieved reality becomes an invisible fence to herd the sheeple.

  272. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    Wish I knew. Watching the signs, like the road trip schedule for after the election, I would say the cabal is on the run. I doubt highly they are too conerned about the republicans gaining control of the house, they are one in the same.

  273. Posted October 27, 2010 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    BRILLIANT, APPLAUSE!!!

    At this moment I feel sorry for FS over at CWs. Why? He’s put all of his faith in the Supreme Court to fix the 2008 election. Sadly, the Supremes don’t work for we the people – rather they work for the Koch brothers – http://technorati.com/politics/article/a-citizens-united-conspiracy-were-supreme/

  274. Posted October 27, 2010 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    They surely are one and the same. Two heads of the same viper!

  275. Posted October 27, 2010 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    http://www.truthistreason.net/martial-law-economic-meltdown-executive-orders

  276. Posted October 27, 2010 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    gotta run a few errands. bbshortly

  277. JJ
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Also, Joan Veon has written at length of Prince Charles & the fact he is THE driving force for flipping the globe from “God centered” to “Earth Centered

    Might I remind you of # 12 of my list by Pastor Williams of the death bed confession:

    12) world council churches must ‘relieve’ the religion of ‘God’ to bring in new world order

    one example: a pastor in Arizona told Pastor Williams that a new ordinance was just passed in his county that if ANY complaint came to their attention they had the ability to close the doors for good… the complaint can come from an outsider(atheist) and not be confirmed….

  278. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    JJ

    Sorry, but I’m not following you. Remind me of what?

  279. JJ
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Since the conversation is going this way..I trust you have views like mine–well, this big mouth is going to get me in trouble at church with the Israel-chosen-people-promised land-Zionist theme…I found the greatest response without really showing my cards…

    “those who believe in a literal war and are often convinced that christians should work to start this war and participate in it, to support Israel with vigor and even urge our govenment to take an active part in the conflict there, need to be certain that the doctrine he follows is God’s before he advocates a doctrine that would put the blood of men in other’s hands.

  280. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Prairie, Helen,

    Finally my Internet is back up and I’m able to respond.

    I’m not sure where the info on NESERA is coming from. When I go to the site of the author of NESERA, that is maintained by a close friend since his death, and as of Oct. 25, 2010, it indicates the bill was never passed. If you poke around his site further you’ll see that they’ve addressed each point floating around as rumor. He does have his plan posted for all to see – all details – so it would be easy for anyone to “lift” his plan, which is what I heard that one or more of the elders of RAP did. So????

    I don’t doubt the work of Story and I’m just getting to know Fulford’s work, the others are new to me. But…whomever is saying that NESERA has passed should be able to point us in the direction of a bill number. Does one exist?

  281. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    JJ,

    gotcha.

  282. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    I have no idea who this guy who says he wrote Nesara is. This passage may help. No case number- I know, does not add to the validity.

    “Almost unanimously the U.S. Supreme Court Justices ruled in favor of the Farmers� Union. The Justices recognized that overwhelming evidence proved the U.S. government and the Federal Reserve Banking system were perpetrating fraud in many ways upon Americans. The Justices recognized that to remedy this situation, massive reformations would be required. When rulings are made by the U.S. Supreme Court, one or more Justices are assigned to monitor a process by which the rulings are carried out. In this case, five Justices were assigned to a committee to develop steps to implement required government and banking reformations. As the Justices went about developing the required reformations they enlisted the help of experts in economics, monetary systems, banking, Constitutional government and law, and many other related areas. The Justices built coalitions of support and assistance with thousands of people worldwide; these thousands of people working to bring us NESARA have been named “White Knights”. The term “White Knights” was borrowed from the world of big business hostile takeovers when a vulnerable company is “rescued from a hostile takeover by a White Knight� corporation or wealthy person. Certainly, these people fighting to bring Americans and the world the benefits of NESARA and to rescue our people from government and banking fraud deserve to be called �White Knights�.

    Because of the enormously sweeping changes the rulings require, an extremely strict gag order was placed on everyone directly involved and the court case records are sealed until after the reformations are accomplished. To maintain secrecy, the case details for the docket number assigned to the Farmers� Union case were changed so doing a search for this case will fail to reflect the correct information until after the reformations are made public. At every step of the process, anyone directly involved has been required to sign an agreement to keep the U.S. Supreme Court�s process of implementing the required reformations �secret�, or face charges of Treason which are punishable by death.

