OPINION

Food, Shelter, Transportation, Security – “Social Collapse Best Practices”

Posted by helen

Lately, most of what this section of The T-Room has been focusing on is how to prepare yourselves and your family for the economic collapse headed our way.

We hosted the movie “The Secret of Oz” a documentary by Ben Still of MoneyMasters to provide you the context and background necessary to understand how America’s financial system is managed, or better, manipulated by the powers that be. It’s a must see film if you want to have a clear and concise understanding of the dollar and how it should work but doesn’t.

Following the Secret of Oz, Doug Eberhardt, owner Buy Gold and Silver Safely blog, provided permission to The T-Room to cross post several of his articles, all of which you can find in the T-Room Opinion Archives. What Doug and others on the thread have been sharing is the need to protect your wealth by purchasing “hard” metals such as gold and silver. The dollar’s worth is collapsing under the weight of “too big to fail”, growing debt, stimulus and now, the criminal foreclosure practices employed by most all banks across the country.

We post such stories to educate, inform and empower you to prepare for the very real and eventual collapse of the dollar. This is not something anyone is making up to scare you, rather it is a warning from those who follow the markets and the dollar for a living and can clearly see what Tiny Tim and Mr. B are doing to inflate the dollar (printing trillions more dollars) which may very well lead to deflation (now $2.70 for a gallon of gas may rise to $27.00 +/- for the same gallon of gas). Therefore, we urge you to turn off the idiot box and start educating yourselves, your families and your neighbors through documentaries, on-line news reports, updates and interviews, and lectures by the brightest and most prepared amongst us.

By turning off the idiot box and turning to alternative media, you will quickly learn most all of us are working to prepare you, Americans, for a collapse never seen before in our lifetimes. Preparation is the key to surviving this “avoidable” collapse. To provide you with a glimpse into what steps you will need to take, I invite you to watch the below lecture given by Dmitry Olov titled “Social Collapse Best Practices.” Please take the time to watch this and learn from others who have survived intentional and deliberate economic collapses in other parts of the world – the USSR.

Dmitry covers four key areas in which to plan and prepare – they are, food, shelter, transportation and personal safety – and he does so with a dry wit and details few have heard before.

Dmitry Orlov – Social Collapse Best Practices

335 Comments

  1. Posted October 19, 2010 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Hi Helen,

    Thanks for the plug. I think its great you are trying to help people understand what’s really going on, and how their information isn’t found through the normal sources we grew up with; “the idiot box.” The bias of the media is easy to spot for those who open their eyes.

    Re; gold and silver price action…

    This pullback in the price of gold and silver is healthy. Since we are in the longest stage of the bull market for the precious metals, there will always come a time when the bull tries to knock a holder of physical gold and silver off.

    Watch all the naysayers come out with their articles now. And who do you think will be there replying?

    My motto for holders of physical gold and silver is always the same; “a holder of physical gold and silver care not that it falls 20% on its way to 100% or more in gains.” Our government and Federal Reserve will see to it that the added stimulus they keep piling on, will not work, so they will keep adding. Eventually this destroys the purchasing power of the currency. It always has.

    Today I released an article on Seeking Alpha. It’s the first one where they made it an “Editors Pick.” My title was;

    “Bernanke Worried About Deflation As His QE2 Rhetoric Continues”

    and they changed the title to:

    “Forget QE2: The Only Commodity to Own Is Gold”

    Either way, I am happy they made it an Editor’s Pick. Here is the link; http://buygoldandsilversafely.com/economy/bernanke-worried-about-deflation-as-his-qe2-rhetoric-continues/

    and the Seeking Alpha link where you can follow my comments in defending the article; http://buygoldandsilversafely.com/economy/bernanke-worried-about-deflation-as-his-qe2-rhetoric-continues/

  2. Posted October 19, 2010 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    Doug – we are the lucky ones. Thanks for giving us permission to cross post your timely articles from time to time. Your new story is linked on the chalkboard Daily Specials. I linked to your site rather than SeekingAlpha. :-)

  3. Posted October 19, 2010 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Helen…interesting times. I just heard through the grapevine that Bill Gross is going to go after Bank of America for some soured mortgages in the MBS packages. Blackrock too.

    B of A can’t afford anymore problems.

    Thanks for the link! Just trying to do my part like you!

  4. JustMe
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    ANOTHER 9/11 VIDEO – eyewitnesses describe explosions, never interviewed. The woman makes a comment about the dust their covered in, “hope this stuff doesn’t kill us.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gOp8cIT6DA&feature=player_embedded#!

  5. venice
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Previous thread.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2010/10/19/china-hike-hits-emerging-markets-trade-everyone-loves/

    China showing its muscle.

  6. JustMe
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Just received this in my email in-box from Jim Sinclair, another financial website I read. Thought I’d share it.

    “It is apparently above the head of most of the sheeple, but today the majority of OTC derivatives known as securitized mortgage debt ended.

    The presence of the NY Fed in this potential litigation says that *the Fed is holding paper which does not qualify for holding* according to its own indenture.

    This is the end of the majority of a pile of garbage two trillion dollars high. This is one of the best reasons to own gold, regardless of the mindless actions of algorithms impacting price today.

    The New York Fed, Pimco and others threaten litigation via demand letters to force the Bank of America to buy back $47 billion in OTC derivatives known as securitized mortgage debt.

    Because the OTC derivative cannot stand the light of day in court, a demand letter is a powerful first tool.”

    I find this amusing in a way…The Fed is holding paper which does not qualify for holding? Now, exactly what qualifies as paper for holding? Worthless fiat currency? LOL

  7. JustMe
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Interesting historical perspective on the means of deception used on the sheeple to shape, mold and control.

    “BY WAY OF DECEPTION WE SHALL DO WAR”

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Spingola/deanna123.htm

  8. Posted October 19, 2010 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    JustMe, Sinclair and I agree on the reasoning. We can talk deflation/inflation till be are blue in the face, but the banking system is what I worry about the most.

    Securitized mortgage debt may be dead, but there are still sub-investment grade derivatives on the books. J.P. Morgan Chase has over a trillion and B of A over $400 billion worth still in that 1-5 year maturity range.

    I saw today the FDIC was trying to shore up their own financial balance sheet. Good luck with that!

  9. venice
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    Doug,

    Have appreciated your article today and the many comments. Keep up your great work!

  10. JustMe
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    HEADS UP – Bob Chapman on RBN right now

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/?page_id=3

  11. JustMe
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Doug,

    Yep, I have found many similarities in what you’ve shared with us here, and you’ve posted elsewhere, to Sinclaire. It’s ALWAYS good to have at least two comparable opinions, isn’t it?!! The no-nonsense, sans- frills, straight forward shootin is always the best.

    I worry about the banking system, too. FDIC couldn’t bail their way out of a sinking ship right now. Oh, wait! They are aboard a sinking ship. Then we have “O” handing it over to the fed, complete with new “sweeping regulatory powers” (I want to make sure I hammer that home – lol).

    Congrats on your being “editor’s pick” on Seeking Alpha, title be damned. See….ya never know. I worked in advertising for close to 20 years. EVERYONE always had to change something on the creative. Many times, when it had made its rounds in the agency and returned to the creative team’s desk it was unrecognizable. So…just changing a title was an easy compromise.

    I ditto Venice’s sincere appreciation.

  12. venice
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    JM,

    Listening to RBN. Thanks.

  13. Posted October 19, 2010 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Venice and JustMe, thanks…

    The change in the title of the article made me look like a gold only guy when I also love silver. Interesting they would do that, but I normally generalize my articles by addressing gold only, so I guess I deserve it, ha.

    I try and read as much as possible and I’m sure, like you, find its hard to keep up. I have a heckler on Seeking Alpha from another article and while he was spending his time bothering me, giving me negative reps (more than half my 19 are from him, lol) he turned me on to an article written by Ben Stein about Warren Buffet that I was able to comment on;

    Warren Buffett: Forget gold, buy stocks

    http://money.cnn.com/2010/10/18/pf/investing/buffett_ben_stein.fortune/

    Of course Warren bought millions of ounces of silver at about $3.50 and sold at $4.50, and Ben Stein is a Keynesian clown;

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north672.html

    And Venice, thanks for the China article. I hadn’t even read that yet, which explains a lot!

  14. Posted October 19, 2010 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    Happy to see y’all are chatting. Thought I’d let y’all know that I got a clean bill of health at my check up today. Cholestorol needs to come down a wee bit 114 but the good cholestorol is at 200. I think my cholesterol is a wee bit high due to all of the inventory I’ve been having to do on Friday nights, lol.

    Need to lose a few pounds too. All is good and I’m going to become an exercise nut…need to get physically ready now that I’ve taken all of the other necessary steps. Oh yeah! Watch out, I’m going to become a hyper woman!!!

  15. Posted October 19, 2010 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    JM – Jesse Ventura on water and 911

  16. JustMe
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    glad to hear about your clean bill of health. I don’t know if I can take you being hyper…lol

    Don’t be fooled by the cholesterol numbers. It is a bit of a myth. If I may…point you in the direction of an alternative, scientifically proven view point. Dr. Kilmer S. McCully, M.D. and his proven theory that your homocysteine level is far more important than cholesterol.

    Sadly, Dr. McCully was ostracized and forced out of his position with a major university, as many are that challenge the status quo that affects big pharma’s profits. There is a serum test available to measure your Homocysteine levels. I let my Internist test for cholesterol to make him happy, but I always request he test the Homocysteine levels. And, I refuse to take any medication for high cholesterol. If my Homocysteine levels are high, I pump up supplements and it comes down appropriately.

    You have to decide what is right for you, but I encourage everyone to check out Dr. McCully’s work. He maintains that the reason the cholesterol in LDL is dangerous is that it carries homocysteine to arteries. So, he is insistent that you control the level of homocysteine in your blood to prevent heart disease. How do you do that? Change your diet and check your intake of B vitamins.

    This homocysteine theory is not speculation, it is proven. It is the cholesterol theory that has never been proven.

  17. venice
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Doug,

    Haven’t identified this heckler(yet). But keep this in mind, if you aren’t aware already. The blogosphere is replete with obots, pushing the elite’s agenda EVERYWHERE.

    I have since stopped reading them (takes up too much time). When you see enough of it, you get to see the pattern. Yes, they follow you and hound you, after you’ve been identified as opposing their cause.

    Don’t give it too much weight. Sometimes they think they are clever and change their names, but the style, their overbearance, and sometimes their outright stupidity, will chrystalize in front of your eyes. Just keep on with your message. Many will hear (and read).

  18. venice
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    Congratulations on your relatively clean bill of health.

  19. venice
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    btw,

    Regular, MODERATE excercise is as important as diet.

  20. JustMe
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    BREAKING NEWS – Israeli Forces, Tanks Invade Gaza

    Backed by tanks, Israeli troops have reportedly invaded the southern Gaza Strip, keeping up Tel Aviv’s regular incursions into the blockaded coastal sliver.

    http://www.presstv.com/detail/147389.html

  21. Posted October 19, 2010 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Venice, I enjoy the conversations with them, as most can’t debate worth a darn. It’s when they retort with abusive language that I stop the conversation, but only after stating I choose not to converse with those who cannot act civil and have a discussion.

    You are right..as waste of your time…

    Glad you are well Helen!

  22. JustMe
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    A MUST READ! Long, but worth it.

    Remember Victor Bount? A Russian connected with 9/11 being held in a prison in Bangkok. The U.S. was recently in negotiations for his extradition.

    Excerpt:

    This missile deems to be totally indestructible, because NATO lacks any means to shot down this missile even if they detect it in advance. In fact, it was demonstrated in the case of the Pentagon attack on 9/11 – NORAD managed to detect the upcoming “Granit” missile at least 6 minutes before it struck the Pentagon.

    http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/2010/10/arms-trafficking-stolen-missiles-soviet.html

  23. Posted October 19, 2010 at 7:00 pm | Permalink

    I clicked on the PressTV link but only a photo and a short description appeared but nothing more. went to Gilad Atzmon’s site and nothing. went to Al Jazeera but nothing. do you have a site we can link here? if so, please post. h

  24. JustMe
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    that’s all the details that’s available. I couldn’t find anything else either. Guess we have to stay tuned. I don’t know the extent of the invasion. I do know their jets invaded Lebanon air space again today, too. Lots of activity going on.

  25. Prairie
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    Check this new article out regarding cinnamon and cholesterol. It also addresses diabetes and high blood pressure. A sprinkle a day!

    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/health/holistic_alternative_medicine/news.php?q=1286909246

  26. Prairie
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    Odd day…shots at the Pentagon.
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/19/shots-hit-pentagon-temporary-lockdown/

  27. Prairie
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Nazi gas chambers…?

    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/history/european/news.php?q=1287423392

  28. Prairie
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    There is a thread at FR on the tanks in Gaza. I will say this about the comments…forgive them for they know not what they do.

  29. fixthefuture911
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/non-wisdom-from-the-talmud-like-the-donkey-non-jews-were-created-to-serve-jews/

  30. Prairie
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    Fix,
    Thanks for the link.

  31. JustMe
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    Well, this is truly interesting. A U.S. flagged boat to Gaza to join other countries in a Freedom Flotilla II in March 2011.

    “…[A]n exciting update report on the plan to send a U.S.-flagged ship as part of the next Freedom Flotilla sailing to break the Israeli blockade of Gaza. Representatives from the US BOAT TO GAZA have just returned from Geneva where an important meeting took place with representatives from Switzerland, Turkey, Greece, Ireland, Norway, Italy, Sweden, Malaysia, the Netherlands and The Free Gaza Movement. US TO GAZA has joined the steering committee of the Freedom Flotilla II and we are now deeply involved as part of the international team planning for the next mission which will be leaving at the end of March 2011.”

    “We must not be deterred by the violent adventures Israel embarks upon and the complicit silence of our governments. THE AUDACITY OF HOPE, the U.S. Boat to Gaza will sail this Spring, bringing human rights advocates from civil society, supported by international law, to the shores of Gaza. In this country we will be on board, whether sailing on the deck of the boat, or standing on the platform this campaign creates speaking against U.S. foreign policy that supports Israel’s abuse of power perpetrated against the people of Palestine and their supporters in the struggle for the Palestinian people’s freedom and dignity, their human rights and for justice.”

