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Peace be with you and your’s today and always

Posted by helen

Open thread. What’s on your mind today?

228 Comments

  1. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    ISRAEL ALLOWS GOODS FOR TRADING INTO GAZA – FIRST TIME IN THREE YEARS. (goods have been sitting in a warehouse since 2007 and half of it is ruined)

    For first time in three years privately imported clothes, shoes enter Strip, but merchants say goods have been damaged by being held at port since 2007 and that they need more to replenish stocks

    Gaza’s merchants, who imported the goods privately, said Sunday’s shipment was not enough to replenish their stocks and demanded Israel release more goods held at its ports since 2007.

    “Some of it even smells bad. I can say half of the merchandise is still good, but the other half is damaged. I fear I may not be able to recoup my outlay,” importer Ziad Barbakh told Reuters while frantically inspecting his clothes shipment.

    Merchants said they had to pay 2000 shekels (about $540) per month for storing their merchandise at the Israeli port of Ashdod for the last three years.

    “Now they (Hamas) want to take tax as well,” said shoe trader Eyad El-Ejla.

    snipped from:
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3871646,00.html

  2. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    I’m finally listening to Sam Kennedy’s podcasts.

    I PRAY this is so. He said about a year ago the military approached him to come up with a plan to take our country back. I had not heard that from anyone that has written about this movement. This to me is key.

  3. Posted April 4, 2010 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    He’s on RBN’s Take No Prisoner’s radioshow tonight at 8 pm. I’m like you, I pray it’s true too. It would be quite shocking if true. That’s for sure.

  4. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    did you know the military initiated this? I never heard that until now.

  5. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    SPECIAL REPORT FROM WAYNE MADSEN – Wayne Madsen is in Turkey this week and here is his special report from there. Very, very interesting.

    April 5-6, 2010 — SPECIAL WMR REPORT FROM ISTANBUL, TURKEY — U.S. links to Turkish Ergenekon network revealed

    Informed sources in Istanbul have told WMR that documents seized in the investigation of the Turkish “Deep State{ network, also known as Ergenekon, describe links between top Turkish military officers and top figures in the Bush administration, including Vice President Dick Cheney. The documents also show that there is an American counterpart to Turkey’s “Deep State.” Turkish sources report that former FBI Turkish and Azeri translator Sibel Edmonds stumbled upon documents revealing both the Turkish and American “deep states” but was prevented on reporting on their activities by a Turkish Ergenekon agent assigned to the FBI translation office in Washington. Edmonds was fired by the FBI after she complained that no action was being taken on wiretaps that showed the criminal activities of both nations’ “deep states.”

    Revelations expose U.S. links to Ergenekon

    WMR has also learned of strong links between the Kemalist (supporters of Turkish secular state founder Kemal Ataturk) Ergenekon players and major figures of the Israeli Likud Party.

    The Kemalist-Likud alliance explains to a great degree the repeated presence at the U.S. embassy in Ankara of U.S. diplomatic officials who are also close to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).

    Chief among the U.S. diplomats who have served the interests of Ergenekon and AIPAC is Marc Grossman, the U.S. ambassador to Ankara from 1994 to 1997 and the GW Bush administration’s Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs who was one of the first Bush officials to leak to Turkish intelligence agents the fact that CIA nuclear counterproliferation covert agent Valerie Plame Wilson’s Brewster Jennings & Associates energy consulting company was a CIA brass plate operation.

    WMR has also learned that Grossman and his chief military aide in Ankara Major Douglas Dickerson were asked to leave Turkey after it was learned that they were working with Ergenekon Turkish military and intelligence agents to overthrow the Azerbaijan government of President Haydar Aliyev, who was considered too pro-Russian. Dickerson’s wife, Melek Can Dickerson, was Edmonds’s co-worker at the FBI’s translation shop who was marking intercepted Ergenekon-related conversations as “unimportant.” WMR has learned from Turkish sources that Melek Can Dickerson was placed in the FBI’s unit top ensure tba that Grossman’s and her her husband’s roles in working with Ergenekon remained secret.

    Furthermore, Grossman and Dickerson, while at the US embassy in Ankara, were linked to the Susurluk scandal, an operation between Turkish military officers and criminal syndicates that exposed the linkage between the Turkish military and several “false flag” assassinations and terrorist bombings that were blamed on the Kurdish Worker’s Party (PKK). The Susurluk scandal was exposed on November 3, 1996, when a Mercedes 600 SEL crashed in Susurluk in Balikesir province. In the trunk was discovered weapons, drugs, cash, listening devices, and Turkish diplomatic passports. The same network involved in the Susurluk incident were, according to our sources, working with Grossman and Dickerson at the U.S. embassy in Ankara to depose Aliyev in Baku and install Ebulfeyz Elchibey in his place. At the same time, Richard Armitage, who also figured in the outing of Valerie Plame, was the head of the U.S.-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce, which had among its advisers Richard Perle. Dickersion eventually began working for Perle’s colleague Douglas Feith at the Pentagon, according to our sources.

    Another member of the U.S. AIPAC faction tied to the Kemalists in Turkey was Eric Edelman, the U.S. ambassador in Ankara between 2003 and 2005. His major task was to ensure that U.S. and Israeli links to Ergenekon were not exposed. Edelman served as Vice President Dick Cheney’s Principal Deputy Assistant to the Vice President for National Security Affairs from February 2001 to July 2003. WMR has also learned from Turkish sources that the principal players in the Susurluk scandal, including those planning to overthrow Aliyev in Azerbaijan, were supported by Cheney while he was the chief of Halliburton, a major player in Azerbaijan’s oil industry and a backer of Armitage’s U.S.-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce. Azerbaijan was the origination point for the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline and Halliburton was a key contractor.

    The revelations that Cheney was involved in a plot by Turkish military officers and criminal syndicates to carry out false flag terrorist attacks and assassinations of Turkish citizens would presage Cheney’s similar operations while he was Vice President, including the most infamous false flag attack of all time: 9/11.

    Next: How the Israel Lobby is spreading fear and lies in the United States about the Turkish AKP government.

  6. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    To confirm, I have heard it on each of the two talkshoe videos that RAP is backed by the military. I have also heard them say this will go forward with or without the military backing. Personally, I don’t see how they could do it without.

  7. Posted April 4, 2010 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    JM, yes, I’d heard that but until it is confirmed by the military, I’m putting in “we’ll see” category.

  8. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    right. I did hear him say that same thing. Had I known the military initiated this when folks were first posting the info I would have had a different take/mindset on it than I did.

    Kennedy seems to think it’s so simple it will work with or without. Now, I will say one thing that does concern me is the last thing he said on the 2nd podcast I just finished. He said this isn’t going back to the original Constitution. It is going back to the creator. What do you make of that statement?

  9. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    sure, that’s understandable. Do you know if he’s supposed to reveal phase 2 this evening? Or are they still in phase 1.

  10. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    I understand that it restores the states to “common law” that operated before they consented to the formation of the federal government under the constitution. I am listening to more of the videos now.

  11. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    Okay, thanks. Where are the videos. On youtube?

  12. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    Never mind, I found them on youtube.

  13. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    I started with #1- but this was just a repeat intoduction. I am listening to #2 now- yes- boys are at the diamonds.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG6Ekq_h2M8&feature=related

  14. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    I put this in my favorites from CW last night. The South posted it.

    http://www.spiritualeconomicsnow.net/solutions/How_I_08.pdf

  15. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    ISRAELI JETS ATTACK GAZA AGAIN!

    As we all enjoy our Easter keep these people in Gaza in your prayers.

    Israeli fighter jets have attacked central and eastern Gaza Strip following Tel Aviv’s threats of a fresh round of strikes on the blockaded sliver.

    The Sunday raids targeted al-Maghazi near the Gaza City and al-Qarara in the town of Khan Younis.

    The locals reported an increase in Israeli military presence in the coastal sliver over the past two weeks, the Palestinian Ma’an news agency reported.

    Israel’s Deputy Prime Minister Silvan Shalom said Friday that a military operation was brewing in response to alleged rocket attacks from Gaza.

    The enclave is yet to recover from the aftermath of Israel’s December 2008-January 2009 artillery, aerial and naval bombardments which left more than 1,400 Gazans dead and inflicted a damage of more than USD 1.6 billion on its economy.

    http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=122434&sectionid=351020202

  16. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    “Destiny they have been charged with by high ranking military and powers around the world to divert WWIII.” Quote from audio 3. “High ranking military will recognize sovereign citizens as lawful authority over illegitamate banking cartel.”

  17. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    This video series sounds like what I just finished listening to.

    I looked this up – he mentions it – 28usc 3002. This is when the US became a corporation.

    Here is one link – there are many.

    http://www.futureamericanhistory.net/guideline.htm

  18. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    yes, that’s what I heard that grabbed my attention.

  19. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    While we are in the middle of the RAP and anxious for tonights new- rest assured we will not forget to pray for the people of Gaza.

  20. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    Lakin says no to brain scan.
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=135781

  21. Posted April 4, 2010 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

    Folks, I am bringing this announcement regarding tonight’s call w/Sam Kennedy, GOFR posted by JS over at CWs. It is a note from Sam and gives details regarding tonight’s call. I’ll be tuning and urge you and family to do the same. I’m slowly gaining confidence is the real deal. MJ had an article trying to ridicule the movement on 4/2. Kinda funny b/c the video the reporter linked to was one of the key members and the guy knew his shit. Until then, we’re doing a small cookout w/friends and neighbors. I’ll be tuning in and will look forward to monitoring your comments here in The T-Room to learn your reaction and thoughts. Until then, eat, drink and be merry. helen

    Jacqlyn Smith // April 4, 2010 at 10:48 am

    Please listen tonight is you have time….
    More from one of the Guardians….Sam Kennedy…

    Restore America Plan – Sam Kennedy 3/3/10 Status
    To the blessed listeners of TAKE NO PRISONERS worldwide,

    Well, I guess we got their attention this time.

    As you probably know, The Restore America Plan has made the mainstream media including the lead story on the Fox News Network’s 6 o clock news (Special Report with Bret Baier), CNN MSN, NBC and ABC. Reporters around the country are angling for information, and the worst they can say is: The FBI and Department of Homeland Security are not aware of any immediate or credible threats of violence as part of this group’s plan. Big story there. The FBI has been in the field most courteously around the country and we have opened many new channels of communication. I made a surprise drop-in visit yesterday to a local FBI interview of a grand juror and had the pleasure of sharing information from the horse’s mouth, so to speak, and furthering our lines of communication. All in a day’s work for those of us who are committed to freeing our children before the world degrades into economic and political Armageddon.

    I have a big surprise for our listeners tomorrow night (Sunday, April 3) on TAKE NO PRISONERS (8 PM ET, Republic Broadcasting Network). It’s not something I can just summarize here, but I can promise an immensely enjoyable and satisfying experience especially for members of the Guardians of the Free Republics, our enormous global audience, and the many new listeners we expect to be tuning in across the country. I invite everyone to join me.