    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/history/news.php?q=12967574623ec927811c4dc32c962e0e

  283. JJ
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    “JJ – you asked last night how this was going to work and suggested I was being peachy. I tend to spin things in a positive way b/c I don’t like to cause fear or panic unless it’s absolutely necessary. So, that said, I believe the six month changeover is going to be wreak havoc in our nation. Those 298 million people who are going about their day and remaining unengaged will absolutely freak out b/c they aren’t prepared for whatever is going to happen during this six month period (remember, why is it six months and not seven, eight or more. why the definitive six months?) So, yes. It’s going to be painful for everyone but more for those who chose not to listen.

    This thought is fresh and only just now occurred to me BUT what if this is the scenario we are facing -

    - chaos at the polls as Prairie suggested
    - the worm virus being unleashed shutting down the grid, water, pc’s etc and the US literally goes dark
    - and the power struggle b/w the Illuminatist’s and the Casper’s of the world at last comes to a head

    Helen, I think we are all on the same page in most thigs..I am not up to date on NESARA, the Queen, et al.ie…but

    –the PTB shold give this populace credit for being more than stupid and square away what’s going down–to avert riots with preparation(unless, Helen, that is their objective in a sick scenario)LOrd help us if that’s so
    –suspicion big time with the azzhole and Hillary away during elections?? are we stupid?? should we check out maybe who else is missing from our paradise during that time frame??
    –worm virus to totally delete any and all paperwork of any illegal, fake, unauthorized documents pertaining to foreclosure gate…with gas pumps, water, electricity, etc, just being a side effect and side show???

    I also put two gas tanks in Gene’s truck for refill and my tank is always full or near full—Berkey ordered finally and on its way–and going to Aldi’s when Gene gets home and buy ooooodles of ramen noodles w. shrimp flavor…and smiley face delivered propane gas yesterday–I am locked and loaded, literally!!

    AND YOU KNOW INTERNET MUST BE STOPPED–IT’S OUR (WELL, THE INTELLIGENT POPULACE) MAIN FORM OF COMMUNICATION.

    Gene gets home and asks what’s new??? He knows I know lots I’m not telling and I keep telling him to pass the word to his acquaintances–get your money out of the bank—store food..

    And they look at us like we’re crazy!!!

  284. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    JJ,
    Crazy like a fox. LOL. I was headed to town but snow and 50+ mile an hour winds have made me put it off until tomorrow. I am watching out the window as the neigbors shingles fly off.

  285. JJ
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    regarding NESARA;
    the existence of NESARA or face charges of Treason punishable by death; some members of Congress have been charged with obstruction and threatened with Treason charges. Therefore, all members of Congress pretend that NESARA has not been passed in order to comply with the Justices gag order.
    question…why then is it so obvious CONgress is bound and determined to destroy this great nation by giving all to corporations and the elites and anti-little man??

    Everything in this summary is reverse of what is happening now–and making it seem that CONgress is working with the white knights but can’t say they are is sure confusing to anyone observing from outside…it looks like CONgress is working hard against NESARA, not toward a resolution…

    Opinion, anyone??.

    I can’t wrap my head around these concepts lised—it’s just not clicking how anything this huge can e accomplished.

  286. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    found this while I was doing a bit more research. If I remember correctly this is very similar to the crazy woman that capitalized financially on NESERA. I realize things are crazy, and like you would never have guessed a few short years back I’d be in the inquiries that I’m in, but I think this is just getting a little too weird.

    http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/what_is_nesara.htm

  287. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    I’m done with this rabbit trail. Leaving it to those of you with more energy.

    bbl

  288. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    This would have been back in 93,JJ. I read that the millitary had stepped in to get congress to pass it. Helen and I are still trying to wrap our minds around it, luckily my mind is mush and very flexible.

  289. JJ
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    272.
    PrairiePosted October 27, 2010 at 12:09 pm | Permalink
    Helen,
    Wish I knew. Watching the signs, like the road trip schedule for after the election, I would say the cabal is on the run. I doubt highly they are too conerned about the republicans gaining control of the house, they are one in the same.

    Exactly, Prairie, and again we are on the same page–Pastor Williams said the elections are a farce…rigged, fixed..

    Would the ‘fixers’ be afraid that the voters demanding legal elections are pulling resources to ensure that happens??? like exit polling which I would be doing if I was in a huge metro city, but not….for I can see that if hundreds are polled, and thousands are tallied, someone is in trouble!!

  290. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    BTW,

    this link I posted above – The Dove of Oneness is linked to the lady that bilked money (I believe I posted her name above) – in the form of donations to her website – out of folks.

  291. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Forgot the main link:

    http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/nesara_law.htm

  292. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Praire,

    I heard there was a blizzard in your neck of the woods. I thought it was north of you. I can’t even imagine what you’re seeing at this moment. Gives me the shivers. BRRRrrrrrrrr!