    “We need your help. Over the next few months we need you to help spread the word about the mission of the U.S. BOAT TO GAZA through your lists and sites and link people in your network to http://www.ustogaza.org. We will be planning several events leading up to and including the launch of THE AUDACITY OF HOPE and we want you and people in your networks to participate. Most importantly we need you to be the voice and to help create the unique profile of THEAUDACITY OF HOPE by speaking on behalf of this mission as it relates to your work in the struggle for Palestinian rights.”

    http://mondoweiss.net/2010/10/us-boat-to-gaza-to-join-efforts-from-switzerland-turkey-greece-ireland-norway-italy-sweden-malaysia-the-netherlands-to-form-the-freedom-flotilla-ii-in-march-2011.html

  32. JustMe
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    BRAZIL CANCELS PARTICIPATION IN UPCOMING G20 MEETING

    “The latest currency war escalation does not come from any of the usual suspects (the Fed-PBoC-BOJ-ECB-SNB hate pentagongram) but from non-axis player Brazil. ”

    More here:
    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/fx-wars-escalate-brazil-cancels-participation-upcoming-g20-meeting

  33. JustMe
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    Prairie @7:16

    Wow!

  34. JustMe
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    fixthefuture911

    the Rabbi’s words are most telling.

  35. Posted October 19, 2010 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    Prairie @ 7:16 pm kapow wow! So NO GAS CHAMBERS, eh? We’ve been told for at least the last decade or more Jews were extinguished via GAS CHAMBERS…My God Man, has this been a tall tale made up by who??? Is this the big lie Nuttyahoo has been trying to hide? Oh my.

    Saw somewhere today, will go looking for it, that mass graves could not be found either! WTH is going on here? Has Nuttyahoo and his buds been alyin(g) to the world about what really happened to the Jews during WWII? Is there really or was there really ever an Ann Frank or was her story the same as Jessica??? from West by God Virginia? just askin?

  36. Posted October 19, 2010 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    fix, what a bombadastic yahoo!!! I say f’ em!!!! and his senile sick ramblings to his stupid and sophmoric congregation. If I ever have the opportunity to meet him, I shall smack him across the face, and say “you pious old fool, wake up!”

  37. JustMe
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    are these two posts a prelude to your being hyper? lol

    Sorry, couldn’t help myself…time for jammies!

  38. Prairie
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    Crazy isn’t it? Only here could I feel safe enough to share an article like that and admit the mertit of it. I don’t know what I believe… not in Kansas are we? Night.

  39. JustMe
    Posted October 19, 2010 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    There’s always two sides to every story, isn’t there? My mind and eyes are wide open, as I know yours and others here are.

    How are those curtains coming along?

  40. Prairie
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    Every word I type is painful from pricking my little finger tips too often. Thinking I may start sewing or crocheting a pretty Christmas straight jacket for myself for the Holidays. May need one for Helen. LOL.

  41. Prairie
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    Better yet, I could crochet some funky Flash Dance leg warmers for her exercisie routine.

  42. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    ROFLMAO!!! I can just see ‘em now.

  43. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Nothing like planting the seed….

    WILL THE FEDERAL RESERVE CAUSE A CIVIL WAR?
    Tuesday, October 19, 2010
    By Stephen Gandel – Time

    “Try the Federal Reserve. November 3rd is when the Federal Reserve’s next policy committee meeting ends, and if you thought this was just another boring money meeting you would be wrong. It could be the most important meeting in Fed history, maybe. The US central bank is expected to announce its next move to boost the faltering economic recovery.”…

    “Here’s how Zerohedge justifies its prediction of why the Fed’s Nov. 3rd meeting will lead to violence:

    “In a very real sense, Bernanke is throwing Granny and Grandpa down the stairs – on purpose. He is literally threatening those at the lower end of the economic strata, along with all who are retired, with starvation and death, and in a just nation where the rule of law controlled instead of being abused by the kleptocrats he would be facing charges of Seditious Conspiracy, as his policies will inevitably lead to the destruction of our republic.”…

    “So it seems clear what the Fed is likely to do. How the economy, the militias and the rest of us react is up in the air. The count down is on. T minus 15 days to Fedamageddon.”

    Read more: http://curiouscapitalist.blogs.time.com/2010/10/19/will-the-federal-reserves-next-meeting-lead-to-civil-war/#ixzz12uSXfwyv

  44. Posted October 20, 2010 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    I like Peace Signs in all different colors as leg warmers. :-) lol.

  45. Posted October 20, 2010 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    Help spread the word – pass it on

    Embed code isn’t working. Here’s the url http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gc00OiNh5w

  46. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    Woooah, not so fast. While B of A and GMAC say they are ready to resume foreclosures, having corrected all their mistakes, many are skeptical the issued could have been resolved with this kind of lightening speed. But, more importantly, there’s the pesky issue of criminal acts that they must address. It now looks like the FBI is wanting in on a piece of the “ForeclosureGate” action. One thing is for sure, the plaintiff attorneys are seeing dollar signs, AND this is a long way from being over.

    Excerpt:
    “Attorneys general and other officials said bank officials could face civil — and potentially criminal — charges for flouting court procedures in handling foreclosure documents.

    Meanwhile, a federal law enforcement official says the FBI is in the initial stages of trying to determine whether the financial industry may have broken criminal laws in the mortgage foreclosure crisis.

    The law enforcement official says the question is whether some in the industry were acting with criminal intent or were simply overwhelmed by events in the wake of the housing market’s collapse. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is just getting under way.

    Hundreds of judges around the country have the authority to penalize bank officials who violate their procedural rules. They could also force thousands of foreclosure cases to go to full trials rather than issue a quick ruling.”

    More here:
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Banks-unlikely-to-quell-apf-3419464958.html?x=0

  47. Prairie
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    Helen,
    I was thinking more of a shaggy, multi-color eyelash yarn. JustMe would look great in a suede yarn, kinda a chit kickin’ boot look. Me, school colors to look hip on the sidelines. Finally, JJ gets the survivalist camo colors. Can you tell I’m playing today? Thinking I’ll re-do the kitchen next in an OMG canning jar blue with copper leaves.

  48. Posted October 20, 2010 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    Shaggy – right on! Peace out.

    OMG canning jar blue w/copper leaves – sounds lovely.

  49. Prairie
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    Something serious.. banking reform along the NESARA lines for England…

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=185345

  50. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    IN MEMORY OF JOAN VEON
    By Devvy Kidd

    Joan Veon passed away, October 18, 2010.

    “America has lost one of its most ardent freedom fighters and a true lady.”…

    I am speechless and truly saddened by this news that arrived in my email inbox this morning. Devvy, is right. This is a huge loss for our nation.

    Story here:
    http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd487.htm

  51. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    Joan’s obituary is here:

    http://www.womensgroup.org/

  52. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    those colors do sound lovely. The jar blue reminds me of some of the hues of blue in sea glass, which I love. Funny, I just bought new bedding in a deep water shade of blue and the throw pillow has a beautiful copper color pattern on it. Waiting on my “cuddle chairs” to arrive that are also in a copper color fabric. So…I agree with Helen – the combo colors you’ve mentioned are gorgeous. Go for it!

  53. Prairie
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    I think I might. I have a collection of old canning jars and my walls are already a copper color.

    Canning jar of blue speaks gengly of the past.
    Before dinner came prepackaged, never touched by human hands.

  54. Prairie
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    JustMe,
    Great minds think a like.

  55. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Helen,

    excellent video interview of Ventura. He’s really shaking up the complacency a few folks have enjoyed over the years, hey? The information on water fits with what I’ve been reading and writing. The water war is as big as the currency war, if not bigger, for all the reasons he brings up.

    The stuff that went on at Plum Island – known as Lab 257 – is VERY disturbing. I have a book on it. Our government has bastardized a lot of insects/animals that previously were harmless, and delivered such things to our society as; West Nile Virus, Lyme Disease, Hoof and Mouth Disease. The list is very long from that locale. It is most problematic, too, because of the lack of upkeep on the place and the migration route of birds that include that island.

  56. Posted October 20, 2010 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    I like how Jesse wouldn’t give the host a “sound bite” on 911 to use against him in some future commercial. Job well done by Jesse.

  57. Posted October 20, 2010 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    G. Edward Griffen on the UN

  58. Posted October 20, 2010 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    can you all see the Griffin video? I realize this is an odd question, but for whatever reason this pc is not showing html code…hhhmmmm

  59. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    yes, we can see it.

  60. Posted October 20, 2010 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    thanks. now, if I may, please embed a link, JM. anything you want. let’s see if we can get it to work both ways.

  61. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Part 1 of 11 – Documentary: FOOD, INC.

    (warning, you’ll think about food much differently)

  62. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    nope it didn’t work. Here’s the link to the video I tried to embed.

    Video 1 of 11 – FOOD, INC.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyagLY1Nem8

  63. Posted October 20, 2010 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

  64. Posted October 20, 2010 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    JM – can you see the video now?

  65. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    YEP

  66. Posted October 20, 2010 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    awesome. i used the embedded code from your YT url on the public side and it appears to be working. need to test a bit more.

  67. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    Just heard Alex say that China has suspended shipments of their rare earth metals due to this mortgage fraud situation. I’m looking now for confirmation.

    Meanwhile I ran across this interesting website and thought I’d post the link.

    http://banksterreport.blogspot.com/

  68. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    Cool, Helen,

    I started watching that documentary last night. Ugh…it will make you sick and VERY careful about grocery shopping. I’ve understood the importance of a lot of topics they cover and have shopped accordingly for a long while, but I never saw the inside of the industry. It’s very eye opening. I encourage all to watch it as they can.

  69. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    Can’t find any thing that confirms what Alex said that China halted shipments of rare earth metals because of the mortgage fraud. But…I did find an article indicating they halted shipments for another reason – having to do with “green technology.”

    No doubt China is sitting in a very powerful position above the U.S.

    Article is here:
    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.6f626669dcc738e805f26ad8400c014c.51&show_article=1

  70. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    “O” twice drops (edited out) the word “CREATOR” from quotations from Declaration of Independence – just said “endowed with rights.” Oh, yeah….he’s Prince Charles’ boy…that’s Gaia worship…and a U.N. globalist to boot.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=217497

  71. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Guest on Alex’s show – Attorney helping folks with mortgage fraud and foreclosures. Not only is he going after the lenders, he’s going after the judges/courts. Gives you the tools you need at his site.

    http://www.mortgagecrime.com

    The site is newly launching. For info on your mortgage documents, whether or not you’ve been foreclosed on.

  72. Posted October 20, 2010 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    oh yes, China has us over the barrel on this one. look for more actions such as this coming from over yonder. something tells me they are just itching to rule…

  73. Prairie
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    Interesting read on a coming civil war and o’s obsession with Abe.

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=185384

  74. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    oh…..that’s a good one. I always knew in my gut there was something MORE to them positioning him as Abe, but the obvious “thing” is most definitely the “Civil War.” The Brits were very instrumental in pitting the north against the south – they shipped arms to the south. But, what most don’t realize is it was more about the money and resources than it was about freedom. I’m still learning this one. Looking forward to reading the article you posted.

  75. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    This is way way way off topic.

    Did anyone here know if you soaked fish in milk it helps to minimize the “fishy” taste? Or, am I the only one ignorant on this front? lol I’ve soaked chicken in yogurt before for a couple of Indian dishes that I make, but I had no idea it worked in this way with fish.

    I’m gonna try it tonight.

  76. Posted October 20, 2010 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    JM, that’s a new one for me. Had no idea milk would minimize the taste of fish.

  77. Prairie
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    How far will he carry his Lincoln fixation? All the way to the “end”?

  78. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    interesting to see the reference to a “new declaration.” I posted a link earlier today to a WND article earlier referencing his omitting/editing out the word “creator” from it. Things that make you go hmmmm…….

    As we know, they don’t hide anything. It may be cryptic, but it’s always out there in front of us. Personally, I don’t think we are as divided as they were back then. So, I’m not sure the “civil war” will look anything like that one did. I think it’ll be us against the corporations, evident by the mortgage fraud that continues to unfold. It’s a doozie!

    What say you, Prairie, Helen, et al?

  79. Prairie
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Called my bank lady again about refinance. She claimed to not know anything about the mortgage fraud going on in all 50 states. Man. She said. “if I spent all of my time following the latest thing I would not have time to do my job.” Time to find a new bank lady.

  80. Prairie
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    Thank you for the tip on milk. I didn’t know. I do know it works to neutralize the burn of peppers. I had been refinishing an old lamp one day- the stripper and steel wool did a number on my hands. The next day I made homemade salsa with jabenero peppers. A little left over bottle of tylonel with codeine helped too. BTW, bacon works great to take the wild taste out of dark meat like duck, goose, and deer.

  81. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    listen to these 2 podcasts from Alex’s show today – guest is an attorney named Randy. He gives you info to arm yourself. I posted his link above. Two hours of unbelievable info for everyone single of us. I am checking into mine, as well. We refinanced last year.

    http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/alex/1020103.mp3

    http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/alex/1020104.mp3

  82. Posted October 20, 2010 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    this is sad – the deportation of non-Israeli children and their parents – http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2010/10/20101014122340631834.html

    who does this?

  83. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    oops – everyone single of us – too much vino…lol

    every single one of us…

  84. Posted October 20, 2010 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    Prairie – are you serious. Your “bank lady” knew nothing about foreclosuregate? and then had the nerve to insult you b/c you made the time to read and learn? wow! Fire that bank!!! You’d have to be living w/o any form of communication whatsoever NOT to know about this banking meltdown.

  85. Prairie
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    Yes, serious. JustMe, thank you…I will listen for sure. Or as you would put it…for sure listen I will. LOL. Wine sounds good- and I’m a beer girl.

  86. Prairie
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    Hey Helen,
    Think they really don’t know- or they don’t want to talk about it/forbidden to talk about it with costumers?

  87. Posted October 20, 2010 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

    btw, JM, I wanted to tell you earlier how sad it was to learn about Joan Veon. Do you have any details of her death? This is a huge loss and I know how much you respected her and her work. Blessings to her and her family. And a big hug to you.

  88. Posted October 20, 2010 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

    P – that crack is totally unacceptable by my standards. We need to come up with a poem that puts such condescending and ignorant people in their place. something short and witty so we can give it, send it or deliver it whenever such an occasion rises. seriously, something we can all use to bop such droids upside the noggin.

  89. Prairie
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    I need words that rhym with butt munch then.

  90. Posted October 20, 2010 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    Bulgaria posts an article about Brazil’s Labor Party candidate Rouseff – http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=120755

  91. Posted October 20, 2010 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    butt munch

    butt – tut, rut, slut, stunt, nut, soot,
    munch – crunch, crush, bunch, ranch, staunch, raunch

    a few ideas.

  92. Prairie
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    She must have been a heak of a lady to earn your respect. I will read her work.

  93. Posted October 20, 2010 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    JM – Pennsylvania lawsuit targets frakking in water wells. MUST READ

  94. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Prairie

    contribution to butt munch added to Helen’s

    lunch
    punch
    hunch

  95. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    Prairie, Helen

    I’ve been following Joan for the past year. I’ve learned so much from her.

    She saw clearly the path we were going down and was reporting on it long before others.