    I will also have the pleasure of sharing some of the more substantive elements of my interview of the FBI agent and State officer yesterday. I consider every opportunity to commune with an attorney, judge, prosecutor, law enforcement or bureaucrat a blessing from the Lord.

    And finally, I will share some of the truth of the world around us of which new listeners may not be aware. For instance, I will have the pleasure of showing you the actual source of the 700B “bailout” funds.

    TAKE NO PRISONERS can be heard on FM and shortwave stations around the world, and on the internet via Shoutcast or directly through the network website at:

    http://republicbroadcasting.org

    every Sunday night on the unique voice of freedom, the Republic Broadcasting Network at 8 PM ET, 7 PM CT, 6 PM MT and 5 PM PT. Hope to see you then.

    Thank you for reading and would you kindly consider CIRCULATING THIS EMAIL FAR AND WIDE?

    Peace and Grace to all,

    Sam Kennedy
    http://www.guardiansofthefreerepublics.com

  22. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    I hope to join tonight. Here is Lakin’s response to the brain scan:

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=135781

  23. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    test

  24. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    test again.

  25. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    Lakin’s response to brain scan. Hope I can join in tonight.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=135781

  26. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    very sweet of you. My heart aches for these people. I can’t imagine being next to such demons.

    I came across this newspaper the other day. It has pictures of the birth defects in Gaza due to the weapons that Israel has used on them. It is like the images I saw of the Iraqi children (except some of them were much worse, grotesque in fact). These are nothing less than crimes against humanity.

    I hope after Madsen is back his news spreads far and wide of the U.S. and Israel’s link in trying to overthrow the Turkey government and 9/11. I hope we’ve turned a corner. As I said before, Cheney should be in prison.

  27. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    oops, forgot the link to the newspaper

    http://www.paltelegraph.com/

  28. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    HElen,

    enjoy yourselves! And, thanks for the info.

  29. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    Prairie, Helen, et al

    here’s another interesting site about The Corporation. I’m still sorting through it waiting for Kennedy’s show to come on.

    I was thinking we should tune in early in case their servers go down again. He says they’re ready, but I wonder if they really are!

    QUEEN ELIZABETH CONTROLS AND HAS AMENDED U.S. SOCIAL SECURITY. WTH?

    http://usa-the-republic.com/revenue/Britian-Pontiff.html

  30. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    I’m I understanding now that the Founding Fathers didn’t have our best interest in mind? Is this why RAP is going back to the Common Law? I’m reading the link I posted above and it sure sounds like this is the case.

    What is your take?

  31. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    s/read Am I understanding now….

  32. Posted April 4, 2010 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    yo, where do we sign in. just clicked on RBN but didn’t see a link. help???

  33. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    Have been reading the online book I posted above from The South. It is awesome. Helen, you must read as well. I’m afraid I don’t get the whole founding fathers thing. I finished 6 of the 13 before the boys got home.

  34. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    I missed that post. Have to look it later.

  35. Posted April 4, 2010 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    please provide a link to tonight’s RBN show…

  36. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    Is this it, I just grabbed it from the JS post above.

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/

  37. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    yes

  38. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    click on listen live button – pick internet speed

  39. Posted April 4, 2010 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    click on RBN’s homepage and scroll to the right and you’ll see “listen” live? you’re good to go. h

  40. Posted April 4, 2010 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    is he saying that the inflationary periods experienced due to the Federal Reserve? nothing else. just the banking families? thus, they’ve been ripping us off from our hard earned dollars.

  41. Posted April 4, 2010 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    hello, whatca all think so far

  42. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    more pissed!

  43. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    Wall Street is nothing but a giant casino – created by the same global elite bankers who happen to be Zionists. (sorry, can’t help myself – truth is truth!) Same with The Federal Reserve – who is a consortium of private banks – but only the chosen ones.

  44. Posted April 4, 2010 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    pisses me off too. and yes, wall street is nothing but a big ass casino ripping good citizens off. all we wanted was to make a bit of money that others were. we wanted a slice of the economic pie. bastards!!!

  45. Posted April 4, 2010 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    here we go…

  46. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    I am missing parts trying to feed the kids- I’ll be watching your posts to fill in the blanks.

  47. Posted April 4, 2010 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

    I feel so stupid. How in the hell have bat rastards kept this information away from us citicizens? Moreover, how on earth do the representatives we vote in to serve us decieved us all these years? Why are you and I, citizens of the corporation, just now learning about these Acts and how our sovereign rights as citizens were so recklessly given away? Why? I feel so hoodwinked!

  48. Posted April 4, 2010 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    did anyone catch the code for a US citizen. Chapter 26 is as far as I got b/c the hub interupted. JM did you catch it?

  49. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    I thought I did, but as I was typing it in to google I blanked out on the last 4 digits. I am a paid member to this site and can download / listen to the archived podcasts which should be posted immediately after the show. Let me see if Hubby remembers it.

  50. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    Helen, Prairie, et al

    still looking for those last four digits. In the meantime, THIS looks like a site with loads of info –

    http://www.tax-freedom.com/

  51. Posted April 4, 2010 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    Dr. Kennedy knows his law. This is a man who was a longshore fisherman whose business was shut down long ago by the feds. He then began studying the law…why do I get the feeling he’d rather be on the sea. Sure, he’s doing all of this for us, the man was born to the sea, just as I was born to the land, but he’d doing all of this as a simple fella who learned what the bat rastards have done to us. My respect for him continues to rise.

  52. Posted April 4, 2010 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    well, thoughts? comments? hello? still there?

  53. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    I’m researching Admiralty law. Lots of info.

  54. Posted April 4, 2010 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    It’s true. He is telling everyone the truth. No deed is whole. They were broken up and sold separately on the market. It takes banks years to pull together all of the mortgage threads.

  55. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    I’m here! Just taking it all in.

  56. Posted April 4, 2010 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    r u as overwhelmed as I am OR is it just the wine?

  57. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    Funny, Helen

    I have read a couple of books on The Federal Reserve and the monetary system last year – Creature from Jekyll Island and The Web of Debt. Both are excellent!

    I’ve also watched a number of youtube videos a couple of years ago on the history of our monetary system and the evolution of the “note” – known as the dollar bill. Some of the info I posted on CW’s site. It was dismissed. Too involved with the birth certificate issue.

    I own the DVD Money Masters – it’s great! I own Russo’s Freedom to Fascism movie – another great one about the IRS and the Federal Reserve and the NWO plan. I’ve watched untold numbers of videos on Youtube about money and debt.

    What was missing for me was the info about the Common Law and Admiralty Law. I have heard a guest on Alex’s show before discussing Admiralty Law and the fact they can’t carry firearms – which I thought was odd due to the situation with the pirates, but I didn’t realize we were operating under that law.

    Still livin and learnin, aren’t we?

  58. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZqb0TW15EE
    Still searching out more on admiralty law.

  59. Posted April 4, 2010 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    yep, still livin and learnin. He covered so much material tonight that it’s going to take me a week of research and reading just to catch up. Why do I feel I was in class tonigh? i smile

  60. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Pay dirt on Admiralty law and much more.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZqb0TW15EE

  61. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    No not it. wrong cut and paste.

  62. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    This one:

    http://www.barefootsworld.net/admiralty.html

  63. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone need the podcast? I can email it.

  64. Posted April 4, 2010 at 10:34 pm | Permalink

    good girl, Prairie!

  65. Posted April 4, 2010 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

    Si, Senorita! once we have the podast we can disect and put together posts. please know that I’ve reached out to a constitutional professional and have materials that may enlighten us even more. We need to take this opportunity and turn it into an educational tool. Are you in? If so, let’s start work first thing tomorrow morning. h

  66. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Helen, Prairie, I’ll send them via email now – 2 separate ones due to file size.

  67. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    Well, the file is too large for hotmail. Let me try yahoo.

  68. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    I’m sending you an email from my yahoo acct with only the first hour attached. I will wait to hear if you receive it and if you can listen to it before I send the other one.

  69. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    JS is reporting they are now going into Bush family secrets- hmmm. Sure she will report.

  70. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    Kinda freaks me out agreeing with JS lately. LOL.

  71. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    Okay, plan B. Yahoo didn’t work either.

  72. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 11:04 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    No mail yet.

  73. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 11:07 pm | Permalink

    Interesting week, check this out:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2486736/posts

  74. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 11:11 pm | Permalink

    Plan be is in motion. I appreciate your trust. I could be an obot you know.

  75. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    that’s the next program up on RBN talking about Bush Secrets. This is Russ Baker, author of Bush Family Secrets. I have this book. It’s HUGE. I pick it up and put it down from time to time.

    As I said before, if people would just read books out there on this family, the wouldn’t wish for Bush’s return. Drives me crazy!

    Bush’s grandpappy funded Hitler. Barbara wasn’t as sweet as we were led to believe she was. Tarpley has written extensively about Bush, Sr.

  76. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 11:14 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    no worries – anyone that has a beer factory in their studio is alright in my book!

  77. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    Funded Hitler, damn. I believe my mind is about to explode.

  78. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 11:19 pm | Permalink

    Prairie – mine exploded long ago.

    just google prescott bush + hitler then take your pick of sites.

  79. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    Will do. I’m off to read more of this online book. Please check it out, the first few pages will have you hooked-
    http://www.spiritualeconomicsnow.net/solutions/How_I_08.pdf

  80. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    Time for jammies.

    See you great women tomorrow!

  81. Prairie
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    Jacqlyn Smith // April 4, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    I’m back….they got tired of waiting on me….here is a comment from…about the RAP….I think FTC has explained our situation pretty well…..

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    # Follow the Constitution Says:
    April 4th, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    What they have done is ARRESTED all the bonds on those governors. After 72 hours of having your bond arrested you are basically done! ALL public officials have to be bonded. When they screw up you can take their bonds. They took their bonds!

    This process works better than you kniw. Tim Turner has done this to Judges and they HAD to be removed from the bench because their bond was taken and once that happens you can not just obtain another bond. Those Judges are done! They can never be a Judge again! This is the same thing they just did to the governors. They are now under a bond by the People and they have to governern under the constitution now. If they don’t then they will be arrested. That is where the military will step in and remove them.

    This is a process like anything else. The main thing is they want this done peacefully and behind the scenes so not to upset the masses of People. Can you imagine if the fraud he was exposing got out to the masses? There would be a major uprising from the people wanting to lynch these politicians! That is the last thing they want to see happen. Think of all the thousands of people that have been victims of their fraud and prosecuted under their fraud and the number of lives destroyed over the years. The last thing they want is to have this get out to the public on a grand scale and create an uprising.