    Is this the beginning of winter for you or is it early?

  293. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    this will warm you up – Rivero on now from Hawaii

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/?page_id=3

  294. JJ
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    JustMePosted October 27, 2010 at 1:49 pm | Permalink
    JJ,

    gotcha.
    !!!!!!!

    Of this # 12 I am most worried..for most of us have our religion to get us through this mess with a philosophy of so many options…without God, what do we have??

    That change alone if it ever happens will set off one huge revolution, I think.
    To not attend church, is one thing, to be ordered to not go to church is quite another thing.

  295. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    Rolling down hill like a snowball headed for hell.

    With electronic ballots and absentee votes,
    The chaos has 6 days to swell.

    Will the Kenyan in Chief, appear Monday night…

    To suspend what is left of our rights?

    Will the people concede and be brought to their knees,

    Or stand up, get pi$$ed off, and fight.

    Ohhhh, rolling down hill like a snow ball headed for hell….

    http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/nation-ablaze-with-reports-of-possible-election-tampering

  296. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    JJ,

    out of curiosity, since I am not an organized religion person, if you were sitting in church and your preacher began touting the “greening and love of mother earth” how would you respond. That may not be a fair question since you are more clued in than most.

    I guess what I’m trying to say is this is another means of control and they have used it in the past, present and are planning on using it in the future.

    Thank you for your response.

  297. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    Winter started even earlier last year. My oldest was up north for a football game last night. They couldn’t punt do to the 60 mile an hour winds- the ball went backward. Two kids got sent to the bus with hypotermia symptoms. We beat the best team in the state by 40 points, they were a passing team unable to throw the ball. Overturned semis on the way home he said.

  298. JJ
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    Oh, Prairie..it’s 70′s and beautiful here–no chemtrails anywhere today–blue skies all over…
    I’ve already dried my laundry outside and folded.

  299. JJ
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    this from one site courtesy of JM??

    …The bankers are very worried that people in other countries will rush out to charge new purchases on their credit cards after NESARA is announced.
    This is why the banking systems worldwide will be forced to announce their NESARA-like banking and currency changes and bank debt forgiveness within a few weeks of NESARA’s announcement. If the bankers wait until people have charged large amounts of new purchases, the banks will not make a profit from the pay-off amounts THEY WILL BE RECEIVING to do the bank debt forgiveness.

    MY question is receiving from who–who has the authorization to hand out trillions and who gets what?? how is it assigned, this debt forgiveness?? and how does that make my friend feel who paid for her house when moving here from Cal??

    JUst questions and more questions.

  300. JJ
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    JustMePosted October 27, 2010 at 3:09 pm | Permalink
    JJ,

    out of curiosity, since I am not an organized religion person, if you were sitting in church and your preacher began touting the “greening and love of mother earth” how would you respond. That may not be a fair question since you are more clued in than most.

    I guess what I’m trying to say is this is another means of control and they have used it in the past, present and are planning on using it in the future.

    Thank you for your response.

    It’s so funny..because I am thnking if any church was the last to go green…it’s mine..me clued in??? hopefully on the bad, for it IS going to happen…why?? I can only guess greed…

    My church members don’t even have computers and internet is a concept for the very few.

    I am sooo alone in my thoughts and preparations for what’s surely to come–they can’t continue with their program and it turn out any other way..there will be suffering on levels I don’t think we’re prepared for–I read once that the govt is mandated to be prepared to feed the nation for 3 days…and it could not do that–the grain just isn’t there–

    That’s why I continue with my rant about the rich/elites leaving this country and care not for what a mess it’s in or laws they break…….birds do not poop in their nests.
    The rich are moving to their new homes–wall street–Goldman Sachs–all of the richies.

  301. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    JJ,

    I guess that aloneness could be a good thing or a bad thing and only time will tell….lol

    Hang in there!

  302. JustMe
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Unbelievable – I heard Dr. Parker talk about the fact this was a reality earlier this year. And, here it is. I have a wish list of a few folks to send on this mission, don’t you? lol

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1324192/Nasa-plan-Hundred-Year-Starship–mission-astronauts-Mars-leave-forever.html

  303. Posted October 27, 2010 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    JM – I’m feeling for ya. It’s as nutty as it sounds which is why Prairie and I have just kinda quietly watched and read all of this stuff over the last two years. Because it is nutty and unbelievable.

    Since we’ve been trailing the saga there are several nuances, language being used by Lindsey and others, that conflict with other language others are using.