    She was an average woman like we are, and yet she was both powerful and fearless. She wasn’t a Harvard or Yale grad, she didn’t run in the elite circles, but that didn’t stop her from standing shoulder to shoulder with world leaders.

    No one that I know of has reported on Prince Charles and his global agenda, except Joan Veon. She was truly ahead of her time. It saddens me when the lives of fearless people like Joan are cut short. We owe a debt of gratitude to her, and yet many don’t or perhaps won’t ever know it.

    She did what she was put on this earth to do, and she was at peace with the outcome of her life because of it. My only hope is that I will be able to feel the same.

    Her discoveries are timeless and historical, and yet more relative to all of us today.

  96. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    OMG – the fish was fabulous, girls!!!!

    I seasoned the fish first, salt, pepper, garlic powder. Let it set for approx 20 min. Then poured the milk over it, but seasoned the milk with a bit of the same seasonings and put it in the frig for an hour. I figured if it was going to marinate in milk it might as well be a flavorful marinade. Poured the milk off after an hour, rolled it in panko crumbs topped with fresh parsley and a few pats of REAL butter then baked it. OMG…and no fishy taste.

  97. Posted October 20, 2010 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    JM, your dinner sounds a helluva lot better than my manicotti!!! You really do take good care of that pal of yours don’t you? I smile.

  98. Posted October 20, 2010 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    btw, how did Joan die? Was it a long-term illness or a sudden heart attack, anuerism (sp?)???

  99. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    I mistakenly posted that Randy Kelton, was an attorney. He is not. He is a pro se litigant and advises lawyers. Alex mentions he has his own radio show – Rule of Law. Here is the website for that. http://ruleoflawradio.com/

    The information that Randy presents on Alex’s show fits with the video you posted the other day on the beginnings of this scam during Clinton’s tenure.

  100. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    we take care of each other, and love doing so.

  101. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    Joan died from breast cancer I believe.

  102. JJ
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    I do think this mortgage disaster is like all other disasters in the last 2 years…it was not accidental or an oversight….some corporate guru, and not a medial pencil pusher, was either paid to do this, threatened to do this, or is part of the NWO plan to destroy economy to force the public to the next stage…either this is where the mortgage companies are nationalized or another part of the plan is accomplished we don’t know about…

    I do know that this is from really high up in the corporate world for a blunder this catastrophic to happen.

  103. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    JJ,

    you got it! That is actually discussed on the podcasts I posted earlier from Alex’s show today.

  104. Prairie
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    Go read Marty Didier at 4:23 pm at CW. Current thread.

  105. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    This is such a mind “screwing” – we watch the ads on tv convincing us that our credit score should be “xyz” and if it is we can stand tall. Yet these corrupt yahoos are hoping you aren’t credit worthy and they rake in more monies than if you were good for the monthly payment. It’s sad to think of the psychological effect the loss of a home has on us and yet these criminals are banking – literally – that we can’t. Scums!

  106. Posted October 20, 2010 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    The Hate Mongers Among Us Part 1/4 by Jeff Gates

  107. Posted October 20, 2010 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    Watched just last the “Flying Circus of Venice” i.e., Venice airport and all of the oddities around this small airport and the St. Petersburg one. It’s a seven-part series detailing Atta and companies moves while in Venice, Miami and lord knows where else. This Hopsicker clip should be really good and telling. Thanks for the heads up on Marty’s post, Prairie.

  108. Posted October 20, 2010 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    and Hopsicker was the narrator on that series too. this will be good. the man knows his chit.

  109. JustMe
    Posted October 20, 2010 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    You’re ABSOLUTELY right about Hopsicker. Tarpley quotes him always in his 9/11 “stuff.” I have Hopsicker’s book “Terror Land.” It’s awesome. It’s all about Venice, Florida. That’s a critical element in many of the CIA’s doings, among other nefarious and criminal goings on. Hard to believe the crap the MSM puts out after reading Hopsicker. And…we all know that these talking heads have the same access to this research as we do.

    Thanks for posting the video. Will have a look tomorrow.

  110. JustMe
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    a beautiful organza fabric or even a gorgeous silk would look stunning as a straight jacket. Don’t put that machine away just yet. You could even hand paint a design on the silk. Something to think about….lol

  111. Posted October 21, 2010 at 12:16 am | Permalink

    here’s a link to his site – it has several video’s on the newest release. scroll down to see them http://www.danielhopsicker.tv/

  112. Prairie
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    As promised…the poem.

    There is a void between your ears, you haven’t got a hunch.
    Your lips are always moving but your brain is out to lunch.
    You haven’t got a clue…
    Can’t spell the word IQ.
    Stupid is as stupid does, you’re a bonified Butt Munch.

  113. Prairie
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    Example of a Butt Munch…

    But now the carpetbagger claim has gotten real teeth, as a review of the Florida Bar records reveal that Grayson is not a member. In other words, the multi-millionaire lawyer who is a Congressman from Florida, is not a Florida lawyer! You can check for yourself at http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/MESearch?OpenForm

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2611769/posts

  114. venice
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/231340-gold-and-qe2-buy-the-rumor-sell-the-news?source=dashboard_stocks-sectors

    Again, this addresses financial markets, but the real question is whether we are heading towards another terrorist event on western soil, as major currency wars take place.

  115. venice
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    America I guess is determined not to lose this currency war, is another way to think about it.

  116. JJ
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Ah, yes, Marty and his speaking without speaking…

    You know, EVERYONE and all nations are always declaring what a great country this is…but,is it??

    Or are we just on a different level of ignorance??

  117. Posted October 21, 2010 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    ah geez, I don’t see Tiny Tim or Mr. B fighting to hard for we slaves, venice. but i guess one can be hopeful, eh?

  118. Posted October 21, 2010 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    Prairie – the poem is perfecto!!! We need to print it out and put copies in our purses, backpacks, wallets to hand out when we come upon a Butt Muncher. lol.

  119. JustMe
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    Helen,

    I’m just finishing up the Jeff Gates’ videos you posted above. It’s an interesting montage/compilation hammering home the serious effects of psyops on a society. As all of us here know, it is most difficult & frustrating – even with FACTUAL evidence in hand – to budge old mindsets shaped by this ongoing psyop missions. Don’t forget to include the education system in the psyop mix. Those young minds are fertile and ripe for the picking.

    You’ll remember Gates is the one that exposed McCain Jr and McCain Sr’s long time involvement to suppress the U.S.S. Liberty attack by Israeli planes in his book. An act of war committed against the U.S. and yet NO ONE has ever even *called* for an investigation. Think about that one.

  120. JustMe
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    JJ

    interesting to read your take on mystery man, Marty. I tend to agree with you. He never says anything. Most of what he does say, one could find in a published book, or on the Internet. He just throws in a little, “I was at a party with…,” or “my ex-wife’s family was connected to the mob…” and somehow created a following. I got to the point where I just skipped over his posts. I think he’s there to play games. Probably some lonely old codger getting his kicks from the games.

  121. JustMe
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    HEADS UP – LINDSEY WILLIAMS ON ALEX’S SHOW TODAY – with new bombshell info from his intel

    TUNE IN – Lindsey on next hour (12:00 Central)

    http://www.infowars.com
    or listen on the go 512-646-5000

    Madsen will be popping in today, too.

  122. JJ
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    The foreclosures are not the problem. They’re part of the solution. The problem is that a lot of people bought homes that they COULDN’T AFFORD and they actually need to LEAVE THOSE HOMES so that the people WHO CAN AFFORD them can buy them. They need to RENT something that they can afford.

    Does anyone have a problem with this statement??
    If so, guess who made it??

    Pizzes me off a tad..

    1) ‘not affording’ has nothing to do with losing your job because the big corp. and wall street screwed everybody leading to runaway unemployment..some who’ve been in their homes for years are losing jobs and can’t pay mortgage

    2) leave the homes you may have equity in?? I have lots of equity!!!try refinancing, getting a HELOC, or modification with no job or self-employed, azzhole!!

    3) just who are these people who can afford them?? oh, people like Soros

    4) rent?? with what?? around these parts, if you can pay rent, you can pay a mortgage, sometimes the mortgage is cheaper!!!

  123. JustMe
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    HEADS UP – Madsen up in 5 min on Alex’s show

  124. Posted October 21, 2010 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    JM – do you think it was Shaeffer who leaked the documents??? Makes one wonder, eh?

  125. Posted October 21, 2010 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    btw, about Marty – I think he’s the real deal. He said more in his post yesterday than he has t/o the last couple of years. He linked us to Hopsicker and damn, the investigative work that man has been doing is stunning AND his work is tying up major loose ends re 911. If he’s not the real deal then he’s a mole who is leading readers to deepen their understanding about 911

  126. Prairie
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    Sent you and Helen another post.

  127. JustMe
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    You may be right, but I’m not convinced, yet, that Marty is the real deal. I always thought his statements were mostly general assumptions that any of us on this site, knowing what we know now, could make AND then with the magic of word smithing, personalize it. IF, he did indeed have the inside track, he would have a leg up on the info that Tarpley or Madsen reports.

    I guess you don’t remember that I posted a several threads back Hopsicker’s site and links to his videos. May have been when I was reading and writing about Clinton and the Iran Contra “stuff.” Can’t remember when it was. I think you even commented on one of his videos.

    I guess time will tell.

  128. JustMe
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    LINDSEY IS ON ALEX’S SHOW WITH NEW INFO

    http://www.infowars.com

  129. Posted October 21, 2010 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    here we go!!! folks tune in now to Alex Jone’s show – Pastor Lindsey Williams is telling all http://www.infowars.com scroll down to the right and click on listen

  130. venice
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    For what it’s worth, Marty is a mole.

  131. Posted October 21, 2010 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    Alex needs to learn to not interrupt his guests when they are in the middle of a thought. He needs to learn to write the thought down and ask the questions after the speaker is finished making his point.

  132. JustMe
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    agree. I think he has to do this with Lindsey because Lindsey can go off on tangents worse than Alex. LOL Lindsey will spend hours singing the praises of Alex and then they’re out of time.

    Once he releases this on Alex’s show he’ll appear on other shows on RBN in the next days. He usually has calmed down a bit by then. I think he also appears on Rense, too. Can’t be certain.

  133. JustMe
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    Venice,

    Marty, a mole. Interesting.

  134. Prairie
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    I didn’t even know Trafficant was running…
    http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/jim_traficant_can_win_241.html

  135. Posted October 21, 2010 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    damn venice, I just wrote that in a private email. reading my mind, girl.

    JM – sug, to think I can remember who and where I got info from is giving my brain way too much credit. why? b/c I’m reading and viewing all day and night long. please don’t give me that kind of credit…but that said, it was likely the links you provided back then that I followed which lead me to Hopsicker. I’d never heard about any of his work before and sat here watching the series a couple of weeks ago. I was in awe…kept saying – this is unbelievable!!! anyhoo, I’m confident I’d never have found him had it not been for your work. Everything folks post I read or view. Everything…

  136. Posted October 21, 2010 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Doug, venice and JM – could you verify what Lindsey Williams just reported on Alex’s show –

    Sept 13 – 17, 2010, insider (corporate) trading was at a high of 400 to 1 (individual)
    October 4 – 8 1600 insider trading was at an all time high to 1

    China – gold and silver – buy, buy, buy

  137. Posted October 21, 2010 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    currency of the elite is gold and silver – up, up, up – catastrophic highs. no end to this. by Lindsey

  138. JustMe
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    I heard a caller on a show yesterday with an interesting strategy. He borrowed against the equity in his home to purchase gold and silver. He did this knowing that if the bottom dropped out for him personally, even if he lost his home for one reason or another, he would have created so much wealth with his gold/silver he could pay cash for another home if he wanted. Think about this one.

    Heck, it would be worth it to borrow against your 401k – knowing they’re probably going to confiscate that, too – and purchase gold/silver.

  139. JustMe
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    Helen, these stories by Lindsey is why Alex “guides” the conversation. lol

    I missed that part of the segment. Have to hear it again later.

  140. JustMe
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Hell,

    I think I need to pop a cork with this info. All makes perfect sense, now with the mortgage crisis. See hand slap forehead.

    Problem, reaction solution = Hegelian Dialectic

  141. Posted October 21, 2010 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Explain yourself, JM! lol.

  142. Prairie
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    IsraHell…

    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/fraud/israel/news.php?q=1287623085

  143. JustMe
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    This info that Lindsey is talking about the new ordinances in Arizona against the churches is VERY similar to what Dr. Parker was talking about on his program weekend before last. Hmmmm….

  144. Prairie
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Blackwater bought by Monsanto.

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread620250/pg1

  145. Posted October 21, 2010 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Helen; 1:50 and 1:51pm

    Sept 13 – 17, 2010, insider (corporate) trading was at a high of 400 to 1 (individual)
    October 4 – 8 1600 insider trading was at an all time high to 1

    China – gold and silver – buy, buy, buy

    currency of the elite is gold and silver – up, up, up – catastrophic highs. no end to this. by Lindsey

    ———-

    When you hear an elitist like Soros say “Gold is in a bubble,” you know he is thinking the opposite. He just wants a lower price so he can accumulate more.

    As a matter of fact, he called gold “the ultimate bubble” in February and I pointed out what he was up to right away in;

    Two Faced Soros Says Gold Is the Ultimate Bubble

    http://buygoldandsilversafely.com/gold/two-faced-soros-says-gold-is-the-ultimate-bubble/

    The insider corporate trading stuff I could speculate on, but it’s not important to me per se, unless they are selling. I don’t know if he was claiming they were buying or selling since I didn’t listen to the show, sorry.

    If they are selling, it can mean different things, but most importantly, the wealthy are in need of cash to either keep running the company that is buried in debt (pay salaries of the workers left while hoping for a comeback that will never arrive) or need the cash to pay their own debt (real estate, other loans, etc.).

    If they are buying, which I doubt, then they may know something we don’t know. Remember, many of them meet secretly (a known fact).

    Regarding China buying gold and silver, if you had that much U.S. debt, wouldn’t you want to hedge it? They can’t just dump it. But I’m sure they are as much as they can. From what I had read in the past, the only new debt they are buying from the U.S., are short term treasuries, in their attempt to bleed us for all they can while enriching themselves.

    On a side note, those in congress who want the Chinese to float their currency are clueless. Sure, it may help our own currency, by making theirs stronger, but at what cost?

    Walmart prices would rise as to make up for the appreciation of the currency, the Chinese would have to raise prices. This occurring just when U.S. consumers are already tapped out. Now they’d have to pay more at Walmart? Won’t make for a good Christmas in America….

    China is in control, not debtor nations who preach from the government pulpit.

  146. Posted October 21, 2010 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    Doug, they are selling. Lindsey also advised watching China and Russia closely. Apparently, the contract signed b/w Russia and China where Russia will provide all natural gas and crude oil needs had “no dollar value” to it meaning the Chinese will not use the dollar to back the deal.