    Give it time. If this will work you will start to notice changes within the next 30 days. This is a 8 – 10 year process before everything is completely restored. But a lot of major things are suppose to happen over the next 30 days. We will see if any governors decide to step down in the next 30 days or if they all comply or whatever. In 30 days from now we will know whether this is really working or not.

  82. JustMe
    Posted April 4, 2010 at 11:39 pm | Permalink

    Project for New American Century = PNAC documents.

    Russ Baker is talking about this as one of the reasons for going in to Iraq.

    Don’t expect Russ to expand on 9/11. He won’t touch this issue in detail. He doesn’t in his book either.

  83. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 8:58 am | Permalink

    It’s never ending….ISRAEL MILITARY STRATEGIST TO TRAVEL TO WIN CHINESE BACKING – WTH???

    Desperate, aren’t they, to start WWIII?

    The Israeli regime plans to send its top military strategist to China this week to convince Beijing to back sanctions against Tehran over its nuclear program.

    Head of Tel Aviv army’s planning directorate Major General Amir Eshel intends to serve Beijing with ‘renewed’ threats of military strikes against Iran, wishing to persuade China to follow along with the US-led push at the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) to impose a fourth round of sanctions against Iran, British weekly newspaper The Sunday Times reported today.

    According to the weekly, a subsidiary of the multi-national press conglomerate The News Corporation owned by Jewish media mogul Rupert Murdoch, Eshel will warn officials in Beijing that an Israeli military attack on Iran could disrupt oil supplies to China and its rapidly growing economy.

    Aggressive Israeli efforts against Iran’s nuclear program come despite widespread reports of its possession of over 200 nuclear warheads that was acquired with blessings from Tel Aviv’s Western sponsors. Israel has refused to sign or commit to any international atomic regulatory treaties.

    Meanwhile, as a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), Iran has opened its nuclear facilities to intrusive inspections and round-the-clock supervision by the UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

    Moreover, Iran has also called for an international abandonment of all nuclear weapon arsenals and development efforts, which has been ignored by all countries possessing nuclear weapons

    http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=122430&sectionid=351020104

  84. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:03 am | Permalink

    Good Morning, Venice,

    any thoughts on this?

    Oil hits 18-month high on economic outlook – $85 per barrell and climbing toward $86

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6142V820100405

  85. Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:06 am | Permalink

    JS tends to put trust in male authorities. How many times did we try to tell her both Parties were dirty, the Bushies were in bed w/the Clintons and more. Hell, that’s what most of arguments were with her. Let’s hope Sam can do what none of us women could do.

  86. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    This is hilarious! Max Keiser sings the subprime mortgage blues.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxQ_Ck08jcU&feature=player_embedded#

  87. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    Here’s a good video on gold – Max Keiser from Feb 23.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQazSediuYs&feature=related

  88. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    Helen,

    Maybe now, she’ll find Alex a good source for what is really going on.

  89. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    Helen,

    I will post notes from Lindsey William’s death bed confession with one of the elites that took place last November. We can compare with where we are today.

    Also, I heard Russ Baker say that Jeb Bush was preparing to get back in the “race” as was his son who has moved to Texas to prepare for his political career. WE MUST STOP THIS MADNESS!!!

  90. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    Lindsey Williams’ Predictions – November 2009

    OIL:
    Saudi must have $80 p barrel to maintain their budget of roughly $400 billion. The plan is to drag down all of the opec oil countries – forcing them to suffer a slow death. The manner in which they plan to do this is to keep oil at $60-70 p barrel. This will force opec to go back into their reserve fund – which is the dollar. They’ll have to sell off a bill here, a bill there, until the world’s economy is flooded with American currency. The excess of Am. currency pouring into the market will further reduce the value of the dollar. At this point the dollar will be completely dead. It will be Weimar Republic redux – hyperinflation.

    The Bakken oil reserve, which covers approx 2/3rds of North Dakota, has 8 times as much oil as Saudi and 18 times as much oil as Iraq. It is the largest domestic oil discovery since Prudhoe Bay on the North Slope of Alaska. He has first hand knowledge about Prudhoe Bay, acting as Chaplain on the N. Alaska pipeline. His elite intel told him they will NEVER drill/produce oil from either of these two places. Never ever. It’s all by design. As we know Congress passed legislation prohibiting production of the Bakken reserve. They (the elite) do not want America to be able to produce anything out of the ground that would result in wealth.

    When war breaks out, and it will, overnight gasoline prices will rise to $4-$10 per gallon.

    UPDATE:
    A recent phone conversation Lindsey had with same elite – name unknown – asked why the price of oil was going up since the plan was to keep it at $60-70 p barrel. Answer was something like “Silly rabbit, the price of oil is the same, the value of the dollar is going down down down.” So, Lindsey’s insight was to watch the barrel price as the gauge for the devaluation of our dollar. This appears to be what we’re seeing now.

  91. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    Here’s a video of Lindsey’s Williams’ update on February 25, 2010 I found on Youtube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqiBhWsykzo

  92. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    Okay, I found a better youtube interview with Jeff Rense/Lindsey Williams that covers this latest update and oil price tied to the value of the dollar in more detail.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJiqO44gVEo&feature=related

  93. Posted April 5, 2010 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    this is one of the links mentioned on last night’s show. please take the time to read it. http://usa-the-republic.com/revenue/Britian-Pontiff.html

  94. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Another SPECIAL REPORT FROM WAYNE MADSEN – he’s in Turkey getting the REAL dirt.

    April 6-7, 2010 — Israel Lobby behind attacks on Erdogan government in Turkey

    Dateline Istanbul — WMR has learned from informed sources that the pro-Israel think tank, the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), formerly headed up by President Obama’s current Middle East adviser on the National Security Council, Dennis Ross, has been identified as a key player in a Turkish and international psychological warfare effort to paint the Justice and Development Party (AKP) government of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan as “radical Islamist.” Erdogan has come in for attack by the Israel Lobby because of his outspoken criticism of Israel over its attack on Gaza and his walking out of a 2009 Davos conference seminar where Israeli President Shimon Peres was also in attendance.

    WINEP, through one of its Turkey experts, Soner Cagaptay, has attacked Erdogan as a dangerous Islamist. Cagaptay also crticizes Turkey over its prosecution of key members of the Ergenekon “deep state” network, which stands accused of trying to overthrow Erdogan in a military coup. WINEP acts in concert with the wishes of the Likud government of Israel (MY NOTE: NETANYAHU is head of the Likud party) and WMR has learned of close links between the Kemal Atatukist officials involved with Ergenekon and top Likud and Mossad officials. These links also extend to the Israeli Lobby operations in Washington, including WINEP, the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). (Oh, geeeee what a surprise!)

    WMR has obtained a document on a planned Ergenekon operation code-named OPERATION CAGE, which, among other things, outlines the plans of Ergenekon to plant stories in the media and on the Internet that were critical of Erdogan’s government and attempted to stoke ethnic tensions against the ruling AKP government. (Now if Wayne could just get his hands on the document for the 9/11 planned attack maybe we could take this country back!)

    Operation Cage should serve as an example of how the U.S. “deep state” conducts similar operations in the United States and abroad.

    http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20100405_1?

    I will email each of you the document covering Operation Cage. Believe me, it’s worth the read to see how they methodically implement these events. It’s probably a “template” and they just change a few of the items and, bam, off to the next event.

  95. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    Helen,

    this is a good link. I think I posted it earlier on the thread. I was pissed when I read the Queen amended the SS act. I also clicked on the home page – upper left corner. Lots of additional info there.

    Whatcha thinking so far, Sister?

  96. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    Helen,

    what was the good site for Admiralty Law? I haven’t looked at that yet.

  97. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Okay,

    OPERATION CAGE document has been emailed to you!

  98. Posted April 5, 2010 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    I haven’t read the Admiralty Law documents yet. Will give update when I do.

  99. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    HEADS UP – Ron Paul on Alex’s show now!

    http://www.infowars.com
    phone 512-646-5000

  100. Prairie
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    Reposting this on Admiralty law. It was full of documented facts and U.S. code to support what is being discussed on RAP. Just finished the info on the Queen and SS. WTH?

    http://www.barefootsworld.net/admiralty.html

  101. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Prairie, Helen, et al

    exactly, WTH on the Queen and SS?

    Thanks for the link on Admiralty Law. I’m paying bills right now and will have a look afterwards. Speaking of paying bills, check out this article a poster on Madsen’s site provided a link to.

    IT’S ABOUT WHAT IS NOT BEING SAID.

    What the media is not telling us is that many of the most highly paid bosses in the USA and Europe are Jewish.

    RICH GUYS RIPPING PEOPLE OFF?
    http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/04/rich-guys-ripping-people-off.html

  102. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    I can’t remember if I posted this link or not. Listening over the weekend to POZitively Unconstitutional on RBN, the host Phil, gave out this website. Jerry Kirk, who appears to be an attorney, is a FREE man – at least from the government.

    http://freedom-school.com/jerry-kirk/index.htm

    He explains how to do this – repealing/revoking your birth certificate – so as to be free. If your mother is alive it didn’t appear to be that difficult to do. He wasn’t so lucky and had to take it to the Supreme Court. He was victorious. He pays NO INCOME TAXES, has NO DRIVER’S LICENSE, doesn’t purchase CAR TAGS, etc…I can’t imagine!

    His site has a wealth of info on it. Check it out.

  103. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    There’s no more excuses for ignorance. It’s all here!

    http://www.factsnotfairies.blogspot.com/

  104. Prairie
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Rush just played the audio of MO saying Kenya was o’s home country- clearly stating it. What do ya all make of that? Of course, it was right before end of his show so no commentary from him. Never a dull moment is there?

  105. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    you have mail…link to a series of videos. Wait til you get to #4…I’m going to #5 now. Mind blowing!

  106. Prairie
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    Too many video links bring over at once. All about the explosives used on 9/11- article is called the smoking gun.

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=170475

  107. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    Hillarious, Eustace Mullins said, McCain is married to a mafia princess in AZ, he’s the biggest phoney in U.S., rolling in money, has 100% media support. You’d think he was Frank Sintra. (video #6)

    I love this man! I’m sorry to know he’s left this world I’m ROFLMAO

    He’s a protege of Ezra Pound. I remember reading about him a few months ago.

  108. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    see the link I posted @2:35. It looks like this is the site they (rumor mills) pulled info from. It’s an excellent resource.

  109. Prairie
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    What do you make of Rush coming out with the video. Think the powers to be are done with him?

  110. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    I’ve heard that clip and I didn’t read as much into it as others did. It is no secret that his father was Kenyan. So, to say it’s his home country I took to mean nothing more than he has “blood line” connections. I don’t know who MO was addressing, but she could have been using it to garner points. Especially now that we are heavily involved in war in Africa right now. It’s not getting any press.

    BTW, I like Rush, but I still think all those guys are controlled and can take a bit of creativity freedom here and there.