    For example, we are hearing things like the Global elite have been found out and are determined to destroy the dollar in their wake, or the elite are on the run, the elite are cashing in and leaving the country or one guy wrote he was watching the big yacht’s leaving NYC, tons of them, he claimed to have never seen anything like this before or the dollar is collapsing and then the new $100 dollar bill half treasury note/half gold. Now Hillary is leaving before election day and Obama has over 570 to 800 rooms booked in India. This trip is the longest one scheduled yet. What is that all about? Then we have this six month ordeal – again, not one or three or nine months but six months.

    On the other hand, there is this stuff about Nesara and the lawsuit and other information seeping out.

    It is impossible for me to believe that every wealthy American wants our country to become a socialist/fascist dictatorship. It is impossible for me to believe that our entire military service personnel, active and retired, support bringing in a socialist/fascist dictatorship. I could go on and on. I have to believe the true patriots who swore to protect our country are exercising their powers in some meaningful way. I can’t give up on these folks just yet. Wise people in power saw this coming along time ago and I can’t imagine they’ve just ignored it and hoped it would all go away. Leaders don’t do that. So who the hell knows what this six month standstill means? I just know I’ve been inundated with being educated about this Illumatist Global Elite cabal for three years now, and I’ve heard nor read a counter movement to rid ourselves of this scourge. Why is that?

  304. Posted October 27, 2010 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    If anyone has a Big Lots nearby I strongly encourage you to pick up some food items there. They had a 10 pack of Ramen Noodles for $1. Can’t stand them but got two packs just in case. Also had Campbell Cr of Mushroom and Celery for .75 cents a can. The Dollar Store had a great sale on disinfectant wipes $450 for 150 sheets – we’re stocked now. Stopped by this Mexican Bakery and found all kinds of affordable goodies on the shelves. Just thought I’d pass this along for those who are still stocking.

  305. JJ
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    30 reasons why people should? be getting worried about the economy…

    http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2010/10/30-reasons-why-people-should-be-getting.html

    #1 Corporate insiders are selling off stock at a blinding pace and are looking for the exits. Alan Newman, the editor of the Crosscurrents newsletter, examined a number of the top performing stocks in the market including Google, Apple and Target and found that the ratio of corporate insider stock sold to corporate insider stock purchased over the last six months for those companies was 3,177 to 1. At the group of firms that Newman looked at, corporate insiders had purchased 38,000 shares of stock over the last six months and yet had sold off over 120 million shares.

    #4 In the United States today, there are 5,057 janitors with Ph.D.’s, other doctorates, or professional degrees.

    #7 In the United States today, 317,000 waiters and waitresses have college degrees.

    #10 In the United States today, over 18,000 parking lot attendants have college degrees.

    #13 The number of people unemployed in the state of California is approximately equivalent to the populations of Nevada, New Hampshire and Vermont combined

    #16 In 1985, the U.S. trade deficit with China was 6 million dollars for the entire year. In the month of August alone, the U.S. trade deficit with China was over 28 billion dollars.

    #23 One out of every six Americans is now enrolled in a government anti-poverty program, and yet the number of Americans signing up for food stamps and other social programs just continues to set new all-time records month after month after month.(while Goldman-Sachs took 144 billion bonuses again)

    #27 After analyzing Congressional Budget Office data, Boston University economics professor Laurence J. Kotlikoff came to the conclusion that the U.S. government is now facing a “fiscal gap” of $202 trillion dollars..

    #29 According to the U.S. Treasury Department, the U.S. national debt is rapidly closing in on 14 trillion dollars and and will climb to an estimated $19.6 trillion by 2015.

    As for bargains and I mean great canned goods..a great cut above the ‘sav-a-lot’ and Dollar General here…is this store…

    Aldi’s with 55 cent cans and their vegetables and just about everything I buy there is great….

    I’ve only been disappointed in the beef I buy here…it’s really greasy.

  306. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    JJ,
    We had an Aldi’s where I lived in Indiana. They were great. I will be heading to Sam’s club tomorrow. The winds appear to be calming.

  307. Posted October 27, 2010 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    rup – wipes $4.50 for 150 sheets…not $450 smacks for 150 sheets … ugh!

  308. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Just announced by Shep of Fox that Natzi Pelosi will step down from congress if she does not maintian her speaker position. Perhaps she has reservations on that space flight JustMe.

  309. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    I was gonna give you crap but decided to be nice.

  310. Prairie
    Posted October 27, 2010 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Casper opinion piece from today…
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=185896

  311. Posted October 27, 2010 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    ****NEW POST – h/t Lew Rockwell – 60 Minutes Reports on the 99er’s – Those who have been unemployed for the last two years****

  312. Posted October 27, 2010 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    bring it on, Prairie…LOL, what pray tell were you going to give me crap for??? post reply on the new thread.

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