    Obviously, geopolitically speaking, China will be the superpower and will have power over the food shelves etc.

  147. venice
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    Haven’t listened to Lindsay, but its clear nations, especially the BRIC countries are putting the squeeze on the U.S. dollar. Increasingly nobody wants the dollar. Russia last year decided to favour even the Canadian dollar over the U.S. Iran decided to buy oil in non U.S. currency. I believe it was in Euros.

    This is why I am becoming increasingly concerned over a “major” event, be it in the MidEast or on American soil. The U.S. will not take this without a brutal fight.

  148. JJ
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    JustMePosted October 21, 2010 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    My husband and I thought of that 2 years ago–the word was if you don’t own your home..hen borrow every penny you cna get as long as you can make the pmts…stock up on guns, ammo, food, supplies, water filter systems, camping supplies, gas, gas and did I say gas???

    We couldn’t because they had tightened regulations and we are self-employed!

  149. venice
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    I will try to listen to Lindsey later.

  150. Posted October 21, 2010 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    hey JM – could you post Lindsay or Lindsey’s podcast here? I don’t know how to do it although The T-Room is a paying member. Thanks in advance. h

  151. Posted October 21, 2010 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    It’s sinking in venice. I was alarmed to learn about the Russia and China deal, but then to learn thousands of the wealthier amongst us are making preparations to leave is damned alarming too.

    I digress, but now that my hard head is understanding this war dynamic a bit better, would it be safe to assume it will all be over who is to be the superpower of the world – China or the US? If I’m reading geopolitics correctly, the US may have the machinery but we neither have the manpower nor the financial power. Therefore, we are definitely sitting in the weaker position IMHO. Am I getting this right?

  152. JustMe
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Helen, et al

    Here ya go. The podcasts for Alex’s show today – Lindsey Williams guest. Another death bed conversation with his global elite “friend.”

    Hour #2
    http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/alex/1021102.mp3

    Hour #3
    http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/alex/1021103.mp3

    Hour #4 Lindsey may carry over into this last segment. Don’t know.
    http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/alex/1021104.mp3

  153. venice
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    Yes Helen,

    I believe, in a nutshell, that that is what is happening. This is why have been preoccupied with China for over a year now.

  154. venice
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    I’ll add few more things. NOBODY will benefit from this tension between the U.S. and China, and I believe that China it is greater wisdom, will do what it can to protect its country first, all the while dampening geopolitical tensions. That I do believe.

  155. venice
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    in its

  156. Prairie
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    So this would be the new global power? Great.

    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/environment/pollution/news.php?q=1287415719

  157. Posted October 21, 2010 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    got it, venice. the piece I was mis reading was the China piece. it smacked me upside the head today. yeah!!!

  158. Posted October 21, 2010 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    Prairie – those photos are filled with sadness. China treats their people as slaves to their hubris drive to super power. No wonder they immigrate here building a life for their families. God bless them all.

  159. Prairie
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    Back track up the thread and read my post titled IsraHell.

  160. Posted October 21, 2010 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    I did. Joe was the pastor I posted a couple of week’s ago urging folks to listen to his audio of his trip to Palestine. He is the one that talks about the Scofield Bible and how it is the only such christian literature that teaches it’s congregation to support war. War of any kind. This is the bible Falwell and likely Hagee use, not sure about Robertson or others, but I did call Liberty Univ, Jerry’s school, and they confirmed the Scofield Bible was used in their bible classes and study classes.

    Understand, after Scofield died in the early 40′s, the Rothschild’s hired Stanford Research Institute to edit and mass market the Scofield Bible to build a christian fundamentalist movement. This is the exact practice the Rothy’s used to infiltrate Judaism, that is, their liturgy was the Torah, but the Talmud was introduced to the more fundamentalist’s part of Judaism which teaches similar hate filled gentile messages as the Talmud does.

    To make my point abundantly clear – True Jew’s embrace the Torah which speaks of love and peace amongst all people, however the greedy mentally sick amongst us wrote the Talmud which was published by the Rothy’s centuries after the Torah was put on paper. The Talmud is designed to speak to the more, how do say this, naive, easily impressionable, lower educated classes of Judaism. It worked. These Talmud worshippers are those we refer to as Zionist’s, Likud Party or radical. It is all b/c of the Talmud and those who were paid by the Rothy’s to infiltrate Jewish synagogues and other worship centers to elevate the Talmud to biblical proportions.

  161. Posted October 21, 2010 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    The Rothy’s and company accomplished the same devious fete in the early part of the 20th Century here in America w/the christian population. You see, Scofield, according to Pastor Joe, was just a guy trying to make a buck. Once the Rothy’s read his material they made sure he was taken care of until he departed. Once he died, they took his material and heavily edited, which Pastor Joe shows you in his video. They intentionally took words and meanings and parables way out of context to the point to where Scofield’s original work looks nothing like his original work today. Watch the videos to give yourself a greater understanding.

    Once the Rothy’s had their new Scofield/Talmud liturgy in hand, they went about marketing it to Pastors looking to build a congregation and make money on their snake oil. Falwell is one such critter. He was raised poor and on the opposite side of the tracks, so to speak. He started Thomas Road Baptist Church in basements of businesses. It grew to Thomas Road which is now a rather large ampitheater where his sons now preach. Jerry died of a massive heart attack two years ago.

    Recall, however, Jerry and company teamed up with the Republican Party when Reagan ran for POTUS. Jerry was hungry to tower over those elite in the Lynchburg area, blue bloods of Virginia, b/c they spoke ill of him and his flock. He wanted to pay them back. There is nothing Christian about Jerry and the empire he built before his death. Religion is a profit center and that is it! How do I know this? Well, I lived in Lynchburg, Virginia for nearly a decade. I’d run into Jerry often. I’d also have his students knock on my door begging for food, bus money or a place to live for the semester. These same impressionable young souls would also knock on my door and want to convert me…you know, teach me God’s lessons. I loved, loved, loved these conversations b/c I’d invite the kids to sit on the patio, I’d make some lemonade or tea and bring out whatever sweets I had in the house and ask questions. Boy did they love to talk and did I love to listen.

    I knew I wanted to major in Religion but couldn’t make a living at it at my late age. Therefore, I minored in it and my Sr. paper was fundamentalist influence on hate in daughters. Way ahead of my time. Got a B. LOL.

    Long story short, I know Falwell, his University and his freakish view on the world. I also know several of Jerry’s former students. Hell, one of my dearest friends, with whom I’ve lost contact with over the years lived in Papua New Guinea in the 60′s and 70′s. Only two places in the world that produce offspring with purple lips – Papua and Egypt. Go figure.

    Hope this helps. Pastor Joe turned on the light bulb for me and helped me to understand how these derelicts of our society infiltrated both the peaceful and loving religions of Judaism and Christianity. I get it now and hope you and those reading do too.

  162. Prairie
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    I so appreciate the explaination. Thank you for taking the time and helping me understand. It was struggling with the distinction and let much of the earlier discussion go over my head. I get it now.

  163. Posted October 21, 2010 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    I’m on a roll. Haven’t talked about this stuff in years.

    What Pastor Joe helped me to understand is this – the Talmud is to the Jew the same as the Scofield Bible is to the Christian. The Rothy’s and company figured out long ago how to infiltrate and destroy a religion. Their test began with Judaism via the Talmud then WWI and WWII. Jew’s became victims of the Talmud loving Jew. Just like Christian’s have become the victims of the Scofield loving Christian.

    The Talmud and the Scofield Bible serve the same nefarious purpose – infiltrate, sell war, sell Israelites are the chosen people, sell hatred, sell war and serving in war as honorable…serving God’s purpose. That simple and they’ve succeeded. Sad but true.

  164. Posted October 21, 2010 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    that’s a great thing, Prairie, b/c only five or ten of us do. welcome, lol, but it is the truth and thank God the Almighty for Pastor Joe

  165. Prairie
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    In fact, I read you three times now to make sure I got it!

  166. Posted October 21, 2010 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    btw, this means, Prairie, you’ll need to get up to speed and educate, educate, educate others. Damned critical if you asked me. Maybe we could write a bible…are you interested???

    anyhoo, kidding aside, there are few of us “outsiders” that get this BUT there is an army of former Jerry kids who do get it and I’m sure just waiting for someone like us to come along to give them a mic to tell their story.

    I know the kind of kids Jerry recruited to his University in the 80′s and 90′s. Trust me, they were rather rebellious souls who didn’t like or appreciate the chains placed on them.

  167. JustMe
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    9/11 – Another video of “The Tower is Coming Down – Get out of the area.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fOYoG2QzSs&feature=player_embedded

  168. venice
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Just to recap interview with William Lindsey in above links posted by JM:

    1. Russia and China have just signed a contract with an agreement that Russia will supply oil and natural gas to China, NOT denominated in dollars. The significance of this is huge.

    2. Middleast war is scheduled to take place in the next 3 to 4 months. Not clear whether Israel, West Bank involved.

    3. Oil will shoot up to anywhere between $150.00 to $250.00/barrel. Gas will see 4 to 5 dollars at the pump.

    4. The Fed is gearing up to own all mortgages in America.

    5. Gold/silver will skyrocket almost immediately, with no ceiling forecasted.

    6. The American dollar as it currently exists will no longer by 2012.

    7. There are threats of possible cyberwar. Supplies of food and water are strongly recommeneded for 6 months.

    8. China is no longer on amicable terms with the U.S. As they rid themselves of t-bills, the Federal Reserve are buying their own.

    9. The elites create crises to gain greater control. Examples:

    a. Israel released a cyberworm a month ago, giving reason ultimately to take over cyberspace.

    b. Mortgage crisis will allow Federal Reserve to bail out MBS (mortgage backed securities) which will ultimately allow them to own all commercial/residential real estate.

  169. venice
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4939254&c=AME&s=TOP

    This refers to 9(a) above.

  170. Posted October 21, 2010 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

    Excellent summary of Lindsey’s intel, venice. Thank you for pulling this all together for the readers. :-)

  171. venice
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 10:49 pm | Permalink

    Happy to do it Helen.

  172. venice
    Posted October 21, 2010 at 10:51 pm | Permalink

    It is afterall, perhaps the most important to know right now. I should add that gold and silver is regarded, after food and water, the only protection one can obtain against the forces of the elite.

  173. fixthefuture911
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 2:06 am | Permalink

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=11525

    in May, 1989, advertising a seminar for attorneys who want to be on the leading edge of an explosive new area of law”—suing churches, Christian leaders and Christian activists. The seminar was entitled: “Expanding Use of Tort Law Against Religions.” While this would trigger a new phase of attacks on Christianity, in reality, the assault on the Christian Church was launched shortly after the end of World War II with the birth of the United Nations and the reemergence of the globalist movement that lay dormant for two decades

  174. fixthefuture911
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 2:18 am | Permalink

    Lawyers Turn to Talmud for Continuing Education
    By Beth Schwartzapfel
    Published January 16, 2008, issue of January 18, 2008.

    Read more: http://forward.com/articles/12471/#ixzz12mmSmoBG
    ( your court system)

  175. fixthefuture911
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 2:23 am | Permalink

    http://iatlaw.org/
    The Institute of American and Talmudic Law IAT Law is a non-profit organization providing continuing legal education CLE to attorneys and other professionals.
    IAT Law provides the most innovative and entertaining programs on a wide range of topics while comparing American and Talmudic Law.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/20/rachel-corrie-case-israeli-soldier-to-testify-anonymously/

  176. fixthefuture911
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 2:32 am | Permalink

    when you or a friend/relative go to court for say a foreclosure(demand they produce the note)
    Question : in the Court venue you may want to enquire if this case is being placed within the “envelope” of the talmud??

    US Judges Tout The Talmud!

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING as separation of ’synagogue and state’ in America. The hypocrisy of the Judaics in America is again brought to the fore with the recent Talmudic Symposium held in New Jersey on July 17 2008.

    The Symposium was hosted by the Institute of American and Talmudic Law. Some 200 Judaic & Gentile attorneys were present who listened “spellbound” to the guest speakers: New Jersey Supreme Court Justices Barry Albin and Stuart Rabner – both Judaics.

    http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=241

    A lot of people are quite aggravated with the scam banks/courts, I am looking for
    /expect some substantial changes over the next several months, this nonsense will & is being changed!!

  177. fixthefuture911
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 2:46 am | Permalink

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/20/who-let-the-gmos-out/

  178. fixthefuture911
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 2:46 am | Permalink

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/21/john-bachmann-monsanto-board-member-hides-position-from-us-chamber-of-commerce/

  179. fixthefuture911
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 2:52 am | Permalink

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/20/gordon-duff-israeli-rabbi-gentiles-need-to-die/

  180. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 3:05 am | Permalink

    WHITE HOUSE TRYING TO REMOVE “O” FROM OFFICE – Friday, Oct 22, 2010

    I GUESS IT’S OFFICIAL – this is exactly what Wayne Madsen reported would happen, as per an insider and revealed by a blogger on the Internet. I believe posting under the name “Ulsterman” or something similar.

    “A US analyst says some officials in the White House and the administration are considering legal action to remove Barack Obama from presidency.

    “Right now, there is discussion in Washington and within the government of using the 25th amendment to the US Constitution to remove Obama from office,” Edward Spannaus from Executive Intelligence Review said in an interview with Press TV on Friday.

    The amendment allows for removing the president if he/she has incapacity either physically or mentally.

    “In this case, Obama is mentally incapable of fulfilling the office of president,” Spannaus went on to say.

    Referring to Obama’s plummeting popularity, mostly due to the recent economic collapse in the US, Spannaus said, “There is no way that his presidency could be salvaged at this point and it does not really make any difference who wins the congressional elections.”

    “He was not qualified to be the president in the first place. He was put in there precisely because he would act as a puppet and they knew he would be a puppet for Wall Street, for the London financiers and for the British,” Spannaus added.

    A recent survey from Gallup has revealed that more than half of American voters would not support the incumbent US president’s re-election.

    A recent survey from Gallup has revealed that more than half of American voters would not support the re-election of President Barack Obama.

    Snipped from:
    http://www.presstv.com/detail/147724.html

  181. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 4:42 am | Permalink

    These are great! – NULLIFY NOW! – Sept 6, 2010

    Thomas E. Woods / Mises / State Nullification

    video part 1 of 4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd0g41EgNQM&feature=related

    Woods says: “Two Documents are seminal to our history, The Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions of 1798. Madison and Jefferson urging us that the states have a Constitutional role to play. Virginia Resolution says when the Fed gov’t goes beyond, the states are “duty bound” to resist.”