  111. Posted April 5, 2010 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    JM – I concur with your assessment of folks like Rush, Savage and others being controlled. They are. You can tell by the content they cover and what their slant is.

    Just finished wastching the series of Eustace Mullins, love that name Eustace, and found it as mesmerizing as I did Ms. Griggs interview. The information they share so freely and matter a factly is a sign of one who has aged and know their days are numbered. Brave souls they are/were. God bless them for doing all they could to leave behind their truths for those like us to pick up on.

    Regarding the Byrd machine here in Virginia. I was a little one living in Alexandria then so have no recollection whatsoever. That said, however, what I’ve heard anectodally is the long arm that machine had. The budget conferee process I’m readying to fight is a remnant of the old Byrd machine. It was intentionally designed to keep, hold and use power to rule over the interested. It’s one of the few remnants that are left. I’m sure there are others I’m just not aware of them.

  112. Posted April 5, 2010 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    Question, JM – first, where did you learn Mr. Mullins had died. Please send a link.

  113. Prairie
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    I agree about Rush and others being controlled media, that is why I find his playing the clip to be important. For some reason, more and more info is “leaking” on o-

  114. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    Helen, there are several links on his death. I have to post in two posts so I don’t go into moderation.

    This is an interesting article about him. I’m humbled by his existence.

    Eustace Mullins.

    http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_415.shtml

  115. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    Eustace Mullins death

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread540680/pg1

  116. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    yes, you may have a good point about Rush and the rest of the boys. Though I haven’t listened to them in ages. However, Rush has dipped his toe in the b/c issue before hasn’t he?

  117. Posted April 5, 2010 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    Prairie, the likely reason more and more is being reported by folks like Rush is b/c a false flag event is likely going to happen on his life. Many have been predicting this and some have come right out and said his life is the next false flag target. Who knows? My prayer is no ill harm comes to him or his family. None. Such an act would only feed the crazies on the left and engage their zombie selves into a rage that would serve no one, but the D Club.

  118. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    what did you think about Eustace’s declaration that no one has ever seen the Articles of Confederation? I’m still listening to other videos of his.

  119. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

    This will disgust you. Wikileaks releases the video of US forces gunning down innocent Iraqis and Reuter’s reporters.

    http://collateralmurder.com/

  120. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

    I’m literally sick to my stomach after what I just witnessed on that video. This is really something to be proud of. A senseless war based on KNOWN fabricated lies. And yet it continues.

    When we will stand up and say enough is enough?

  121. Posted April 5, 2010 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    bringing this over from JS at CW who brought it over from AGJ –

    Comment Author: Follow the Constitution
    Comment Date: 2010-04-05 16:57:04

    Here is something to really make you ill! Welcome to the United States of the Federal Reserve Welcome to the United States of the Federal Reserve Does the constitution give law making authority to the president? NO! The constitution only gave the president the authority to veto laws. The constitution states that Congress shall make all laws. Does the constitution give authority to Congress to re-delegate law making authority to federal agencies? NO! Does the Constitution give jurisdiction to Congress to franchise the Bar Association to create a new judicial system? I don’t think so. Read below and tell me if this could have taken place in a Constitutional Republic or if the United States was dissolved in 1933 as Rep. James Traficant, Jr. stated in the United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303 : “Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that will lead to our demise. It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719 declared by President Roosevelt. Being bankrupt and insolvent, H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress in session June 5, 1933, Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only. In 1942, the licensing and regulatory powers of the President under the Trading With the Enemy Act were transferred to the Secretary of the Treasury, but in actuality, it was transferred to the Federal Reserve System. In addition to controlling all banking, securities trading, and commercial trade, the Secretary of the Treasury controls all Executive Branch agencies, since these agencies’ existence is predicated upon licensed activities. The regulations these agencies produce, independent of Congressional oversight, are published in the Federal Register by the Secretary and enforced as law. Title 12 — banks and banking chapter 2 national banks subchapter iv — regulation of the banking business; powers and duties of national banks § 95a. Regulation of transactions in foreign exchange of gold and silver; property transfers; vested interests, enforcement and penalties. By virtue of the fact that the whole nation deals in Federal Reserve Notes, which are notes of debt owed to the Fed, and that the Secretary of the Treasury has statutory control of all licensing of people, property and commerce in America, it is therefore logical, supported by statutory evidence, that the Secretary of the Treasury, under the direction of the stockholders of the Federal Reserve System, has virtual control over America and its citizens, aided and abetted by the judicial and executive branches, including all State and local governments. This could only be done because President Roosevelt was acting under a declared emergency [bankruptcy of 1933] Martial Law Rule under Necessity which had been declared under President Lincoln during the Civil War and has never been repealed. A declaration of Peace was never declared, so in truth, we are still fighting the Civil War. Why are we still under the war powers of Lincoln? Why is it that the federal regime carries out seizure and forfeitures without due process of law? Why, when suits are filed against the federal regime does the judge always rule in favor of the United States? When you read 12 Statutes at Large 319, you will have your answer. They have never repealed this statute. The codes in Title 28, and Title 50 that pertain to seizure, have their source as this Statute at Large. If you read 12 Statutes at Large 319 you will see that the people of the southern states and all others sympathetic to the south were declared “Enemies of the State.” The State of course being the United States and not the individual States of the Union. The Bank of England caused Washington to create the First bank of the United States in 1791 for the purpose of controlling the money. It then ran into a problem in 1846 when the Independent Treasury was created by the U.S. and the States to protect their own money. President Lincoln then made us the enemy of the Government (State) by 12 Stat 319 in 1862 and Congress continued to keep the status quo by the creation of the Reconstruction Acts in 1867. Then in 1868 the 14th Amendment placed the people of both the north and south under the control of the military rule. The “other” banking system, after gaining a foothold in 1913 by the creation of the Federal Reserve System, caused the demise of the Independent Treasury. To complete the enemy status, Roosevelt finalized us as enemies of the bank in 48 Stat 1, March 9, 1933. It is the Congress that has enslaved the people of this country in order to placate the international bankers of the Federal Reserve System and to hell with the American People. I have written about this before but never included the actual Statute at Large. It is below. I WILL CAPITALIZE those words that the government is using today to allow the destruction of our freedom. Congress wrote this Statute during the Civil War, but the important words do not pertain to only the Civil War. In passing the Reconstruction Acts Congress reversed the roles of the people and the government. In other words, the people became the slaves of Congress. This is why Congress never repealed this Statute. It allows Congress to use the statutory words of reconstruction to rule the people with an iron hand. This Statute is the root of all our problems today, whether they are drugs, taxes, property condemnation, healthcare, open borders etc. THIRTY-SEVENTH CONGRESS, Ses. I. Ca. 60, 61. 1861. Chap. LX.–An Act to confiscate Property used for insurrectionary Purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That if, during the present or any future insurrection against the Government of the United States, after the President of the United States shall have declared, by proclamation, THAT THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES ARE OPPOSED, and THE EXECUTION THEREOF OBSTRUCTED, by combinations too powerful to be suppressed by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, or by the power vested in the marshals by law, any person or persons, his, her, or their agent, attorney, or employee, shall purchase or acquire, sell or give, any property of whatsoever kind or description, with intent to use or employ the same, or suffer the same to be used or employed, in aiding, abetting, or promoting such insurrection or RESISTANCE TO THE LAWS, or any person or persons engaged therein; or if any person or persons, being the owner or owners of any such property, shall knowingly use or employ, or consent to the use or employment of the same as aforesaid, ALL SUCH PROPERTY IS HEREBY DECLARED TO BE LAWFUL SUBJECT OF PRIZE AND CAPTURE WHEREVER FOUND; AND IT SHALL BE THE DUTY OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO CAUSE THE SAME TO BE SEIZED, CONFISCATED, AND CONDEMNED. Sec. 2. And be it further enacted, That such PRIZES AND CAPTURE shall be condemned in the DISTRICT OR CIRCUIT COURT OF THE UNITED STATES having jurisdiction of the amount, or IN ADMIRALTY IN ANY DISTRICT IN WHICH THE SAME MAY BE SEIZED, or into which they may be taken and proceedings FIRST INSTITUTED. Sec. 3..And be it further enacted, That the Attorney-General, or any district attorney of the United States in which said property may at the time be, may institute the proceedings of condemnation, and in such case they shall be wholly for the benefit of the United States; or any person may file an information with such attorney, in which case the proceedings shall be for the use of such informer and the United States in equal parts. Sec. 4. And be it further enacted, That whenever hereafter, during the present insurrection against the Government of the United States, any person claimed to be held to labor or service under the law of any State, shall be required or permitted by the person to whom such labor or service is claimed to be due, or by the lawful agent of such person, to take up arms against the United States, or shall be required or permitted by the person to whom such labor or service is claimed to be due, or his lawful agent, to work or to be employed in or upon any fort, navy yard, dock, armory, ship, entrenchment, or in any military or naval service whatsoever, against the Government and lawful authority of’ the United States, then, and in every such case, the person to whom such labor or service is claimed to be due shall forfeit his claim to such labor, any law of the State or of the United States to the contrary notwithstanding. And whenever thereafter the person claiming such labor or service shall seek to enforce his claim, it shall be a full and sufficient answer to such claim that the person whose service or labor is claimed had been employed in hostile service against the Government of the United States, contrary to the provisions of this act. Approved, August 6, 1861. This encroachment on the people’s liberty took place over an extended period of time so as to not make obvious that which would be otherwise intolerable. The Social Security number plays but a small part in the overall scheme. Before the number existed, your lineage were considered the enemy under the 1867 Reconstruction Acts and you, being their heirs, are still the enemy today. The total object from the 1791 Act by Washington, to the 1933 act by Roosevelt was to totally control the money and the labor of the American people. 2010– Year of the Slave or Year of Liberty You are a slave. You probably do not realize it, but you are. Movies and public schools portray slaves as bound by chains and beaten with whips, creating a polarized image of slavery that can be pointed to with the comment, “You are not like that, therefore you are not a slave.” But history shows that slaves have been treated in all manner of ways, some more cruel than others. Even with kind treatment, a slave remains a slave. Setting aside the stereotyped image of a slave as a bleeding chain-bound wretch, slaves throughout history are often hard to recognize. In some cases, such as the Medieval Serfs, they were held slaves to the rulers by religious belief, and did not see themselves as slaves even though they were treated as such. The favored slaves of Asian potentates wore jewels to make a movie star gasp, yet were still slaves for all their finery and comfort. So, what is a slave? How do we define a slave? What test do we use to tell if someone is a slave? What makes them different from free people? Free people can say “no”. Free people can refuse demands for their money, time, and children. Slaves cannot. There is no freedom without the freedom to say “no”. If someone demands that you do something and you can say “no” and refuse to do it, then you are a free human being. If you can be forced to do something or surrender something that you do not wish to, then you are a slave. No other test need be applied. Freedom is the freedom to say “NO.” The rulers want our children for their future wars. Legislation for a draft is already in Congress. Can you refuse the confiscation of your children? No? Congress has passed legislation for a “voluntary” national service program. It is being called “voluntary” to get around the 13th amendment, but volunteerism implies a choice, and no choice is being offered here. The government has been caught lying over and over again to the people. Americans are the most lied-to people on Earth. Can you refuse to be lied to? Can you punish the liars? No? By 2003 the chains started to become visible. The Constitutional right to freedom of expression was confined to “free-speech” zones. A slave may have an opinion, so long as it is not expressed where it might upset the other slaves. The Constitutional right to an armed populace, the means by which the men who set up a nation of free citizens hoped to keep them free, is under constant attack from those who fear a nation of free citizens, and who will not sleep soundly until we are a nation entirely of unarmed slaves. Armed citizens can, after all, say “NO.” That was why there was a Second Amendment, to allow the people to say “no” to those who would return them to the slavery they had so recently escaped from. Other Constitutional rights and protections have been set aside. The government can now search through your private records without cause and without warrant, even break into your home and not have to tell you. Simply by declaring a citizen an enemy combatant, the government can now lock up US citizens without a charge and without a lawyer. You can be prevented from traveling simply for having the wrong name. If you purchase too much gold or take home too much cash, or hoard food, the government will take notice. Talking about the Constitution is now deemed grounds to suspect you are a terrorist. The government (at all levels) has borrowed trillions of dollars and assigned payment of the debt to our children. Children not even born yet will be paying off the bills. To declare the lives of children not yet born, let alone old enough to vote, indentured to the state is slavery most obvious and odious. Can you refuse responsibility for payments on debts the government incurred without your permission? No? During the debate on TARP, more than 90% of Americans opposed using taxpayer money to help rich Wall Street con-artists escape the costly mistakes of their own making. Did Congress listen when you said “No?” Congress has borrowed so much money that it has long ago run out of gold to pledge as collateral on the debts. Starting in Nixon’s administration, natural resources were used as collateral for the mounting debts. Borrow more money; promise a chunk of public lands as collateral. These land pledges were concealed behind “Environmentalism” to disguise the real purpose. Numerous names such as “Wilderness Reserve”, “Wetland”, “Heritage River”, and so forth were used to conceal the true scale of the confiscations. But the end result was the same. Huge tracts of public land containing natural resources were walled away from the public that owned them, mortgaged to the holders of the US Government debt. We are now mere tenants on our own land. Were you able to refuse having your public lands placed at risk by the US Government to cover loans you never authorized the government to make? No? Trust funds under government control are being looted, from the Social Security trust fund to Native American trust accounts to Federal Retirement Funds. Congress pays lip service to the looting of Social Security, but considers only more taxes to cover the looted shortfall. Meanwhile, court cases over other looted trust accounts drag on without resolution. Are you able to refuse corrupt and dishonest government? No? You are a slave because the ruling class can do what they want, take what they want, and you cannot refuse. You may have freedom to decide what TV channel to watch tonight, or just which style car you will drive, but little power over the rest of your life. Even that home you have worked to pay for over the last decade can be taken from you at a moment’s notice via “eminent domain” or the “Force Majeur” clause in your mortgage agreement, or skyrocketing interest rates. Can you refuse? No? More damage is being done to our Nation by Congress who claims to be saving us from the Terrorists than by any actual terrorist act. What few remaining freedoms do we have? We are more watched, more spied on, more limited, more silenced, more taxed, and more enslaved that at any other time in our nation’s history. Not only are we slaves, we are at last starting to see that we have been slaves all along. We did not have rights, because a right cannot be taken away. What we had were privileges, granted by the masters to the slaves, to be removed when the masters grow fearful of the slaves’ resentment and anger. We have watched as people we care about lost their homes and businesses. Their labors of a lifetime evaporated in stock market manipulations by corporate criminals. The Americans who worked hard to achieve the American dream lost it all through no fault of their own. Our schools are broke, hospitals are under-staffed and broke, the roads and bridges and rails of the nation are crumbling while billions of dollars are given away to foreign nations, favored cronies, and the ravenous taxing of Congress. The priorities of the government that feeds on taxes seems focused everywhere but on those who pay those taxes. The state of the nation can be summed up by the image of homeless people camped out in front of boarded up and foreclosed homes. The United States is like that other slave empire, Rome and it is headed for the same fate. On a more practical level, with the total incompetence of this administration, sooner or later the US will wind up at war with someone who really DOES have nuclear weapons of mass destruction. That this is what the government expects is witnessed by the numerous underground facilities which have been built or upgraded in recent years. You paid for them, but you won’t be allowed in them. The United States has allowed its manufacturing to decay over the last 30 years. Our manufacturing is gone. In a major war, we lack the industrial capacity to sustain the kind of production of war material needed to prevail in a prolonged conflict. With our economy on the brink of default, our next war will likely be our last. Even without a war, the US Government will eventually collapse as did the Soviet Union, dragged down by debt and corruption. As the final collapse looms closer, look for the looting of the nation to become even bolder than it is now. The last official act of any government before it falls is to loot the nation. We appear to be there now. EPA has been given the green light to do what cap and trade was to do without the anger of the people being directed at Congress. Obamacare, it is said, will cause the loss of millions of jobs, ruin our healthcare delivery system and bankrupt and kill the people. And now the ultimate treason is about to unfold. Talks of uniting the United States with Canada and Mexico to create the “North American Union” have resumed behind closed doors. Congress is going to give America away to make the bankers richer. I am opposed to violence. I wish it could be avoided. I believe that this nation is headed towards a collision between the rulers and the ruled. The government fears this as well as demonstrated by the constant threat of gun confiscation. I think that the reason we have not seen it yet is that Americans have been conditioned to expect a hero or savior to come and make things right. Maybe the next election will bring us a Messiah to end the taxes and the tyranny. NEWS FLASH: He’s not coming. The belief that one should wait quietly for a hero is part of the slavery mechanism, to keep you in your place, paying taxes, breeding more tax payers, while waiting for the salvation that never comes. Past history has shown that the patience of an entire people can run out, and I predict that when the final upheaval comes, it will arrive as suddenly as that which occurred in Romania. In November 1989, Romania seemed stable under the rule of Nicholai Ceausescu. One month later, a sporting event erupted into a spontaneous political protest and on December 25th, Nicholai Ceausescu was tried and sentenced to death. Ceausescu proved that Tyrants Should Not Confuse Silence With Consent. The Romanian people finally realized that nobody was coming to save them, and they had the courage to save themselves. The collapse of the USSR was equally rapid and almost as unexpected. So, shall it be like this in the US? NOW IS THE TIME TO REFUSE TO OBEY THEM. The healthcare bill calls for chipping all Americans within 90 days of the signing of the bill. It’s been signed. EPA has issued new rules circumventing congress to enforce cap and trade regulations. Congress thinks this will fool the people. The plan to merge Canada and Mexico is back on the table and expected to be approved. CONGRESS IS GIVING OUR COUNTRY AWAY. When you live under a government that takes your wealth and your children and lies to you to keep you docile and scares you to keep you obedient it’s time for the people of America to draw their line in the sand. Whether you and your children will live as slaves in a NEW COUNTRY or as free human beings in the United States of America is entirely up to you. . Time to choose. So, we have two options. Surrender to the bankers and the traitors in congress and lose everything, or finish fighting the Civil War to free ourselves from the bankers greed and political corruption on all levels. We fight, we win, we repudiate the debt, we become self sufficient, we rebuild our country. We live free. We hold these truths to be self-evident