  182. Posted October 22, 2010 at 7:53 am | Permalink

    Hi all, appreciate the info on Lyndsey. I am going to hold off commenting anymore on it until I get back from a conference I am attending “2010 Conference on The Future” in Michigan Nov. 12-14. Two of the people I quoted in my book, Nicole Foss and Steve Keen (PhD economist Australia) are attending, along with many others who I want to meet and listen to.

    Here’s what the conference is about;

    “A conference on energy, economy, and environment; the interactions between these; a study of projections for the future; understanding, responding to, and preventing recessions, deflation’s and collapses; and achieving sustainability.”

    Regarding China, I think this guy sums up what’s happening quite well;

    “The victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.” Sun Tzu

    Which of these describes the U.S., and which China?

    JustMe, Tom Woods is great….

    And Helen, you do a great job of explaining the Christian right! In addressing them, I’m sure you have found it difficult to get through the propaganda they have been taught.

    Keep up the good work!

  183. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 8:40 am | Permalink

    Doug,

    The man who Pastor Williams receives his information from is one of the elites. The last couple of times Lindsey had contacted him he gave him a “death bed” confessional. Last time, and it sounds like again this time, Lindsey was a bit freaked out after talking to him – because they’ve accelerated the time line.

    For you Doug, and others who are interested, here is a link to a FREE online version of his book he wrote spilling the beans about the fact there is NO energy crisis. It’s worth the read and eye opening. You may have heard him say his life was threatened when he exposed this. I believe the man’s name that Lindsey talks to is actually in the book somewhere. “The Energy Non-Crisis” – the truth about the Alaskan oil and gas reserves.

    http://www.reformation.org/energy-non-crisis.html

    Looking forward to hearing from you after your conference in November. Sounds interesting.

  184. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    This was an interesting tidbit I gleaned from Alex’s interview with Lindsey yesterday. Thought I’d post it for grins.

    Lindsey said, the dollar is completely dead in 2012.

    Interesting, this is the same year (Dec 2012) the 100 year Federal Reserve Charter expires.

    Also interesting it is the same month/year of the Mayan Calendar prediction – December, 2012.

    Looks like 2012 is gonna be a heck of a year!

  185. venice
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    JM 3:05 am

    Looks like you had a late night. O’s presidency will be terminated prematurely it seems. They’re working faster than I thought they would. Consistent with Lindsey’s comment about the elites ramping up their time frame.

    There’s many indicators now blaring with signs of a significant correction in the markets.

    Hold onto your gold and silver. It’s scheduled to soar to 1600 in early 2011.

  186. venice
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    Doug,

    As JM I too will be very interested in the conference you’re attending. If I had time, I would go myself.

  187. venice
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69L0FC20101022

    Despite the ambiguity of this article, looks like the Fed is positioned to push for further economic stimulus.

    As an aside, Canada,on Tuesday, for the first time this year did not raise interest rates, deferring such until further notice. Not a good sign.

  188. fixthefuture911
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/21/terror-cell-leader-faces-death-sentence-in-israel/

  189. venice
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 9:27 am | Permalink

    http://enviromich.blogspot.com/2010/10/em-conference-on-future-energy-economy.html

    Here are the specifics of the conference for anyone interested.

  190. Posted October 22, 2010 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    Hi Venice,

    Here’s a better link: http://localfuture.org/conferences.htm

    JM, will look at that book. Thanks!

    I thought G. Edward Griffin did a good job of explaining the “cause” of the future that the elitist would get behind; environmentalism. It does all seem to be coming into place.

    But I can’t get caught up in that, not that its not important, as I am not a scientist by training. My goal is to expose the root problems; the machinations of the Federal Reserve system.

    This is an area I can tangle with the big boys and girls as I’m not intimidated by any of them, despite what degrees they may hold.

    I think if we all pick what we’re good at, we can collectively make a difference. At least that’s my theory…

  191. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    Venice,

    It was a funny moment…my husband and I met in the den in the wee hours of the morning. Neither one of us could sleep; brains wouldn’t shut down. Ugh!

  192. venice
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    Doug,

    You’re holding your own very well. So looking forward to what you have to report.

  193. venice
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/DN-broden_22tex.ART0.State.Edition1.33278a9.html

    Perfect setup for scapegoating O (despite his deficiencies). As Lindsey says, everything is moving along as planned.

  194. Posted October 22, 2010 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    Y’all have been busy this morning. Great comments.

    Doug, I’m a religion minor b/c of Jerry Falwell. I wanted to learn all I could about the origins and histories of religions to better understand what he was preaching. That’s why I so enjoyed the conversations with his students who’d come around the neighborhood to save us heathens. Jerry is a topic I am intimately familiar with. Thanks for the kind words especially knowing this is one of your favorite subjects as well.

    All – Obama needs to be criminally removed. We should stand for nothing less. By removing him via the 25th amd on mental impairment, we the people lose. Why? B/c every bill and EO he’s signed remains in place. If criminally removed all said bills and EOs become moot. Even more importantly the DemRats who illegally got his name on the general ballot need to be held criminally responsible. They broke state laws and they committed fraud against the souvereign people.

  195. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Helen,
    Exactly, yet, they will not remove him any other way because it doesn’t save their own hides. Everyone from the msm to the SCOTUS is now guilty of fraud nothing short of treason. Besides, the republicans want and support all of the NWO legislation and executive power. Simply put, o just did their dirty work. I think his removal now is because they know the American sheeple will not support him in a war with Iran. They need to bring in a neocon to push us there.

  196. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Department of Justice (DOJ) is preparing to sue Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan because, get this, premiums are too low.

    Specifically, because the insurer negotiates with hospitals and other health care providers for the lowest possible rates for its customers, Obama’s DOJ is arguing that that is increasing the costs for everyone else. Never mind that Blue Cross covers 2.4 million people in Michigan, or about 27.7 percent of those with insurance in the state.

    Those 2.4 million people just are not paying enough, according to Obama.

    http://netrightdaily.com/2010/10/the-lies-of-obamacare/

  197. Posted October 22, 2010 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    You make a great point, Prairie. Who do you believe this neocon is? Hillary? Helen Thomas refers to Hillary as a hawk. Wondering if this might be the direction you think we are headed in.

  198. Posted October 22, 2010 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    http://www.debka.com/article/9093/ – US deploys second air carrier to the Persian Gulf w/60 planes – yep, Lindsey said 3 to 4 months???

  199. venice
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Prairie, 11:41am

    Fully agree.

  200. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    Hillary would be the obvious canidate and would fall into the line of succession. I think Powell will get into this mess somehow. Why? Just a hunch…African American (saves face with their base), experience, turncoat who offered crucial support to the NWO Barky machine (likely not for free), and finally a big Neocon. I know it might not make sense, it’s just a gut feeling he will get mixed in. Pelosi is definately out, she is too toxic. Biden is a boob and even the left knows it- the people won’t go to war for Biden. He is a joke. Think of this… if they did use the elibibility issue could they bring back Bush or Cheney declaring a state of emergency and constitutional crisis since November of 08? Hmmm…just thoughts.

  201. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    HEADS UP – on now

    Alex will have Bob Chapman on today – his usual Friday spot.

    Another guest is Col. Schaeffer, author of Operation Dark Heart – this is the book the Pentagon destroyed 9,500 copies of – and I believe he just said Webster Tarpley, too. Also he’ll be expanding on Lindsey’s news from yesterday.

    http://www.infowars.com
    or on the go or in the cubicle (lol) 512-646-5000

  202. Posted October 22, 2010 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    from the 5 Minute Forecast – China lowers the boom – http://5minforecast.agorafinancial.com/china-lowers-the-boom/

  203. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    Venice and Helen,
    In addition, think of all the Muslim propoganda right now- be scared they won’t let you fry bacon was in the news yesterday. They demand a school holiday, they yada yada yada… Americans are bouncing off the walls right now with Muslim fear, hatred, and prejudice at the level of an ADD 5 year old on Red Bull and Pixy sticks. Juan Williams and Fox news know damn well what they are doing. Chumming the waters.

  204. Posted October 22, 2010 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    fyi – the easiest way to listen to Alex is to click on the “listen now” ad right below the box announcing who his guests are. it’s a small ad w/Alex’s face that has an embedded “listen now” link. Some folks have trouble figuring out how to best listen to him and this is the easiest way I’ve learned how too.

  205. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Please watch this twisted video, it is not only funny it means that their may be an epidemic of ODD in America (Oppositional defiant disorder (ODD) is described by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) as an ongoing pattern of disobedient and defiant behavior toward authority figures.) I think i have it bad.

    http://freedomslighthouse.net/2010/10/22/new-video-spoofs-democrat-sen-barbara-boxers-infamous-call-me-senator-moment-video/

  206. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    Just thinking more about things Lindsey Williams said.

    looks like this latest news of the “discovery” of mortgage fraud was intentionally unleashed/leaked, and according to their plan based on what Lindsey says. He said look for another gov’t bailout to the tune of $2-7 Trillion dollars as the federal government sides with the bankers. Let’s see how that news will go over with the people. IMHO, THIS “leak” of the PLANNED mortgage fraud is their last chance to loot and rob the American taxpayers before bringing in their control methods. I don’t believe the people will stand for this. I think we’ll see people in the street for that bailout.

    This will be on the heels of the largest tax increase in the history of the U.S. beginning Jan 1.

    We are seeing “signs” of excelleration now, as Venice has pointed out. Prairie posted a link to an article – Time Mag front cover article – on Civil War recently. It’s just part of laying the necessary ground work – a psyop – using all resources and mediums available to them to, all the while working towards their ultimate goal of total economic destruction.

    Saw an article/pic on infowars site this morning about a mean looking tank that will be used in some bad Chicago neighborhood. This is them showing us their “teeth,” so to speak, like an animal on the defensive. They’ll continue to parade their brute force paraphenilia like this in front of us from now on, to intimidate us as part of their fear tactic. We have to remember that fear their big motivator.

  207. Posted October 22, 2010 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    Especially against “stupid” authority figures…LOL.

  208. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    at the level of an ADD 5 year old on Red Bull and Pixy sticks.

    HILARIOUS!

  209. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    SO,

    if the word is out – thinking Press TV article posted earlier – that the 25th amendment will be used AND the fact it said he wasn’t qualified in the first place…are we back to the question of who falls in line or is there even a legal legit, line to the heir apparent?

    I couldn’t agree with you more, Helen, about repealing or nullifying everything that has been passed/instituted since he stepped foot on the White House lawn.

  210. Posted October 22, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    JM – it always goes back to those two men, doesn’t it? I still believe they are heavily influencing the Pentagon. No doubt in my mind.

  211. Posted October 22, 2010 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Shaeffer is on now. This should be good.

  212. Posted October 22, 2010 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    btw, did anyone else catch the nugget Tarpley shared regarding Allawi? Due to the preemptive war legislation passed in 2002, Congress gave unlimited authority to the Executive to strike any country harboring terrorists. Well, if the Army and CIA have built this “aura” of threat around Allawi then any country he steps into they can then attack that country. How dubious is that? Our government and military build a bogey man terrorist and wherever they send him we can then attack that country. Wow!

  213. Posted October 22, 2010 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    Venice, thanks…I did btw, write a letter to the Seeking Alpha editors on their bias. I’m trying to help investors in gold and silver and they refuse to make two of my posts now articles. I specifically want them to tell me why they won’t allow this information to be known. Then of course, depending on their answers, will expose if I have to. I like exposing!

    JustMe,

    “He said look for another gov’t bailout to the tune of $2-7 Trillion dollars as the federal government sides with the bankers.

    I 100% think this will happen. It has to. It won’t matter if Republicans are in control like under Bush again either. It will be to “save the nation” as it were. The banks are what I concentrate on more because its public information (balance sheets) unlike the secretive Fed.

    It’s all a joke on We the People…at least the one’s who make up what’s left of the production of society.

  214. Posted October 22, 2010 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    rup – Awlaki not Allawi. my bad.

  215. Posted October 22, 2010 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Prarie at 12:12 pm,

    Absolutely. Every time I urn on Fox News and read the bottom ticker, it’s Muslim this and Mosque that with Al qaeda sprinkled on top.

    Osama is dead, but the scare tactics will never die. The conversations I had on Michele Malkin’s site were classic during the last run-up to the election. I challenged any and everyone to a debate, picking their candidate versus mine. Only had one person take up the offer. The rest just parroted what some media hack said. When challenged, they disappear.

  216. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Add this to the chumming of the waters…

    “The Koran gives Muslims the right to judge Christians and kill them with Jihad,” he said. “It gives orders to impose religion with force, with the sword. For this reason, Muslims don’t recognise the freedom of religion among themselves or others.” Pope Benedict XVI on 11 Oct. the opened the two-week-long meeting of 246 Middle East bishops and other religious leaders.

    (Excerpt) Read more at adnkronos.com …

  217. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Doug,

    evidently a spokesperson for the W.H. came out a couple of days ago and said something to the effect of we can’t dwell on what has happened – referencing the mortgage fraud – we have to look forward…blah, blah, blah. Thus in effect saying we side with the bankers, and American citizens who are losing their property be damned. Read between the lines we will be bailing them out – AGAIN! I’m not sure this will go down quite so easy this time. As you mentioned the other day, folks aren’t stupid (albeit as stupid as they once were) with more folks are on to them and their games now. The other important issue to keep in mind is this same kind of mortgage fraud is rampant in commercial property sector, too. We “ain’t” seen nothin yet.

    Another thing Lindsey mentioned was the fact that deindustrialization is close to being complete here. Evidently Dell is finalizing the shutting down of one of their remaining plants here and moving it to China. Another mention was made about a Ford plant there and the billions that went with them. Again, all by design.

    In previous reporting from Lindsey, he said they’ll leave the Internet up as long as they can because they need it to get “their” message out. But it is in their plans. Somewhere in this final stage will be the collection of fire arms. That is anticipated to be done through the back door and through the U.N. I’ve read recent reports on this very thing being actively pursued. Looks like we’ll all be digging deep down to see exactly what we are made of, huh?!

  218. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    I did catch that tidbit Tarpley said – but just barely. I’m glad you caught it and posted it.

    I like this Colonel Schaffer, but, admittedly he said he is still on the side of the government. Makes me uneasy. He is kinda dancing around some things that Alex is asking and can’t say I agree with many things he’s saying. Have to remember, he’s still active in the service. I have some reservations about this guy for now. Having said that, I ordered his book just to see…

  219. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Waiting for Chapman to come on…but I sure could use a nap. ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz

  220. Posted October 22, 2010 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    JustMe, Thanks for sharing. I totally agree we won’t put up with anymore bailouts, let alone a UN takeover/move to disarm.

    Prarie,

    “The Koran gives Muslims the right to judge Christians and kill them with Jihad,”

    This is the philosophy of the Wahhibis out of Saudi Arabia…you know, the country we just sold $60 billion of arms to, and that had the majority of the 9/11 hijackers?

    BTW, next time you are on a plane with a friend named Jack, make sure you say hi to him where everyone around you can hear you.

    Hi Jack! (that was from an old Three’s Company episode) :-)

    ok…I’m done for the day…have a “Celebrating Korean Culture” silent auction for an orphanage foundation a friend of mine runs up in LA tonight.

    Enjoy your weekend everyone!

  221. Posted October 22, 2010 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    The “Irish Feinburg Solution” to Fraudclosure, by David Chu – http://www.rense.com/mp1/Fraudclosure%20The%20End%20Run%20Rense.pdf

    thoughts?

  222. Posted October 22, 2010 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    K Jack! Have a great weekend, Doug. For some interesting reading you may want to read more about the “Irish Feinburg Solution” I just posted.

  223. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    OK… I finally got the Jack joke.

  224. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    I didn’t…guess I’m a little slow today. Tell me.

  225. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    Hi Jack…on a plane… like yelling fire in a crowded room. That’s how I took it anyway.

  226. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    I am on my health nut quest again. What do you know about coconut oil?

  227. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    If accurate, this backs up everything Casper has been reporting.

    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/fraud/uk_australia_canada_government/news.php?q=1287768045

  228. venice
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/10/21/cyber-attack-strikes-freedomworks/

    Is the beginning of a cyberattack or is it just a reminder of whose in charge?

  229. Posted October 22, 2010 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    also attacked GCN and Beck, venice.

  230. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    I put coconut oil in my hot tea. I bought a book on it last year. Like many other of my “health” books, I put it aside to learn about Zionism and banking and The Fed and …. I remember reading it increases the benefits of CoQ10. I experimented with the CoQ10 gel cap and the oil in my tea. Very tolerable. I’ve had worse.

    If you want me to look something specific up for you let me know. I also used it along with some other oils in some hand creme I made for my hubby. He has his hands in the water all the time and is always looking for a good lotion/creme. I fixed that by making it myself with avocado oil, sesame oil, vitamin e/a oil and coconut oil.

    Now, having said that…a super antioxidant that I’ve mentioned before here you can take by the tablespoon full and survive it (lol) is the Barlean’s Olive Leaf Complex. It would be good for the boys, too. Super immune support.

  231. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    I am very hard on my hands and use Lansinoh. It comes in a purple tube and is a nipple cream for breast feeding mothers (this is how I discovered it). 100% pure lanolin. Use on Justin’s eczema, chapped lips, and cuts. I am always out now that the boys discovered it for breaking in their new baseball gloves. Looking at coconut oil for it’s help with thyroid and immune properties.

  232. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    First Favre and now Jeremiah Johnson, damn, do I have bad taste in men.

    http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/mvadum/2010/10/21/soros-funded-documentary-embraces-left-wing-terrorists-who-plotted-to-kill-republicans/

  233. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Well, I just ordered a gallon of coconut oil and the book about it’s benefits. I am still looking for things to help my sister. Testimonials reports it works for breakouts, immunity, and all sorts of stuff. We’ll see. Jen is breaking out badly from the steroids. If I like it, I’ll send her a gallon. Of course, she’ll fight me on trying it like always.

  234. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    High Speed Trading – trades held only for an average of 11 seconds and charged brokerage fees.

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/10/70-of-all-stock-market-trades-are-held.html

  235. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    HEADS UP – LINDSEY WILLIAMS making the rounds on another show on RBN right now – 4:07 Central

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/?page_id=3

    JOHN STADTMILLER

  236. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    If you are up for a free fall try this link, go specifically to the comments made by “Bio Sphere.”

    http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?265271-Queen-Elizabeth-II-abdication-rumours-grow-in-England

  237. Posted October 22, 2010 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    I read the one article posted in today’s Independent about the Queen having to live with a budget…LOL. Something tells me there is a whole lot more to this story, which is posted on the chalkboard, than we are being told. JM – my snark called the Prince the Gaia Prince…LOL. I just know Diana whispered that in my ear…LOL

  238. Posted October 22, 2010 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    Prairie – one step ahead of you. Already read and posted. whoooo hooooo! this is a great sign.

  239. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    Take the lead and I will follow.

  240. Posted October 22, 2010 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    so who is this Bio Sphere, Prairie? Think it might be our old pal?

  241. Posted October 22, 2010 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    damn girl, that is a lot of information…need to munch on it tonight. will put something together over the weekend. I want to see if Bio Sphere keeps posting. If so, I do believe you’ve lead me back to our original source.

  242. Posted October 22, 2010 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    and btw, have you read Casper’s latest intel about the Queen? If not, go to FourWinds and check it out. Very telling but not forthcoming.

  243. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    It is all coming full circle, BioSphere is siting all of the Hodges letters Story wrote about. I too need a chance to study it all more. I admit, I am starting to believe in ghosts. I don’t know who you think BioSphere is though. You lost me there.

  244. Posted October 22, 2010 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    Do you recall the post I wrote to you about Benjamin Fulford writing a post that an MI6 agent said Story was alive, and Fulford about this b/c he was being smeared as the one who instigated his “supposed” murder?

  245. Posted October 22, 2010 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    I wrote this to you a couple of weeks ago. Did you see this comment addressed to you on a thread here at The T-Room?

  246. Posted October 22, 2010 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    if not, go back a couple of threads or to benjaminfulford.net. the info was posted in a thread and I would think is still on his blog. if not, ugh! but BF outed the fact that Story faked his death b/c of his getting to close to the truth. this means, at least in my mind, Story is still with us. therefore, bio sphere may very well be Christopher trying to educate but not directly via his own blog. Just sayin.

  247. Posted October 22, 2010 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    interesting that ALL of his evidence goes back to WR. at least I find this fact interesting.

  248. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    Look at the dates of the post, it was before the “death.”

  249. Posted October 22, 2010 at 6:54 pm | Permalink

    aha.

  250. Posted October 22, 2010 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    I’m thoroughly puzzled and perplexed. Advise me. What are your thoughts?

  251. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    I need to study it more and will address your question then, right now I need to feed the troops, fresh perch on the grill tonight.

  252. Posted October 22, 2010 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    and I need to get out of the house and away from my dogs for a little while. let’s plan to check in with each other in the late morning tomorrow.

  253. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    The biosphere is the global sum of all ecosystems. It can also be called the zone of life on Earth. Hmm..

  254. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    Helen, please consider this for your chalk board…it is extemely important for all women to read.

    http://www.tbyil.com/breast-cancer-deception.htm

  255. Prairie
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    Add this about Tamoxifen.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/027123_cancer_Tamoxifen_brst_cancer.html

  256. JJ
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    “The Energy Non-Crisis” – the truth about the Alaskan oil and gas reserves.

    Indulge me here–if we have oil, why are we playing this game…why don’t we take our ball and go home??

  257. JJ
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    JustMePosted October 22, 2010 at 12:57 pm | Permalink
    SO,

    if the word is out – thinking Press TV article posted earlier – that the 25th amendment will be used AND the fact it said he wasn’t qualified in the first place…are we back to the question of who falls in line or is there even a legal legit, line to the heir apparent?

    I couldn’t agree with you more, Helen, about repealing or nullifying everything that has been passed/instituted since he stepped foot on the White House lawn.

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I would think mental incompetency would be even a more justifiable reason to do a big ‘undo’.

  258. JJ
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    Pastor Williams great point regarding above about businesses moving to cChina:

    400 to 1 insider trading during September(selling their own stock)….
    October insider trading has gone from 1,600 to 1….

    They are selling their own companies—big
    give-away that this country is in for complete melt-down soon..

  259. JustMe
    Posted October 22, 2010 at 11:42 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    Looks like I’m way behind in reading. I’ve been napping quite a bit this afternoon.

    Question for you. Am I dreaming or did you post an article about Monsanto buying Blackwater? Reason I’m asking is I just finished watching the documentary, “Food Inc.” (Links posted above.) I urge everyone reading here to watch it. It is critical to know how control over what we are eating or “allowed” to eat is slipping, or has it slipped away? Monsanto sends their goons out to spy on the farmers, as if they are on the same level as FBI agents. Monsanto ends up taking them to court for violating patent laws, whether founded or not. It ends up destroying these poor farmers.

    Get this, it was Clarence Thomas and the Clinton and Bush administrations that allowed for the laws to be changed to patent LIFE. This argument, as you can imagine, extends over into the area of exactly what is life and at what point is it life…let that one sink in for a minute.

    Monsanto has bankrupted all of these farmers and put fear in their minds/hearts breaking up close friendships of 50 years. The documentary goes far beyond just this aspect of food.

    Anyway, I was thinking this piece of info from you makes perfect sense that Monsanto would buy Blackwater. Many of the conditions of IMF loans – especially to third world countries – expressly state they must use ONLY Monsanto seeds. With this kind of worldwide ownership of our food, they need these goons. It’s reminiscent of mafia tactics. Food mafia. Never mind the fact the GMO seed, or cloned meat/poultry will alter our own DNA at some point.

    I realize there’s a lot that’s been posted here to view/read. As I said, I’m way behind myself. I’m just asking that you put this documentary on your list as a must see.

  260. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 12:10 am | Permalink

    Please check these out on Knights of Malta, according to this the Pope is running the Mossad and the Bishop of NY is running the millitary. I am finding these links in the body of Biosphere’s posts.

    http://www.whale.to/b/knights_q.html

  261. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 12:14 am | Permalink

    placing this here for safe keeping…
    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/us_constitution/news.php?q=c8ae09445cbfe10a2cb4fca13a53f225

  262. JustMe
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 12:36 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    I noticed the two articles you posted above concerning breast cancer. I’ve printed them out. Want hubby to read them too and comment. Unfortunately, licensed physicians are tightly controlled and protocols for treatment of diseases are handed to them. If they were to venture outside these mandates their careers are toast. It’s always good to find a physician that is educated in the importance of addressing “causation” and not only treating the symptoms is key. This means they have to self educate in terms of nutrition/diet, supplements, vaccines, etc. Remember, at least for physicians in the U.S., there is NO mandate in their very lengthy years of training for education in these key areas. Big surprise, hey?

    We don’t advocate support for these big foundations for obvious reasons. We personally contribute ONLY to local charities/foundations that take care of folk’s needs that include help with living expenses as well as meds. When the football teams paraded out on to the fields last weekend on the tube both my husband and I hit the ceiling. We don’t buy anything with a pink ribbon on it. Let that one sink in. lol

    Thanks for directing us to these two articles.

  263. JustMe
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 1:07 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    never mind. I found the post you made about Blackwater and Monsanto. It was as I suspected. However it said that Monsanto has merely secured their services, not actually having bought them, for all the reasons I guessed.

  264. JustMe
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 7:31 am | Permalink

    Helen,

    wondered if you’d had a chance to watch the Thomas Woods @ Nullify Now? I also noticed that Debra Medina was a speaker at that convention. There are a couple of addt’l videos on youtube featuring her. Plan to view them in a few. Woods is great. I can’t get enough of him. Shows the people how absurd government has gotten. Takes us back to what’s so.

  265. JustMe
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 7:32 am | Permalink

    I have storms rolling in – hoping my Internet connection holds up through it.

  266. JustMe
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 7:43 am | Permalink

    Here’s Debra Medina at Nullify Now Convention on 9/4/10

    She’s so great! I’m glad to see she is still in the forefront of things.

    Video 1 of 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkpNLEnl5es&feature=related

    Video 2 of 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAaQvhbKKQ4&NR=1

  267. JustMe
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 8:23 am | Permalink

    This is hilarious – Thomas Woods purchased this domain name and put up this spoof video mimicking the MSM interviewing process. “Interview With A Zombie”

    Check it out:

    http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/interview-with-a-zombie/

  268. JustMe
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 9:10 am | Permalink

    Helen, Oct 20, 2:11 Video of Griffin on the U.N.

    Finally had the opportunity to watch this vid you posted. I am a big fan of G. Edward Griffin. He does a good job in a short amount of time. After it is over, be sure to click on the Sheriff Mack video that comes up as a “suggestion.” It is excellent, too. Also visit his site http://www.sheriffmack.com. He’s another one working for our liberties and freedoms that we hear little about.

    Would be an interesting topic for a thread – these unsung heros who are very active and yet may go unnamed in our daily circles. Something to ponder…

  269. JustMe
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Very Interesting video of the next false flag to be bestowed upon us – the fake aliens. I think they should come down from their ivory towers and check out the “real” world around ‘em. They will be the laughing stock if they go through with this fakery.

    Are You Ready For The Fake Aliens?You Might Want To See This!

    “Here is an excellent compilation of news clips from 2010 showing how the government and mainstream media is really ramping-up the predictive-programming machine in preparation for the Project bluebeam / Fake Alien UFO landing event, that myself and others have been warning about for years. Please send this link on to anyone in your email boxes that is not aware of Bluebeam or the UFO events being prepared. Foreknowledge is important in exposing this. Your friends and family may call you crazy now, but they will remember what you told them, and will not be fooled by the government/media lies in the future. Peace.THIS VIDEO WAS POSTED ON SEPTEMPER 28TH UTUBE. Before NYC UFO’s/Balloons.”

    VIDEO:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGrwBe2vW6A&feature=player_embedded

    snipped from:
    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/224/878/

  270. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    JustMe,
    I passed it on to my family, ensuring I get tin foil for Christmas…oh, well. I am particularily concerned about the chemo drugs because, as you know, that is the treatment my sister is on. I will need to call her and “carefully” get the names of the drug she is currently taking. She is convinced of my insanity at this point. To give a clue how bad it is…she still supports Obama and believes I am just racist. For a year we didn’t speak, I know now that she is just a victim of the msm, and is paying dearly with her health. Sorry for rambling.

  271. venice
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/24/business/global/24g20.html?_r=1&hp

    These 2 paragraphs are perhaps the most important in this link:

    “The greatest surprise was the agreement on changes in the I.M.F.’s power structure, which most observers thought would remain unsettled until G-20 leaders meet in Seoul, South Korea, next month. The G-20 agreed to transfer more than 6 percent of voting power within the I.M.F. to “dynamic emerging-market and developing countries” by the fall of 2012. “The legitimacy of the I.M.F. is increasing,” Pranab Mukherjee, the Indian finance minister, said approvingly.

    China will become the fund’s third-largest shareholder, behind the United States and Japan but ahead of Germany, France and Britain.”

    Surprisisng to those who don’t want this, but not anybody else.

  272. Posted October 23, 2010 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    Prairie – the cancer article you posted is outstanding. It’s on the chalkboard.

    One of the primary reasons I avoided working for national nonprofits was b/c they are run like sweat shops and never seem to achieve their missions. One becomes quite cynical after watching how these organizations operate and treat their field staff. March of Dimes, ACS, American Heart Assoc., Luekemia Society and all of the other big medical nonprofits have local offices whose sole purpose is to raise money for headquarters.