  122. Posted April 5, 2010 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    tried to pull up the video but failed. do you have another linK????

  123. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    Ah, geezee, Helen….I can’t believe how difficult this post is to read. Good thing The South isn’t on here – he would tell you exactly how to format it. …i smile…

    I will just copy and paste it in another document and add paragraph breaks to get through it, cause I’m sure it’s great.

  124. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    http://www.presstv.com/

    2nd article down to the right of the pic

  125. Posted April 5, 2010 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    ah geez, sorry it’s so hard to read but damn it is good. so, take your format and post it so others who may have difficulty reading it can. How’s that. BTW, did I say it was damned good!!!

  126. Posted April 5, 2010 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    JM – dutch, Karzai, Iraq or Palestine?

  127. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    No, US choppers video

  128. Posted April 5, 2010 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    I need to take a break after watching that video. Tears are welling. be back in a few.

  129. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    I know, Helen. I’m still affected from it. I have dinner in the oven and I don’t think I’ll even be able to eat.

    I say it’s time to bring the boys home!

    It’s also time to look at Cindy Sheehan in a different light. We all know the image the media has painted of her and we bought into.

  130. Posted April 5, 2010 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    Wow! That video is disturbing. Since when did our soldiers mistake a backback for an AK47? This is so sad and disturbing all at the same time. Who do you blame and on what basis. Our soldiers are in a combat zone and are on the lookout for enemies. Yet, these men weren’t enemies and they were harmless. Such events happen but how and why? I’m truly disturbed.

  131. venice
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,

    Finally able to get to your question this am, though I see you answered it nicely. Here’s a good, but winded article on oil. Author refers to the “wild card” war with Iran. Well I don’t think it’s very wild.

    Oil is positioned to go up and author says there is NO chance it will go down.

    A rise in oil historically corresponds to an impending recession. In reference to this being connected to a devaluing dollar, this may explain only partly the rise in the price of oil, but that remains to be seen. Also, demand will go up due to developing nations’ needs. Current supply will not meet demanding needs.

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/197023-the-new-reality-of-90-plus-oil

  132. Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    I have a need to change the conversation. Why? B/c I have know idea what thoughts are running through our men/women’s mind when at war, and I don’t even know how to formulate an excuse or a reason. Therefore, I am disturbed. What do do about this? I haven’t a clue. One thing I do know though is I am loyal to our men and women and refuse to cast judgement on their actions. Yeah, this video is horrible and shows their mental/psychological degradation. And yeah, they need to come home NOW. Am I making sense?

  133. venice
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    http://www.thedailybell.com/936/Fear-Rises-as-Iran-War-Looms.html

    This article puts a war with Iran in global context and particular with manipulation of the power elites. It is the author’s contention that the power elites will not win due to the “dominant social themes” of our times.

  134. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    no need to pass judgement – it’s important to remember how long we’ve been there and the number of casualties. I’ve seen counters on other sites. It’s senseless and the bottom line is these guys have to be weary and they need to come home! Iraq was never a threat. It isn’t to this day.

    Bring our boys home!

  135. venice
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2010/04/05/santelli-4-gas-150-oil-coming-summer

    Santelli believes it’s the flight from equities to commodities that will push gas to 4 and oil to 150 dollars. Wow!

  136. Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    JM – the last thing I wish to do is past judgement. This video shows how they’ve lost sight of the enemy. That is, like you said, there ever was an enemy, which I happen to concur with you regarding our attack on Iraq. Never have I supported the pre eminent strike. Not once. Nor will I ever. When we first struck Iraq, was when I started to learn about PNAC at Truthout. These guys were doing amazing work to show the Neocon’s, e.g, Republican extreme right, and was when I first learned about their plan. It boggled my mind and I knew then that our attack, no matter what Powell said to the UN, was for oil and empire building. That was in 2002. Thus, I’ve read everything I could get my hands on about PNAC since then. I’ve held the belief since 2002 the neocon’s were the dangerous force dictating our national policy, however, you are the one that has opened my mind to the Zionist and their mutual goal w/PNAC. These two entitities serve as the terrorist’s within. These are the bat rastards creating and dictating our national policy. Do not for one moment ever think I judge you or the wealth of information you bring to The T-Room. The video you linked to everyone should see. Our military has lost sight of who their enemy is and this video proves it as Ms. Sheehan has been trying to say to all of us for nearly 10 years now. God bless her and you. Bringing the ugly truth forward to us is not an easy task and I respect you fully for bringing mine and others attention to it.

  137. Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    Bring our boys home! and our girls! None of us American’s should be there today or yesterday. It’s a false war. One of which we never should have conducted. Never!!!

  138. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    thank you for your comment.

    I know this was hard to see. But, this is a sobering reality for all of us. We only see what the government/media want us to see. And we go about our daily lives as if everything is fine. It isn’t! It hasn’t been for a very long time.

    I know these men/women and their families are weary. And, yet there’s more demand being put on them for the new war in Africa, the looming threat in Iran and something is brewing in the Latin America countries. There is NO threat to the United States. Hasn’t been since WWII, and that’s being questioned now by historians. These are wars by and for the Zionist bankers. We are all weary from the drain – physical, mentally, and financial – but no doubt those on the front line are more so. And what of lifetime injuries that are sustained? And the effects of the fallout that’s been left behind for future generations?

    I have a feeling this is why Sam Kennedy was approached by the military to put an end to this madness. And God bless those that stepped forward.

    It’s time to bring the troops home!

  139. Prairie
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    I’m hear just listening again. Heart saddened and heavy. Watched the video. Read the WMR on Turkey. Am watching the coveraged of the trapped miners. False flag to stet the stage for o’s attack on the coal mining industry? I think so.

  140. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Venice,

    thank you for the links. Looking forward to reading them later this evening.

  141. Posted April 5, 2010 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    The challenge JM, at least as I see it, is this, here we our young men shooting and killing entirely innocent group of men. When one was attempting to save himself, our guys made sure he didn’t make it as well as the innocent Iraqi’s in the van. Here is my challenge. Do I show such a video w/o explanation or w/a distorted view or do I accept that this occurred by our men/women who truly believed, according to the audio, that they believed these individuals were danger to the mission.

    I nor you are privvy to the info the soldiers were given prior to when we started watching the video and listening to the commands. None of us can possibly understand these soldiers mindset. Based on my virgin view, yes, they overstepped, but I’ll bet you a dollar they wouldn’t think so. Why? B/c were not there. We haven’t an understanding of what it feels like to live in such an atmosphere again and again and again.

    Yes, our men and women must come home! One tour was mind bending. Two tours lead to mind numbing. Three or four tours leads to mind so distraught that I have nothing to compare it too. How these men and women are surviving is way beyond anything I can imagine. These good people will never be normal again…never! How could they. So, YES, THEY ALL NEED TO COME HOME AND WE NEED TO LEARN HOW TO MIND OUR DAMNED BUSINESS!!!

  142. Posted April 5, 2010 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    That is, WE AS A COUNTRY MUST LEARN HOW TO MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS!!! A great beginning is shutting down the criminal Federal Reserve and IRS. Now that’s a fight I understand and can become an active part of. Shut these bastards down once and for all and that will end America’s empire building. Follow the money as they say. Oh, and btw, if harm came to these rascals, well, I wouldn’t shed a tear. Not one. But I shed a tear for the innocent and the video…none of these people…American or Muslim deserve any of the hell these bastard bankers have wreaked upon our souls.

  143. venice
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    One thing to remember: While man has the greatest capacity for good deeds toward their fellowman, he/she is also the most dangerous of all animals.

  144. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    you don’t have to show the video. That isn’t why I posted it. It is viral right now on the Net and I think for good reason. I can’t help but wonder about the timing of this. I wonder if the troops aren’t “crying out” for all to hear and this kind of exposure they hope will help their plight. Otherwise, the illegal government continues to rotate them with no reprieve and certainly no guarantee of a better life after war.

    I think the thing that makes this one so important, is the cover up by higher ups and the outright lies that were told about the incident. The guys in the video have no control over that. Aren’t we all coming to grips with the lies and deceit?

    Having said that, I’m reminded of the pro football player’s death, Pat Tillman, that was also covered up because he threatened to expose the real reason for the war in Afghanistan. He died at the hands of his own men.

  145. Posted April 5, 2010 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    Well, framing it under such terms, then I am more than happy to post it. I just don’t want to add any burden to their already heavy load.

    Remember, American’s beat the hell out of our soldiers in Vietnam. I just want to avoid repeating “good intention” mistakes. I don’t want to contribute to making these young people being the bad guys when it is their commanders who friggin suck! And have no business being commanders!

  146. Posted April 5, 2010 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    love that venice. we are the most dangerous animal. understand, i support, just like all of you, our men and women abroad. i simply don’t want to tune into someone’s propaganda campaign to do damage to our folks. that’s all. i’m new to this balancing act. and everyone’s input is valuable and heard. thank you.

  147. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    of course. I don’t want to do any harm to them either. I’m not saying my theory is right – it’s just my theory. Right now all we’re doing is guessing about what the intent of the release of this video is about. If you have any reservations, better to leave it alone.

    Venice,
    as always, a beacon of light. Thank you.

  148. JustMe
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 10:58 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    Post Eustace Mullins videos and you’ll accomplish the same result than if you posted the Wikileaks video. Lots of other sites will have it up. His video exposes what drives war. That in my mind is key to bringing our troops home.

  149. Posted April 5, 2010 at 11:07 pm | Permalink

    I concur. Wholeheartedly.

  150. venice
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    Helen,

    Just so you know my post 10:32 does not refer to the men on the frontline. They are following orders. But for those who put this kind of machinery in place, well that’s another matter. The top takes responsibility for what happens at the bottom of a heirarchy.

  151. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    Venice, @8:02 a.m.

    good morning. I agree with you whole heartedly.

    I’d like to know what you think about this article. It really resonated with me.

    http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2010/03/08/a-superpower-and-the-worlds-sickest-warrior-state/print/

  152. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    RT covers the WikiLeaks video and why they released it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZNJm35V2_0

  153. Posted April 6, 2010 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Thankful RT framed the story.

    venice, the command is the appropropriate party who should take responsibility but I’ve seen these men throw their soldiers under the bus one too many times. It’s a myth that they take responsibility IMHO. That is the honorable and right thing to do, but I fear more and more that our men and women in uniform are on their own.

  154. Posted April 6, 2010 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Confirmed – “The Restore America Plan was actually given to the Guardians of the free Republics BY the military leadership as the legitimate, LAWFUL way to take back our country. The military leadership apparently states that the Army Provost Marshal will enforce the arrests IF the Governors opt not to either take a new oath OR resign.”

  155. Posted April 6, 2010 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    and this “The very first thing that changes is the “names” of the republics. The “state of New York” will now be “New York”. The state of Nebraska will now be Nebraska and so on.

    The sovereign IDs, I think are next. Let me find it in the document:

    You are further ordered to direct the aforesaid officials to modify, change or
    replace all signs, flags, emblems, placards, official stationary, business cards,
    highway signs and websites to remove all references to the office of “Governor of
    the State of __________” in favor of the respective de jure notation “Governor of
    _________” (e.g. “New York”) no later than thirty (30) days after receipt of this
    order.
    You are further ordered to direct the aforesaid officials to modify, change or
    replace all signs, placards, official stationary, business cards, highway signs and
    websites to replace all references to the “State of __________” with the respective
    de jure entity notation “__________” (e.g. “New York”) no later than three hundred
    and sixty five days (365) days after receipt of this Warrant;
    You are further ordered to direct the aforesaid office holders to replace the great
    seal of the state and the governor’s seal for the purpose of (i) replacing all
    references to the office of “Governor of the State of __________” with the
    respective de jure notation “Governor of _________” (e.g. “New York”); (ii) replace
    all references to the “State of __________” with the respective de jure notation
    1860, all such modifications to be completed no later than forty-five days (45) days
    after receipt of this order.”

  156. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    Venice,

    EXCELLENT read. I encourage others here to read it.

    http://www.thedailybell.com/936/Fear-Rises-as-Iran-War-Looms.html

    I read the Santelli article and was reminded by something Dr. Parker said a few weeks back about commodities. I need to refer back to my notes. As what happens with the content covered on his show, it seems like he’s coming from left field, but then later I see headlines/articles that fill in the blanks.

  157. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    Helen,

    the changing of signs, stationary, etc…could get quit costly. I remember reading the cost of the signage for the “shovel ready projects” and it was enormous.

    Can you tell me what the significance is of the BAR exam or the statement of “attorney at law” versus “of the law?”

    I believe the acronym BAR has something to do with British ???

    Do you know?

  158. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    Helen, et al

    one more question about RAP – it seems the governors turned the letters over to the authorities and didn’t take them seriously. What then?

  159. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    JustMe,
    from the text of the declaration the governors had 72 hours to resign peacefully, they actually have 14 days from reciept of the letter to retake the oath. Most, I’m sure will wait till the last minute.

  160. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    OMG – just skimming CW’s site – don’t ask me why cause I really don’t know. How many times did I post over there that the Federal Reserve Bank was a private consortium of banks? AT least once or twice a day. Did JS just wake up to the fact that it is? No wonder I was so frustrated on that site.

    She could really benefit from Eustace Mullins interview.

  161. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    Hi, Prairie

    I wondered where you were and how you were doing.

    Thank you for the info. I know we’re all anxiously awaiting any little bit of news on this front.

  162. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    would you post a comment on CW’s site for Kim?

    I saved a copy of the declaration to my hard drive and I will email it to her. Don’t use my name because you’ll go into moderation. Thanks.

  163. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    BTW, do patriots know the Tea Party Express is spearheaded and financed by Dick Armey’s foundation – it’s essentially a Republican operation that used the Tea Party movement to advance itself. WAKE UP FOLKS!