    I’ve often wondered why we have breakthroughs in medicine but rarely for a cure. Thanks for sharing.

  273. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    Read the info by BioSphere again this morning. The suitcase is referred to a lot by Casper- seems it contains the evidence the Queen was funding Hitler. I assume this is why Casper calls her Marie Antoinette. The letters from Hodges and Story spoke of the “Settlement Funds,” I assume these are in the packages along with real documents. Bottom line with the Queen, she is a Jesuit posing as the head of the Church of England, a deceptive Illuminati move. These Knights of Malta members are the guardians of the Crown Temple. Amazing to read who all the members are and have been. The Pope, of course, under Treaty, has authority over all laws. Those are the laws of the Babylonian Talmud. This is why the Jewish get much of the blame, but it is stated that the Mossad is a branch of the Vatican (no chit). Also read that our millitary is under the Vatican’s Bishop in NY. Makes ya go hmmm… The income tax 1040 form is a contract with Britian, they get the dough along with now the Social Security funds- guess that is why no one knows where the money is. Actually, income tax is not a tax, it is repayment on the debt we still owe to the King who supported both sides of the Revolutionary war in order to bankrupt the Confederation. Worked. I believe it is Casper who maintains that these debts have been paid. Our millitary is chartered to collect for GB.

    In short, we are cows, our government is the caretaker, the Queen is the farmer, and the Pope stands alone. The bugger of what is happening appears to be that the Queen has forged documents of ownership as collateral on her land ownings. The Swiss seem to be calling her in on it and the people are waking to the fact she is Marie Antoinette. Who ever BioSphere and Casper are, they don’t have the same writing style as Story. They do connect the same dots. Perhaps Story got too close to this suitcase or forged documents. That is some of what I take from this. I still think the HI and Alaska Myths fit in with how the corporation used land for collateral, obtaining wealth to control the world, funneling it through off shore banks (HI, Haiti, Iraq) all the while implementing our millitary there to protect their interests (collection workers). Just my morning thoughts over coffee. What are yours?

  274. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    CDC, pregancy, and the HINI vaccine…
    http://www.tbyil.com/H1N1_Vaccine_Pregnancy_Dangers.htm

  275. JustMe
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    sorry to hear the differences between the two of you. No doubt you are light years ahead of her.

    Not knowing what she is on specifically, I can say based on what you have indicated her health issue is, most likely she is on immunosuppressant therapy. Tamoxifen is an oral medication given as adjuvant therapy and doesn’t fall into this category. (we can talk more offline about this if you want)

    Couple of things about the site the Tamoxifen article was on. I have found in the past this website – Natural News – isn’t completely accurate when it comes to their reporting medical claims. Actually I would say they’re more misleading…they don’t print ALL the facts and have on occasion misconstrued important details. I clicked through the links for the citations at the bottom and found Dr. Li’s original article. It is VERY important for those reading to see that Dr. Li emphasized not to discontinue taking this medication if currently on it for fear of a second breast cancer. I would strongly suggest bringing the article on this study into the physician’s office and discuss it. The physician can access the actual study and all of the variables/controls online.

    As with any “study” there are many variables that one must look at. I tell you what I would like to know more about is were there any controls on their diet and the water they were drinking. After having listened to Dr. Parker discuss his scientifically proven theory about the carcinogens in our drinking water and their direct link to breast and other cancers and diseases, and knowing what we now know about GMO food, I would love to know if this was even a part of the control in Dr. Li’s study.

    Here is the site with Dr. Li on it:
    http://www.fhcrc.org/about/ne/news/2009/08/25/tamoxifen.html

    BTW, this cancer research center in Washington is excellent. In fact, one of Chris’ early mentors whom he had during his fellowship is on the staff/board at Fred Hutchinson. His mentor’s speciality is breast cancer.

  276. JustMe
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    no money in cures. And in some cases the “cures” that were discovered could become obsolete as we the very structure of our DNA changes due to being inundated with more and more environmental toxins (think CoreExit9500), our bodies doing battle with the bastardization of our food supply (watch the documentary above on processed and GMO foods) and the toxins dumped in our drinking water.

  277. JustMe
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    HEADS UP – Webster Tarpley is on now if interested.

    His show is called World Crisis Radio.

    http://www.gcnlive.com/

  278. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    Guess I am on a cow theme…a court victory for hormone free milk.
    http://theintelhub.com/2010/10/22/a-major-legal-victory-in-the-fight-for-hormone-free-milk/

  279. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Does anything surprise you any more? How government manufactured AIDS virsus. A Rockefeller as population czar…now that’s scary.
    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/history/american/news.php?q=1287858430

  280. JustMe
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    you are on a roll today, with your finds. I saw a documentary 2 years ago about the gov’t's involvement in AIDS. It was along the same time as I saw the 9/11 truth “stuff.” NOTHING surprises me any longer.

    I have to get a meatloaf in the oven. Will look at the link afterwards. I think youtube video may still have the videos up. Not sure. Allegedly it was intentionally targeting the populations in NYC and San Fran for obvious reasons as to better “spreadability.” You can read between the lines on this one.

    Do you remember the book I was reading – “Dr. Mary’s Monkey?” It is nonfiction and discusses how Dr. Mary and others were making cancer viruses in the kitchen of this apartment in New Orleans. Oswald was going to infect Castro with them. This was during the Bay of Pigs era. I was stunned at what I was reading and what was going on covertly in that city with this. The author, whose father was a physician and “friends” with Dr. Mary wrote about the predicted rise in certain cancers years later. He was spot on. It’s a great read – a real page turner.

  281. venice
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article23706.html

    A very good interview about the fundamentals underlying economic depression, currency wars, and the value of the dollar in relation to gold.

    If there is any confusion about how all of this is connected, please read.

  282. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    I don’t doubt your info, but adding to it, this artlicle points to the black population as the target for AIDS virus.

  283. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    One more and then I have to clean up and make supper too… this is a great read on the selling off of America, the reasoning, and the new wikileaks document all rolled into one.

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=185663

  284. JustMe
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    That’s correct. If and that’s a big IF I remember correctly they were the target for the initial experimental group and it’s intended use was population reduction. What I was talking about was the issue of “spreadability” on this continent – another leg of the experiment. That’s why I say you have to read between the lines.

  285. JustMe
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    I responded to your email offline.

  286. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    The darkness in beyond my comprehension. My heard and mind could not absorb and survive what has come to be revealed without all of you here. Yes, it’s been a long day.

  287. Posted October 23, 2010 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

    Well, Prairie, there is definitely more. I’ve been re reading Bio Sphere’s comments. Need to do a bit more reading and follow his links b/c he is someone who is following the packets. I’ll post some thoughts shortly.

  288. Posted October 23, 2010 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    venice, that is an outstanding interview. I liked what Bob was saying about about the various mining companies to invest in. That is very helpful information when one has so much money tied up in the markets and can switch said dollars to these firms. Very helpful and constructive advice. Thanks for sharing.

  289. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    Yes, there is a ton there. Overwhelming.

  290. Posted October 23, 2010 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    Have you clicked on his forum link? Here’s an update he posted yesterday –

    UK’s emergency spending cuts forced by Queen’s personal bankruptcy
    UK Government’s October 2010 emergency austerity spending review forced by Queen Elizabeth II’s personal bankruptcy. Royal abdication looms.

    The unexpectedly deep public spending cuts announced by the UK’s Conservative/Liberal Democrat coalition government on Wednesday 20th October 2010 were much more than required by the international bond markets in order to retain the UK’s sovereign credit ratings.

    Behind the scenes is a royal bankruptcy and a royal abdication crisis struggling to remain hidden. What is being said publicly is that the British monarchy has been secured in a historic deal with the UK Government which will give the Royal House of Windsor a share of the £210 million profits from government estates relinquished by King George III in the early nineteenth century.

    However, behind closed doors, the Queen has been forced to give up the ultimate right to manage Buckingham Palace’s financial affairs in a secret deal signed by Palace aides and the Government. Swiss Banks are said to be foreclosing on the Queen’s private estate. The City of London Crown Temple and the Vatican are complicit, and élite forged documents are understood to be involved.

    More here (23.09.10), here (23.09.10), here (23.09.10), here (24.09.10), here (24.09.10), here (24.09.10), here (24.09.10), here (21.10.10), here (10.10.10) and here (10.10.10). And the full text of the UK government’s 2010 spending review can be found here (pdf file – 106 pages).

    Alcuin Bramerton comment: The Independent newspaper (London), which has been leading the mainstream royal disclosure narratives in the UK, changed ownership in March 2010. The paper is now the business possession of the Russian oligarch Alexander Yevgenievich Lebedev (51). Unlike all other UK mainstream media owners/controllers, Lebedev has no organic connection with the British establishment or with British intelligence.

    Source: Alcuin and Flutterby alternative news digest here (23.10.10).

  291. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    Won’t load for me, but apparently on the Blaze their is a piece on a congressman who has just launched perjury and impeachment charges on Justice Roberts. I am off to see if Drudge has it.

  292. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    Vatican asks for end of Israeli occupation!!!! Says there is no longer a chosen people!!!!!

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=185668

  293. venice
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    Well Helen,

    I’m so glad you found it useful. The essence of the article appears to have been lost on my husband, a man who I would say is very intelligent. I regret to say, that on this front, we are miles apart. Some just can’t fathom that the world is not always a kind place. Sad, very sad.

  294. venice
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    Wow Prairie,

    I guess this is a continuation of a NWO.

  295. Posted October 23, 2010 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    venice, welcome to The T-Room Smart Wives Club. LOL. Our men would be lost without us and yes, we might be lost without them but I’m thinking maybe not so much…

    Prairie – I’m still reading.

  296. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    How does what the Vatican just did fit in? Why ask the UN, the Vatican runs the Mossad, right?

  297. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Furthermore, is this related to Roberts who we know is a puppet for the Vatican. This is all nuts…I won’t sleep at all tonight.

  298. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    Actually, I think Health care is headed to the Supremem Court so they are stacking it with another liberal. Not that any of them their are nothing more than corporation owned monkies.

  299. Posted October 23, 2010 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    well, we might as well add this little ditty – got it from one of Bio Sphere’s links –

    There is no mystery behind the current abomination of Babylon for those who discern His Truth:

    And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. -Revelation 17:5

    God has reserved His judgment for the great idolatress, Rome, the chief seat of all idolatry, that rules over many nations with whom the kings have committed to the worship of her idols (see Revelation 17:1-4). The Pope and His purported Church; sitting on the Temple throne at the Vatican; ruling the nations of the earth through the Crown Temple of ungodly deities are the Rule and Order of Babylon; the Crown of godlessness and the Code of commerce.

    One may call the Rule of the world today by many names: The New World Order (a Bush family favourite), the Third Way (spoken by Tony Blair and Bill Clinton), the Illuminati, Triad, Triangle, Trinity, Masonry, the United Nations, the EU, the US, or many dozens of other names. However, they all point to one origin and one beginning. We have traced this in history to the Crown Temple, the Temple Church circa 1200. Because the Pope created the Order of the Temple Knights (the Grand Wizards of deception) and established their mighty Temple Church in the sovereign City of London, it is the Pope and his Roman Capitols who control the world.

    And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication” -Revelation 17:4

    This verse appears to be an accurate description of the Pope and His Bishops for the past 1,700 years. The idolatries of commerce in the world: all the gold and silver; the iron and soft metals; the money and coins and riches of the world: All of these are under the control of the Crown Temple; the Roman King and his false Church; the throne of Babylon; attended to by his Templar Knights, the Wizards of abomination and idolatry.

    The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman [mother of harlots] sitteth – Revelation 17:9

    The only mention of “seven mountains” within our present-day Bible is at Revelation 17:9, so it’s no wonder this has been a mystery to the current Body of Christ. The 1611 King James (who was a Crown Templar) Bible is not the entire canon of the early church (“church” in Latin ecclesia; in Greek ekklesia). This in itself is no mystery as history records the existence and destruction of these early church writings; just as history has now proven their genuine authenticity with the appearance of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the coptic library at Nag Hagmadi in Egypt, among many other recent Greek language discoveries within the past 100 years.

    The current Holy Bible quotes the Book of Enoch numerous times:

    By faith Enoch was taken away so that he did not see death, “and was not found, because God had taken him”; for before he was taken he had this testimony, that he pleased God. – Hebrews 11:5

    Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” – Jude 1:14-15

    The Book of Enoch was considered scripture by most early Christians. The earliest literature of the so-called “Church Fathers” is filled with references to this mysterious book. The second century Epistle of Barnabus makes much use of the Book of Enoch. Second and Third Century “Church Fathers,” such as Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Origin and Clement of Alexandria, all make use of the Book of Enoch. Book of Enoch “Holy Scripture”. The Ethiopic Church included the Book of Enoch to its official canon. It was widely known and read the first three centuries after Christ. However, this and many other books became discredited after the Roman Council of Laodicea. Being under ban of the Roman Papal authorities, afterwards they gradually passed out of circulation.

    At about the time of the Protestant Reformation, there was a renewed interest in the Book of Enoch, which had long since been lost to the modern world. By the late 1400′s, rumors began to spread that a copy of the long lost Book of Enoch might still exist. During this time, many books arose claiming to be the lost book but were later found to be forgeries.

    The return of the Book of Enoch to the modern western world is credited to the famous explorer James Bruce, who in 1773 returned from six years in Abyssinia with three Ethiopic copies of the lost book. In 1821, Richard Laurence published the first English translation. The now famous R.H. Charles edition was first published by Oxford Press in 1912. In the following years, several portions of the Greek text also surfaced. Then, with the discovery of cave number four of the Dead Sea Scrolls, seven fragmentary copies of the Aramaic text were discovered.

    Within the Book of Enoch is revealed one of the mysteries of Babylon concerning the seven mountains she sits upon (underlining has been added):

    [CHAPTER 52] 2 There mine eyes saw all the secret things of heaven that shall be; a mountain of iron, a mountain of copper, a mountain of silver, a mountain of gold, a mountain of soft metal, and a mountain of lead.

    6 These [6] mountains which thine eyes have seen: The mountain of iron, the mountain of copper, the mountain of silver, the mountain of gold, the mountain of soft metal, and the mountain of lead. All these shall be in the presence of the Elect One as wax: Before the fire, like the water which streams down from above upon those mountains, and they shall become powerless before his feet. 7 It shall come to pass in those days that none shall be saved, either by gold or by silver, and none be able to escape. 8 There shall be no iron for war, nor shall one clothe oneself with a breastplate. Bronze shall be of no service, tin shall be of no service and shall not be esteemed, and lead shall not be desired. 9 All these things shall be denied and destroyed from the surface of the earth when the Elect One shall appear before the face of the Lord of Spirits.’