  164. Posted April 6, 2010 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    JM at 11 am – great question and here’s the answer – the original 13th amendment. It appears that the Bar Association serves as the American shell for the Queen of England who esquire’s are really pledging their oath too. Do these folks know that? I haven’t a clue. I do know they are sworn to secrecy. All of these symbols replaced the original symbols from the time the Constitution FOR the US was adopted till 1871 and beyond. here’s TONAs website and it is full of historical treasures http://amendment-13.org/

    It reads –

    “If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.”

    Esquire would be such a title. This amendment vanished when the new Articles were adopted in the late 1800s. I’ve been told that Rockefeller hired hundreds of individuals to fan out through the US to collect ALL original state law books so as to eliminate any and all question that the newly adopted Articles were supposedly the original. TONA, the group that has headed this unbelievable research up is itself a fascinating, very well educated and smart souvereign citizens themselves.

  165. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Looks like Alex’s site has a number of articles this morning on the Wikileaks video.

  166. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    JustMe,
    Gladly. It has been crazy lately, baseball season has officially began. 3 boys, 6 teams(they all do tournament teams as well as city ball). I have a deadline to meet by noon. I will check back in then. (I write for the local paper a couple articles a week, I always procrastinate till Tuesday morning.)

  167. Posted April 6, 2010 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    This is a great read – this gal has done some amazing research on 0′s roots. It’s a quick read and encourage all to read it http://www.thepatriotsflag.com/2010/02/j-a-morettis-obama-is-a-plant/

  168. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Helen,

    One of the shows I was listening to on Sunday mentioned the fact there was critical info missing from books like Black’s Law courtesy of revisionists. But, it can be found. I forget at this moment where it was.

    I was thinking it probably had something to do with The Queen.

    Will we ever get to the bottom of all of this?

    I noticed in your long post yesterday they mention Traficant. Now you know why they went after him. Because he was one of the few that had American’s best interest at heart. As did Cynthia McKinney. Look at some of her youtube videos on exposing what was really going on in this country while she was in DC.

  169. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    Prairie,

    thanks! I understand the hectic lifestyle with children and sports. Good for you, writing a column for the local paper. Hang in there!

  170. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Alex is talking about the Wikileaks video right now.

    http://www.infowars.com

  171. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    nevermind, I heard from Kim she received my email. You’re off the hook! LOL

  172. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Clearing my mind:

    JustMe, I believe there is still a lot of info and a lot to learn from CW’s. I post there because if I can open one pair of eyes or encourage one individual to challenge their set beliefs- then I have returned the favor that was done for me (thanks to you and Helen). Plus, I haven’t been banned yet like you two rebels. LOL.

    I believe, hope, that JS and others are waking up. The RAP and revalations about the corporation seems to have blurred the party lines, finally, the two headed snake is revealed. As evidence, I haven’t been getting blasted for speaking out against Bush or McCain- granted, I haven’t mentioned Palin or the word Zionist. Too soon for that.

    Helen,
    For what it’s worth, I support your decision not to post the video. Your compassion for the victims and U.S. soldiers left me speachless last night. To view such a horrible event and react with such insight as to the trauma inflicted on both leaves tears in my eyes now even.

    Finally, Rush and the MO tape. I understand the red flag is coming, but this set up does not rest right with me. O will be made out a hero as the “first black President”. To set him up as a fraud doesn’t fit. I believe one of these:

    1. Their is conflict among the elites regarding the usefulness of o.
    2. The media is trying to push patriots to rioting, martial law.
    3. The RAP or Patriot groups have them running scared and the media is going to try and save their own a$$e$.

  173. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    I do realize some are slower to awake than others. But, when one is so resistant, as was JS, to anything outside HER opinion, then ruthlessly lambasts others it gets old fast. I believe CW could have controlled that better than he did. But, that is his blog and he gets to say who stays and who goes. So be it.

    Your heart is in the right place for continuing to post there and it is admirable.

    Alex and others have mentioned their concern for the same thing you mention about “O” going down as the hero. Yes, the elite have been unhappy with him almost from the get go and have put him on a short leash. Yes, I believe, as you do, they’re trying their best to push us into conflict so as to inflict Martial Law.

    We just have to keep eyes and ears open and be prepared.

  174. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    U.S. Attorney or District Attorney Can Prosecute Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld for Murder on 9/11

    Former U.S. President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, and Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld can each be prosecuted for murder by a U.S. attorney, by a district attorney or by a non-U.S. state prosecutor whose citizens were killed at the World Trade Center or in any aspect of the false flag operation on September 11, 2001….

    snipped from:
    http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-Seattle-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2010m4d4-US-attorney-or-district-attorney-can-prosecute-Bush-Cheney-and-Rumsfeld-for-murder-on-911

  175. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    I too can’t figure out if those who “protest too much” are just stubborn or working toward a different agenda. I find it odd that you and Helen were banned and not JS who was starting fights with everyone. This is crazy, but, I have wondered if CW posts under this name. Could you imagine Helen never expressing and holding out an opinion on a hot matter- me either. And we love you for it Helen.

  176. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    Laying there since 2006- what, we’ll get around to it. “One source states, “In common law jurisdictions, prima facie denotes evidence which – unless rebutted – would be sufficient to prove a particular proposition or fact.” Aside from the obvious blackmail, could it be that we have no “common law courts” only Admirality Law?

  177. Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Prairie, JM and et al.,

    Watching that video last night with no frame of reference or context jolted me. This last week I’ve been jolted a lot. Trust me.

    Being an editorial board of one, means all decisions and consequences for said decisions I own alone. Being new to truth journalism I want to ensure The T-Room, when covering a story is doing it right. Meaning, I wish to avoid giving one side of the story. I’m always seeking both. This morning, after watching RT’s reporting on the video AND RT’s interview of the Editor for WikiLeaks explaining the how’s, what’s and why’s behind the release of this footage it became a news item that could fairly be told. Both of the RT videos are posted in the Cafe. It is equally as important to me to provide the background and reasoning for releasing said footage as it was to release it.

    Prairie, this is a powerful medium and I want to be doing this for a long, long, long time to come. I love it and I love learning from you and the rest of the really smart, loving and cautious posters we are fortunate to have here. Always trust that my goal is to bring forth news few others are willing to cover AND that I will do my best to make sure that when such topics are presented to me that I honor the request and then do the work I need to do to make it work for The T-Room.

    Lastly, let me make this abundantly clear – The T-Room takes the factually based position that Barry/Obama is not eligible to serve as POTUS under Article II of the US Constitution. He is unable to show further documentation b/c there isn’t any. We have followed this unfolding story since it was first planted at TexasDarlins website in the Spring of 2008. As well, nothing anyone produces in the way of a record on this day and beyond matters not. Nothing. The criminal fraud perpetrated on the American electorate ended on August 31, 2008 when the Chair of DNC Convention Pelosi and Secretary of the DNC Convention Germond, signed the Certification’s of Nomination directing all 50 states to place Barry/Obama next to the “D” line on the state’s general ballot. This is when the crime began and ended. Therefore, the only evidence any court can consider is the evidence presented up to August 31, 2008 verifying his eligibility.

    Finally, really, this is it, ask Alan Keyes why he will not release the C-SPAN tape of his and Obama’s senatorial debate in 2006. The republican’s and the democrat’s have played the good citizen long enough. Release the tape Keyes. We know you have it.

  178. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    Thank you for the honest response, I have had a crazy morning and did not refer to the cafe. I respect your decision because it was made thoughtfully and with compassion for the lives it affects. I will check out RT’s reporting of it.

  179. Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    oooh I forgot – Although the T-Room factually knows Barry/Obama is ineligible to serve as POTUS we wish NO HARM EVER to him, his wife nor his children. If something were to happen to them, I’d be the first one demanding an investigation and I’d know exactly who to target. They may think they got away with murder in the 60′s well we know better now.

  180. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    Jacqlyn Smith // April 6, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    Take this with a grain of salt…..being reported at….

    http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/

    I haven’t heard this from the mouth of a Guardian or state coordinator yet so I will be cautious…..this guy claims to have inside info…..

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Restore America Plan – Update 4/6/10 Inside Information

    Inside Information Update 4/6/10 – Restore America Plan

    The following comes from several ‘real’ intelligence resources, my research and insider sources.

    1. There is no shortage of funds for future recovery. Trusts have been established for every administration and these trust funds are available for proper disbursement.

    There are vast sums in very high trillions available for Social Security which will not be affected.

    2. The military has already informed obama that he is no longer Commander-in-Chief.
    3. The closed door emergency meeting of the Federal Reserve on Monday 4/5/10 did discuss the financial default and how to respond to the people’s declaration. They are in panic.
    4. There is a “Gag Order” on the governors and other officials who are served. If they say anything, they lose there option to sign on or resign. In short, they will be removed by the military.
    5. We are simply sovereigns. Beware of any article using “sovereign citizens”. This is propaganda by the PTB.
    6. FBI at high levels were informed about the plan before delivery.
    7. Fulford is aware of activities and a participant on worldwide recovery on an international level.
    8. There is an international participation in the program(s) which will become more evident in the next few weeks.
    9. Bonding will not be available for corporate entities. They will have to operate in the de jour government under the constitution.
    10. Corporate government and entities cannot access the C.A.F.R. funds without the bonds.
    11. All Bonds have been “arrested” by the republic and cannot be used by the corporate government and entities. The arrest of the bonds-from the U.S. Corporation down to the smallest country will cause a stoppage in all activities. They cannot conduct business as they are not ‘bondable’.
    12. Corporate Courts cannot conduct any business without bonds.

    Remember – If it looks like Nesara, acts like Nesara and functions like Nesara but spelled
    differently —- IT IS THE RESTORE PLAN

    Thank you all

    Thank YOU LORD

    GOD BLESS THE WORLD
    GOD BLESS THE GALAXIES
    GOD BLESS AMERICA AGAIN!
    ms. helga // April 6, 2010 at 1:39 pm

  181. Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Girls – you’ve busted me!!! Love sharing my opinion. I never thought JS might be CW. Now that’s interesting.

  182. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    I’m not cracking a beer yet, just thought I would bring it over.

  183. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    The Helga thing at the end is just evidence of my bad cut and paste.

  184. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    ahhh….Prairie, interesting point.

    I couldn’t believe it either when I read it – 2006. WTH?

  185. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Alex has been covering the Wikileaks’ video all morning.

    He’s brought up some excellent arguments in favor of the release of this video and also talking about the conditions these soldiers suffer at the hands of the gov’t.

    As hard as this is to come to terms with, I still maintain it is a must.

  186. Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    Ah geez, just when I finally got re focused kabam! I sware the brain is numb. LOL. btw, there is a video posted in the Cafe by a YouTuber who received an email from an insider, former navy guy, who read it out loud to his listeners.

  187. Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    I want to know when the bonds of our Congress will be arrested!

  188. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Okay,

    splain this a bit more. The financial situation was one are I was very concerned about. These funds that have been set up came from where? Any ideas, girls?

    Also, does it not concern you a wee bit that this is going on “underneath the surface” and it is supposedly THIS BIG? It could easily be a covert operation to the detriment and we wouldn’t know it, hell…I should say we didn’t know it. That’s where we’ve been. Does this make sense?

    It’s all still so ambiguous.

  189. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    The offshore bank accounts of the elites have supposedly been frozen by the RAP in cooperation with the respective foreign authorities.

    “Camoflauged among the prey. . .” From Orly to Beck, from paid Obots to SCOTUS, we have no idea who to put our trust in. There is no way to tell, the bad guys don’t wear black anymore. From listening to the audios, my gut tells me trust in the RAP.

  190. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    correcto-o-mundo, I agree with you about the media mix. I have expressed my opinions before on some parties.

    However, I did click on the link under the video Helen has posted in her Cafe. There is a 20 page pdf document that is very informative. Have you seen it? Maybe it’s been out there and I didn’t notice. Nonetheless check it out.

    http://www.takeyourlibertyback.com/Declaration.pdf

  191. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    Sure am glad I didn’t pack up the house and move to Costa Rica, yet. LOL

  192. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    Too funny.

  193. Posted April 6, 2010 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    I concur – these men strike me as solid people…but then again, my world has flipped upside down and inside out at least a thousand times since 2008. It’s amazing to me how I arrive at one place and think I can finally settle in and write something and then all hell breaks loose and we’re on another trail. I will say this though, this journey seems to be nearing an end. Not sure if it’s good or bad but I keep getting this sense that our 10 year nightmare may very well be ending…I pray.

  194. Posted April 6, 2010 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    you know, if this is realized, I think we girls need to pack our bathing suits and head to Costa Rica for some fun and play. dear god, i know i could use it!

  195. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    Here is a wild thought- what if the above JS post is accurate, what if the MO tape and Col. Lakin are the start up propoganda media spin for o’s resignation. A girl can dream. . .

  196. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Helen,
    I’ll pack all the hubby’s beer, just say the word.

  197. Posted April 6, 2010 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    OK – I will. We girls have been hard at work for several years now. If, and this is a BIG IF, there is truth to the RAP, then we hard working ladies need a rest so we can return fresh and ready to take our beloved America back.

  198. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    I can just see you now – driving Hubby’s truck down the road, complete with air freshener dangling from the rear view mirror, U-Haul trailer hooked up with his entire brewery in tow, and a “GIRLS GET IT – COSTA RICA OR BUST” sign on the tailgate. LOL

  199. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    You betcha! You forgot, my laundry hangin’ out the window dryin’- pulling up for Helen to jump in- her husband with his manicured yard and bushes shaking his head in disbelief.

  200. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    THE STRANGE LOVE AFFAIR OF THE U.S. AND AIPAC
    By Dan Lieberman

    This is a must read especially with the upcoming elections ahead of us.

    Imagine you are a representative of the highest government agencies. You encounter a group that places a foreign power above your own government’s interests and redirects and undermines your policies. Would you go to their convention, popularize them, obsequiously placate them and demonstrate you mean no harm to their sinister behavior?

    Sounds incomprehensible?

    United States State Department officials and congressional
    leaders have been doing the incomprehensible for years. U.S. State Department officials, senators and House representatives have regularly attended the American Israel Political Action Committee (AIPAC) conventions. Although the executive branch signaled a hardening of relations with Israel, its officials spoke to and listened to AIPAC during the week that inaugurated the spring of 2010…

    http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_5769.shtml

  201. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    ROFLMAO – I so have that image in my head.

  202. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    It’s a good image and an excellent goal to shoot for.

  203. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    It is raining and the wind is howling, so I’m gonna fire up the truck, unhitch the brewery, and get the young-ins from school

  204. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Okay, Prairie

    Give those boys a big hug!

    I need to do some things in the yard and house. be back later, girls…

  205. Posted April 6, 2010 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    I love that image too! You betcha, I’ll hop in that truck with you anytime! I want to leave the hub at home though. He’d never let me…love’s to scuba dive too much!

  206. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    Helen,

    bring him along. My hubby is a long time diver. He’s itching to go. We haven’t been diving since we lived in Hawaii. ugh!

    I am certified, too, but haven’t been at it as long as he has. I do love it, though. I’m just as content to hang out on the surface with friends.

  207. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    Okay,

    now, I need to do some serious stuff, like make the bed. LOL

  208. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    Hey,

    Republic Broadcast Network has a short article up on RAP. I’m reading the comments now.

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=7838

  209. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    WTH?

    Kristol: ‘Better’ for US to attack Iran than if Israel did

    The Obama administration should be seriously considering a strike on Iran, according to neoconservative Fox News contributor Bill Kristol.

    Yeah, and let’s not forget Bill is the one that “discovered” Caribou Barbie, aka Sarah Palin to run on the ticket with McCain. Sounds like Palin got her talking points from Bill.

    article here:
    http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=7786

  210. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    OH, HERE’S A BIG SURPRISE….

    OBAMA GIVES KEY AGRICULTURE POST TO MONSANTO MAN – Siddiqui is a pesticide lobbyist and Vice President for Science and Regulatory Affairs at CropLife America, an agribusiness lobbying group that represents Monsanto.

    Yeah, a pesticide lobbyist. That’s who I want in charge of my food source. This was a given especially knowing how hard Monsanto has worked to bastardize our food crops with their genetically modified seeds.

    If you aren’t familiar with GMO foods, there are a number of youtube videos with Jeffery Smith, who’s made it his life’s work to expose what is happening to our food supply. MONSANTO has managed to get patents on seeds and has steadily been working to alter agriculture at the genetic level.

    12 videos in the series. Here’s #1 of 12
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94d-KVorSHM

    A high number of farmers in India have committed suicide since being forced to plant GM cotton. Mexican farmers corn crops who have been seeded from heirloom seeds for centuries are now bastardized. It’s a sad case.

    article from Global Research.ca

  211. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    The answer to some questions of RAP:
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2487831/posts

  212. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    The game is war, wind up and here’s the pitch. . . . combine this with the Kristol statement-

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_RUSSIA_NUCLEAR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-04-06-17-51-23

  213. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    Interesting… Gates – say no more!

    I just read there’s U.S. nukes stowed away in Turkey – Wayne Madsen’s site I believe.

    I also just heard Mike Rivero talk about this so called nuck arms agreement with Russia. Seems it is loosely worded and doesn’t appear to be much different than the prior document. Just being fed more of the usual propaganda.

    Cooking dinner, so not listening very closely.

  214. venice
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    JustMe 9:44pm.

    I agree with the basic premise of this author and that is that the U.S. perhaps among other nations, lives, imbibes a culture of war, so much so that the motive for war is ultimately lost on the soldier, his commanding officer and ultimately his nation.

    But violence is only a word, the expression of which comes in many forms. And so yes, we live in a culture of war, because we have lost the neutralizing elements of our society against aggression. It begins with the core family, the extended family, the community, and ultimately the nation.

    Has the U.S. lost its soul? Well, some have but I don’t believe the majority. I do believe like the author of my last post stated, that America and the world at large will prevail. That doesn’t mean however that the interim won’t be unprecedented with the challenges that humanity will face.

  215. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    HEADS UP – Individuality is drilled out of you in the armed services

    If anyone is interested, Alan Watt is discussing the mindset and brainwashing of the military on these folks.

    Excellent

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/?page_id=3

  216. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    I predicted last night that tragedy of the coal mine would be propaganda for their ruin. MSNBC did a 10 second interview of a family followed by extensive coverage with pie charts, graphs, and other stats on the lobbying and safety hazards. Yes, I’m skeptical of everything anymore. I don’t live by coal mines, I don’t have first hand knowledge, I can only guess the dangers. Regardless, this is not the time for o to spin his talking points while families are grieving and men are still burried.

  217. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    Prairie,

    I wouldn’t refer to yourself as skeptical any longer. You are CLUED IN. INFORMED. That’s where you want to be. It’s refreshing. You aren’t “hooked” by headlines and the controlled media.

    Good for you!

  218. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    I would also like to say that Michael Piper – whom I listen to regularly is on right after Alan Watt on RBN – for those that are interested.

    8-9:00 Central

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/?page_id=3

    I’ve read a couple of his books. He also writes a column for American Free Press. Check him out.

  219. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    Passing this along. I received this via email – Gary Franchi “Restore The Republic” (dot.com) is a protege of Aaron Russo. He has issued a False Flag Terror Alert in the wake of the increase of the patriot movement.

    http://blip.tv/file/3450132

  220. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    They are all jumping ship! MUST READ.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2487906/posts

  221. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    HERE IT IS. THE REPORT:
    Talk show host Jeff Kuhner, on 570 WTNT, who two months ago said on his program that he thought that Obama was probably born in Hawaii, just said that Obama is a USURPER and an illegitimate president of the United States! This story breaking minutes ago!

    Kuhner characterized the Obama “presidency” as one of the biggest cons ever!

    Kuhner calls O’Reilly STUPID! “Murdoch and Fox in bed with the Saudis…birth certificate issue off limits because Saudi Arabia buying up access and influence in the United States!”

    link to FR above in my post.
    Leave a Comment

  222. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    The South has posted this seminar on your “strawman.” I intend to watch tomorrow.
    http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=citizenwells.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpicasaweb.google.com%2FRiddleMtnMan%2FTIMTURNERSEMINARAPRIL20098PARTS%3Ffeat%3Ddirectlink%23&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fcitizenwells.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F04%2F06%2Frod-blagojevich-trial-timeline-media-enables-blagojevich-innocence-rants-truth-about-blagojevich-rezko-levine-obama%2F%23comment-120168

  223. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    HEADS UP – Sounds like Mike Piper may have someone on his show that we may be interested in. He said it’s something we’ve been hearing a lot about recently.

    Hmmmm…wonder if it could be Sam Kennedy or someone involved with that movement. We shall see.

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/?page_id=3

  224. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, it isn’t Kennedy or anyone associated with him.

  225. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    I’m watching this, Prairie, but the sound quality is really bad. I can barely heard it with the volume turned all the way up. Are you having the same problem?

  226. Posted April 6, 2010 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    ******************NEW POST – GODDESS PELOSI ********************

  227. JustMe
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    HEADLINE ON DRUDGE: OBAMA MAN: Raise Taxes, Start European-Style Vat Tax

    This is Paul Volcker calling for this – Volcker is a Zionist Jew. Google it! Enough said. And, enough stealing of our money and shipping it to accounts in Israel and other Israeli banks in the Caymen Islands and Switzerland. Strange none of our bailout money went to any Muslim banks.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6355N520100406

  228. Prairie
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    JustMe,
    Haven’t tried it yet. Try this, that link got all funky on me.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/RiddleMtnMan/TIMTURNERSEMINARAPRIL20098PARTS?feat=directlink#

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