    [CHAPTER 24] 3 The seventh mountain was in the midst of these, and it excelled them in height, resembling the seat of a throne; and fragrant trees encircled the throne.

    [CHAPTER 25] 3 And he answered saying: ‘This high mountain which thou hast seen, whose summit is like the throne of God, is His throne, where the Holy Great One, the Lord of Glory, the Eternal King, will sit, when He shall come down to visit the earth with goodness. 4 As for this fragrant tree, no mortal is permitted to touch it until the great judgement when He shall take vengeance on all and bring (everything) to its consummation for ever. 5 It shall then be given to the righteous and Holy. Its fruit shall be for food to the elect: It shall be transplanted to the Holy place, to the temple of the Lord, the Eternal King. 6 Then shall they rejoice with joy and be glad, and into the Holy place shall they enter; its fragrance shall be in their bones and they shall live a long life on earth, such as thy fathers lived: In their days shall no sorrow, or plague, or torment, or calamity touch them.’

    The present wealth and power of all the world’s gold, silver, tin, bronze, pearls, diamonds, gemstones, iron, and copper belonging the Babylon whore, and held in the treasuries of her Crown Templar banks and deep stony vaults, will not be able to save them at the time of the Lord’s judgment.

    But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. – Matthew 23:13

  300. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 10:59 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    That is quite a little ditty. Wow.

  301. Posted October 23, 2010 at 11:11 pm | Permalink

    Here’s the link – http://www.israelect.com/ChildrenOfYahweh/Other%2520Reading/crown_temple.htm and it discusses the Crown Temple, the City of London, the Vatican, the Bar Association and a great deal more. Definitely worth the read if you’re unable to sleep tonight. Also, at the top of the page there are lots of tabs to click for more information on other topics.

  302. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    I’m on it.

  303. Prairie
    Posted October 23, 2010 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    What a site Helen.

  304. Posted October 23, 2010 at 11:53 pm | Permalink

    I know. I haven’t been able to stop reading. It’s a treasure trove full of information and it’s sourced. Geez luiz. Bio Sphere is a studied individual.

  305. Posted October 24, 2010 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    Happy reading, Prairie. Hitting the sack. Goodnight.

  306. Prairie
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    Night, Helen.

  307. JustMe
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 7:40 am | Permalink

    Prairie @5:22

    That was an interesting read for sure. I have always enjoyed Nancy Levant’s articles. Couple of things to add to this dizzying list of questions the author poses. Heard this yesterday…the Sheriff Mack video I mentioned above, said the Federal Gov’t *claims* they own a large percentage of the western states (remember the land grab map?) however, he said, “they don’t hold the title.” So, he made the distinction that the Federal Gov’t may MANAGE most of the western states – they don’t own them. So, considering the questions posed in the article you linked to about who owns what – my brain went to the recent ForeclosureGate drama. Meanwhile, the real true owner of the infrastructure – with the exception of perhaps the Interstate Highways and the railroad – has got to be THE PEOPLE of each state who hold the official “title” to their respective state.

    This story below – as told by Sheriff Mack, my new hero – is what got the wheels in my mind turning. Then I read your article and. What are your thoughts?

    “While Richard Mack was sheriff of Graham County, Arizona, a bridge washed out. Parents had to drive twenty six miles to get their kids to school half a mile across the river. But the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers wouldn’t fix it. First they had to do an “environmental impact study,” to replace a bridge already there. They were in no hurry. The study would take a mere ten years.

    The people’s suffering reached the board of supervisors. The board voted to dredge the river and fix the bridge. The feds warned that they would be fined $50,000 per day if they tried. The supervisors hesitated. Sheriff Mack promised them and the workers protection and pledged to call out a posse for the purpose if necessary. They built the bridge and the Corps of Engineers faded. The board never paid a dime.”

    More here about the Sheriff having more power than the president:
    http://www.newswithviews.com/Stang/alan192.htm

  308. JustMe
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 7:44 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    have to admit that you and Helen have completely lost me with Bio Sphere and the Vatican stuff. Does it have anything to do with information you two followed with Story? I’m trying to understand, but…brain has nothing to link it to.

  309. JustMe
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 7:50 am | Permalink

    Heard this one, too, while preparing dinner last night. It’s a very simple argument for those who are wee wee’d up about sharia law taking over here in the U.S. Dr. Tillawi – in his usual gracious manner – put to bed the absurdity of *this* carrot of fear being dangled in front of us by the fearmongers.

    For this to happen, we would have to have Muslim majority in BOTH the House and Senate. Uhhhhh…I don’t see that happening anytime soon – if ever – do you? Nah, didn’t think so.

  310. venice
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 7:52 am | Permalink

    http://imarketnews.com/node/21263

    “The cooperation which marked the world’s response to the global financial crisis has all but evaporated in favor of a very public row among the world’s major economies which sounds much like the one that the U.S. and China have been having for all these years.

    And the G20 talks which just ended here leave the impression that row is set to continue, perhaps for some time.”

  311. Posted October 24, 2010 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    JM @ 7:44 – Story wrote a weekly synopsis about the Dollar Refunding Programme that was supported by the G8. This programme was intended to prop up the dollar so as to keep the dollar stable. Under Dubya the funds provided to a private entity – Hodges and Company – to manage the programme, which was one of the stipulations made by the G8, have been shuffled around from Bank to Bank all the while the Sr Cabal and the Queen have been trying to get their hands on the money for their own purposes none of which includes the original intent of the G8 and the Dollar Refunding progamme.

    These dollars would serve the US and her people but, of course, the greedy PTB want none of that. The Casper Intel group has been working to move these dollars to the responsible parties, i.e. Clifton Hodges, for several years now. It’s in the trillions and it’s not new money.

    We lost the scent of the unfolding drama when Story left the scene. Bio Sphere, a poster, showed up this week writing about the Queen’s financial pickle, she apparently believes she deserves more money to manage the state’s Palaces and attempted to apply for a grant via the state programs intended for the poor. This claim made by the Queen appeared in the papers and an uproar ensued. Note – The Independent newspaper is now owned by a Russian oligarch who could care less about the Queen and all of her trappings, therefore, his editorial staff is free to actually report the truth rather than the propaganda from the other papers.

    Fast forward to the many articles both Prairie and I have posted in the last 48 hours about the Queen and the Vatican and you’ll be able to understand why we have found Bio Sphere a godsend b/c he posts from the British perspective of what is happening across the pond that has a direct impact on the US and the dollar refunding programme aka prosperity packages.

    I hope this helps. Prairie, what am I missing?

  312. JustMe
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    NO COINCIDENCE – ASSANGE AND GADAHN’S NEW “LEAKS” No coincidence – Assange and Gadahn’s new “leaks”
    Saturday, October 23, 2010

    “In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens you can bet it was planned that way”
    Alleged quote by FDR. 

    Interesting & viable perspective on the timing of the long awaited Assange Iraq War document dump and the release of the “canned” Gadahn video threatening Muslim jihad. Gadahn, former radical Zionist and alleged convert to Islam is Adam Pearlman, a known CIA asset and Mossad agent. He is the grandson of Dr. Carl Pearlman, Orange County Urologist, who sat on the board of the ADL.

    Those of us on this blog have come to expect, and now watch for these type of carefully coordinated, and oft dramatic, psyop efforts that captivate minds in this digital world. What’s that quote – “all the world’s a stage…” On cue, enter – stage right – the United Nations asking the U.S. administration to probe the involvement of American forces’ in human rights abuses and war crimes in Iraq. Great. Another useless request by the U.N. for a probe into human rights abuses. I say useless because they continue to ignore the now infamous Goldstone Report. It was prepared by Justice Richard Goldstone in 2009, at the request of the U.N. on violations of international human rights abuses & war crimes in Gaza by Israel. I digress.

    Looks like this one is REALLY useless for the reason stated in this article – they’re asking the fox to guard the hen house.

    “The UN has asked the US administration to probe the involvement of American forces’ in human rights abuses, summary executions and war crimes in following the “largest classified military leak” detailing accounts of torture and killing of over 66,000 civilians.

    Asking the fox to investigate the chicken house certainly won’t result in any military or government heads rolling but for those who think Wikileaks is working for the CIA or the Mossad, what is planned is that the Wikileaks Propaganda Helps Build A Case for Attacking Iran. With reports like “how Iran devised new suicide vest for al-Qaeda to use in Iraq,” war crimes by the U.S. and/or Israel against Iran can be looked at as justifiable.”

    “The timing of the release of both the Wikileaks and SITE ‘reports’ is not coincidental but to be expected. In the intelligence services psyops against  humanity, game planning is essential. Most may not see it but the game is transparent.”…

    I have another theory that I’m toying with. I’m not so sure this is to justify going in to Iran as much as it may be to impeach “O,” changing their war strategy to justify cutting their losses and pulling out of Afghanistan with the intention of continuing to destabilize Pakistan. We all saw the recent headlines of HellCAT pimping for the U.S. offering billions to Pakistan. Why? The ever so important Port of Gwadar is in Pakistan sitting right on the border of Iran. This has everything to do with a pipeline route going up into China through the Himalayas. The winds of change are coming, that’s for sure.

    http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/

  313. JustMe
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    HEADS UP – Dr. Winn Parker is on now

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/?page_id=3

  314. venice
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    http://www.arabianmoney.net/gold-silver/2010/10/20/how-will-gold-and-silver-react-to-a-second-global-financial-crisis

    Helen, since you seem interested in precious metal stocks, this one’s for you.

  315. venice
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    Helen,

    Check your spam filter.

  316. Posted October 24, 2010 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-23/strauss-kahn-says-officials-at-g-20-agreed-on-biggest-reform-ever-of-imf.html

  317. Posted October 24, 2010 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    definitely interested, venice. will read and thank you for the link. feel free to post any and all. the mind is wide open and b/c of you, we have a little peace of mind. :-)

  318. Prairie
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    We are not really broke and there is no need for taxes….
    http://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2010/10/is-government-at-all-levels-really.html

  319. Prairie
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    If you want a good laugh, watch this opening of Saturday Night live from last night. O campaigning for Dingy Harry….

    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/barack-obama-&-harry-reid-opening/1255799

  320. Prairie
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/barack-obama-&-harry-reid-opening/1255799

  321. JustMe
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    OMG, my head is spinning from listening to Dr. Parker. He was dropping some bombshells on his show today for sure. Ugh. And, as usual it will take sometime to wrap my head around this.

    Helen, did you catch any of his show? Any thoughts on what he said?

  322. Prairie
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    If there is a podcast please post it. If not, simple bullet points would be appreciated.

    Still trying to post this skit from SNL. It was too funny…too real.

    http://www.nbc.com/?vty=fromWidget_Video&dst=nbc|widget|NBC Video&__source=nbc|widget|NBC Video

  323. Posted October 24, 2010 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Prairie – which skit?

  324. Posted October 24, 2010 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    I caught some of it. He’s so technical that it’s hard for my brain to switch gears to the science. Like Prairie asked, if you could provide links to his podcast that would be mighty helpful. I did catch the frakking and the Aquafir info but not in the detail that I would like.

  325. Posted October 24, 2010 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    got it now, Prairie. hold on.

  326. Posted October 24, 2010 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    let’s see if this works!

  327. Prairie
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Helen. Very telling how close to home their jokes are hitting for the dems and obama, no? Although I realize o is just the magot on a big pile of doo, it is still fun to watch the msm “stepping in it.”

  328. Posted October 24, 2010 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    I agree. Love the question about the Birth Certificate; especially since Berg held his rally yesterday at the Capitol. I don’t trust that man one bit, but he’s got the ear of some pretty powerful people so who knows if he will be victorious in the end. Arresting Obama and all of his enablers is the only means of satisfaction. And that includes both R’s and D’s even at the state level!

  329. JustMe
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Helen, Prairie

    as you have now experienced, it isn’t that easy to bullet what he says. Ugh! I am always so frustrated after I listen to him, knowing he exposes so much you won’t hear anywhere else, and yet I struggle to understand it all because of the legal, science and technical aspects involved.

    I can’t post a link to the archives. He is on RBN, so you have to log in and access the archives through the member area. You are welcome to use my log in info.

    I’ll try to filter through some of the info the next few days and post what I can.

  330. JustMe
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Here’s one of the things that Dr. Parker talked about. Very interesting, indeed. He said he’d been told not to talk about it. Have no idea why, I found info about it on the Internet. Unless, they didn’t want the word to get out.

    Tres Amigas – a massive project with a hub located in Clovis, New Mexico. Dr. Parker says they’ll be using super conducting cables to connect the three areas similar to the ones used for HAARP in Alaska.

    Here’s a link to one of many articles I found on a quick Internet search. Says it’s a renewable energy game changer. Wondering who is gonna be paying for this game changer?
    http://www.eenews.net/public/climatewire/2009/12/23/1

    Helen, looks like this may be providing the infrastructure for the wind energy farms around me that we were talking about the other day.

  331. JustMe
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    Another link on Tres Amigas – this is a massive proposed project. No wonder ol’ Bill Richardson left quietly. He was more of an asset to “O” back in his native state than being on The Hill.

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/2009-10-13-new-mexico-electric-grids_N.htm?csp=34

  332. venice
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2010/10/24/g-20-a-green-light-to-beat-down-the-buck/?mod=rss_WSJBlog&mod=marketbeat

    After the G20 meeting this w/e expect continued decline in the US dollar, and correspondingly increase in the price of gold and silver.

    Helen, I am happy that this eases your concerns, because it should. What many don’tknow, is that only a small percentage of the population, perhaps 10%, understand the significance of holding physical gold (and silver).

    This is such a critical issue, because very soon those who could afford to buy it, won’t be able to,and they stand to lose a great deal of their lives’ earnings.

    PHYSICAL GOLD IS MONEY. IT WILL BE THE ONLY MONEY WORTH ANYTHING. YOUR HOUSE, YOUR BONDS, YOUR PENSIONS, ANY OTHER REAL ESTATE, WILL BE DEVALUED SO SIGNIFICANTLY THAT YOU’LL WONDER WHY YOU EVER WORKED, SAVED OR INVESTED IN MUCH OF ANYTHING ELSE.

    GET IT NOW OR YOU’LL BE BATTLING THE STAMPEDES.

  333. venice
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/407380-jeff-nielson/92499-preventing-your-government-from-stealing-your-gold

    In case you’re concerned about the government confiscating your gold.

  334. JustMe
    Posted October 24, 2010 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    We will be eating China’s dust – Parker talked about the recent deals China signed for natural gas drilling here in the U.S., which I will post more on later (finishing up my research), and now this.

    http://www.presstv.com/detail/148093.html

  335. Posted October 24, 2010 at 7:09 pm | Permalink

    ***NEW POST – The Corbett Report and Episode 156 of ForeclosureGate w/Celente and Chapman***

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